Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[johnnymoore]

lol son.

And what would Kawhi gain from that other than wasting two straight years of his prime and have teams around the league questioning just how valuable the guy really is?

I guess if he's really cool with the idea of losing a ton of money, he might be cool with that.

Well, he'd get $20 million dollars for sitting on his ass this year and a max contract from a team he wants to play for next year. The article someone posted earlier said that teams are more than willing to acquire the guy - they just don't want to pony up a ton until they talk to him and/or see him play. As a free agent, he'd work out for teams, show what he could do and get his money.

You can "son" me all you want, but it won't change the reality of the situation.

[DAF86]

Well, he'd get $20 million dollars for sitting on his ass this year and a max contract from a team he wants to play for next year.

The article someone posted earlier said that teams are more than willing to acquire the guy - they just don't want to pony up a ton until they talk to him and/or see him play. As a free agent, he'd work out for teams, show what he could do and get his money.

You can "son" me all you want, but it won't change the reality of the situation.

Will he though? I'm not sure teams would be crazy at the idea of maxing out a guy that comes off a two year absence.

Not to mention that by not playing next season he will already be guaranteed to lose over 80 millions dollar for the supermax he won't be able to get.

And all that with just playing along and saying that your crazy theory is plausible and that neither the Spurs nor the league will take matters into their own hands and inforce the law on Kawhi, tbh.

Look son, you can come up with all the crazy theories you want, but if there's one guy that will hurt from Kawhi not playing next season, is himself. So that won't happen, unless he trully is ed up for good, which is not out of the question yet.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. The National Media is out to screw the Spurs.

Back in the real world, Kawhi is in the best position. Soft tissue injuries are damned near impossible to diagnose, prove and/or disprove - that is why there are so many ambulance chasing lawyers. Worst case scenario, KL claims ankle pain, gets an arthroscope, sits out six weeks, gets the other ankle scoped, sits out six more weeks, then starts on the elbows.

This isn't the era for a team to try a power play on a prime athlete. If the Spurs want to keep him, they need to woo him and sweettalk him, not try to win a battle of wills.

You'd do better offering to let him approve every roster move or pick the next head coach. , offer him non-stop fellatio from every college cheerleader in the county. But fighting him and/or trying to force him to do your will is a no-win strategy.

Lol. He claimed he was 100.

Let him try that . He's going to be worth nothing by the time year 2 comes to an end. It will be among the most epic downfalls in NBA history. I actually hope he brings that. Cause the Spurs will already have broughten it.

Let's see him get homesteaded to the Spurs under the CBA basically for life when he tries pulling that nonsense. Then let's get discovery on the tampering that you Maginka et al did...should be good times and even better television.

Get yo popcorn.

[Twisted_Dawg]

This you brah?

http://www.bigsoccer.com/members/pinoymarauder.124255/
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/i-n...rmacy.1065264/

Thought I recognized that tone from somewhere. Pinoy from Canada? Like your profile here suggests? And Lakers Ground thinks you’re credible

Your work here rivals Koolaid Man's epic thread and discovery years ago taking down Avante and his ramblings on a different site about pedo urges.

[Slippy]

If theres any truth to Carters comments about kawhi not showing up if traded to a non preferred team . That in itself gives the spurs the upperhand. It illustrates how desperate his group is to avoid the free agency route. Spurs should assume it wont happen. The will also know by waiting for training camp or closer to the trade deadline, their leverage will only increase because Kawhi's team will be forced to re-assess their demands and leave the threats at the door.

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Ctrl + f for apalisoc_9. Click the name and it leads you to PinoyMarauder. Insider information my ass gets “leaks” on Leonard but can’t clean up his digital footprints

Damn. Done. Deal.

Baka gumawa na ng bagong account yan. Start over.

[johnnymoore]

Lol. He claimed he was 100.

Let him try that . He's going to be worth nothing by the time year 2 comes to an end. It will be among the most epic downfalls in NBA history. I actually hope he brings that. Cause the Spurs will already have broughten it.

Let's see him get homesteaded to the Spurs under the CBA basically for life when he tries pulling that nonsense. Then let's get discovery on the tampering that you Maginka et al did...should be good times and even better television.

Get yo popcorn.

I will! As a Lakerfan, I'll be greatly amused at the prospect of the "model franchise Spurs" going through a season-long storm. Watching the roster full of G-Leaguers and no-names bumble through the season in San Antonio while their franchise player frets and fumes in a suit on the sidelines will be hilarious. And then, watching the angst, mania & false bravado on this board next July when Kawhi walks for nothing and joins LeBron will be absolutely delicious!


Of course, that's assuming PATFO have completely lost their minds. Otherwise, Kawhi will be gone before training camp ends and San Antonio will have some nice new picks and a decent young player.

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I will! As a Lakerfan, I'll be greatly amused at the prospect of the "model franchise Spurs" going through a season-long storm. Watching the roster full of G-Leaguers and no-names bumble through the season in San Antonio while their franchise player frets and fumes in a suit on the sidelines will be hilarious. And then, watching the angst, mania & false bravado on this board next July when Kawhi walks for nothing and joins LeBron will be absolutely delicious!


Of course, that's assuming PATFO have completely lost their minds. Otherwise, Kawhi will be gone before training camp ends and San Antonio will have some nice new picks and a decent young player.

How is it false bravado?

Everyone here knows we're (already) only likely getting pennies on the dollar for Kawhi's value. So getting no return at all is not substantively worse, especially when a lesson is sent to unscrupulous actors about the manner in which they dogged the team and attempted to power play their way out.

Assuming this even plays out and he is not traded before the season, if he starts creating a toxic environment again next year, he'll be sent home and told he's not part of their future plans...sort of the way you guys handled Deng.

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How is it false bravado?

Everyone here knows we're (already) only likely getting pennies on the dollar for Kawhi's value. So getting no return at all is not substantively worse, especially when a lesson is sent to unscrupulous actors about the manner in which they dogged the team and attempted to power play their way out.

Assuming this even plays out and is not traded before the season, if he starts creating a toxic environment, he'll be sent home and told he's not part of their future plans...sort of the way you guys handled Deng.

A lesson is also sent to the league that small market teams are already disadvantaged enough without d-bag players and agents not even fulfilling contracts they’ve signed. The whole system is broken. How can a team plan for the future, acquiring players, building teams for a planned future that’s built on sand. The more stink this creates the more likely owners will address the issue in the next CBA.

[FireMicoHalili]

I will! As a Lakerfan, I'll be greatly amused at the prospect of the "model franchise Spurs" going through a season-long storm. Watching the roster full of G-Leaguers and no-names bumble through the season in San Antonio while their franchise player frets and fumes in a suit on the sidelines will be hilarious. And then, watching the angst, mania & false bravado on this board next July when Kawhi walks for nothing and joins LeBron will be absolutely delicious!


Of course, that's assuming PATFO have completely lost their minds. Otherwise, Kawhi will be gone before training camp ends and San Antonio will have some nice new picks and a decent young player.

The Spurs have annually gone through a roster of G-Leaguers in hopes of trying to find value. The fan base has had to “endure” guys like Mensah-Bonsu, Chris Quinn, Melvin Saunders, so on and so forth. The fan base has hated the penny-pinching, but it’s all part of the charm. I see the Lakers have had some success with late draft picks which is a good sign, since another year of futility would have meant the Lakers brass has learned nothing these past few years.

I agree, it will all be amusing to see the dynasty (or whatever remains of it) come crashing down. Most of the fans here may have been spoiled with championships and constant playoff appearances that it’s imminent the Spurs are due for a downfall. The NBA hoi polloi - perhaps, save the Spurs themselves - have long anticipated and awaited the fall of San Antonio. Everyone thought they were done in 2005, then in 2007, then 2014. I understand it’s tedious to hate the Spurs year after year, more so they made the Lakers look bad in 2013 given the talented core the Lakers had. Long overdue serving of humble pie, and it will be good not only for the fan base but for the front office as well, to serve as a lesson in adjustment. Good things never last, only that the Lakers’ run of dominance ended much sooner.

It must be difficult living in irrelevance even with all that money, those high draft picks, and the wasted free agent pitches that have worked, for the most part, in the early 00’s. The Lakers snagged LeBron, one of the greatest players in this era, plus a mixed bag of acquisitions which may or may not pan out, but the total result will be better than any other result the Lakers have had in the past years. You probably have personal reasons for hating the Spurs, but the fact remains: Leonard isn’t a Laker yet. One week of all that frenzy and wasted emotional investment just to have no star with which to pair LeBron. Impatient lot, as your kind has always been. The schadenfreude is forthcoming and the Spurs might actually lose a lot in terms of value, but there are fans who will roll with the team with or without Leonard. In the first place, the front office didn’t give up a lot for this guy. Whatever comes out of a Leonard trade will be a return of investment on freaking George Hill. Save for Jean-Charles the Spurs have managed to eke out value in tight situations. This team will be fine, and if it doesn’t, there wasn’t much to work with in the first place anyway. Not a lot of fans experience a run of dominance this long, see marquee players who take a pay cut flourish and retire, and a scouting program that manages to find value at the dregs of the draft.

Equally as comical by the way: why are the Lakers so high on their younger players but keep insisting on a trade for Leonard? I thought there was a lot of trust in Ingram and/or Kuzma or whoever the your lot keeps throwing in for Kawhi? If they’re so good maybe the Lakers should just keep them and move on toward the season with that core. Everyone wins.

[Keepin' it real]

He traded yet?

[JPB]

Sometimes you gotta show compassion for your foes. Seeing that Johnny Moore kid get humiliated like that is kinda painful.

And you can see the way Fakers fans all are coming out of their long time shame hole this summer how they're envious and admirative of the Spurs. What kind of frustrated fan is obsessed like that by another team ? "

But I can understand Fakers fans meltdown, they were already ing all over themselves and were ordering PG13 and Kawhi jerseys and all they got is LeRetreat and Javalance. They were preparing the parade and might end up not even make the PO in a loaded West

"Kawhi has all the power mawahah, you fools ! He can waste another year of his prime after saying he was 100% and GMs already wary about his current situation then finish to kill his rep and sign with my Fakers for nothing, hehe !!"

That clown might have been banned even from Fakers forums with terrible takes like that.

[AFBlue]

He traded yet?

I heard it's a done deal.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Sometimes you gotta show compassion for your foes. Seeing that Johnny Moore kid get humiliated like that is kinda painful.

And you can see the way Fakers fans all are coming out of their long time shame hole this summer how they're envious and admirative of the Spurs. What kind of frustrated fan is obsessed like that by another team ? "

But I can understand Fakers fans meltdown, they were already ing all over themselves and were ordering PG13 and Kawhi jerseys and all they got is LeRetreat and Javalance. They were preparing the parade and might end up not even make the PO in a loaded West

"Kawhi has all the power mawahah, you fools ! He can waste another year of his prime after saying he was 100% and GMs already wary about his current situation then finish to kill his rep and sign with my Fakers for nothing, hehe !!"

That clown might have been banned even from Fakers forums with terrible takes like that.

Dude is clearly a young poster eager to type anything that pops up in his mind but doesn't know his arse from his elbow. There have been many like that before him. No need to argue with these types.

[johnnymoore]

Equally as comical by the way: why are the Lakers so high on their younger players but keep insisting on a trade for Leonard? I thought there was a lot of trust in Ingram and/or Kuzma or whoever the your lot keeps throwing in for Kawhi? If they’re so good maybe the Lakers should just keep them and move on toward the season with that core. Everyone wins.

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:



Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

[Spurs9]

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:



Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

So Magic offering Zubac + Deng for Kawhi?

[jermaine]

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:



Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

I'd be offended if I was the Spurs or Kawhi if BI was untouchable!!!! I'd hang up the phone in their face an black all known numbers associated with them.

[johnnymoore]

So Magic offering Zubac + Deng for Kawhi?

Plus picks!

In reality, probably Kuzma & Hart, but Lakers fans don't want to give up Hart.

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Plus picks!

In reality, probably Kuzma & Hart, but Lakers fans don't want to give up Hart.

Then don't that you guys cant have Kawhitter. Just come to peace with the fact you'll get him in the 2019-2020 season and that you will have wasted another year of LeBron in his prime. Just remember how quickly it all unraveled for Kobe. You guys can start your superteam with him when he's 35 though.

And then try to figure out all those contracts. You think Ball, Kuz, Ingram, and Hart aren't going to want to get paid too? All the while, you'll have Kawhi and an aging Lebron on max deals.

Good luck with your surplus in Wonderland.

[FireMicoHalili]

This is the rub. Apparently, Ingram was not (and will not be) offered - and Laker hater Doris Burke agrees with that:



Highly doubtful that Ball was offered, as well.

So the point is the Lakers should just keep the pieces of their trade package. I don’t know why anyone has to get riled up with the Spurs not trading Leonard to the Lakers if the Lakers get to keep decent players. I can understand the frustration with some posters/poseurs/marauders here but it doesn’t make sense to let go of Leonard for players who barely move the needle. You’ve had all three of Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart last year and got nowhere. Kawhi at his best gave San Antonio a championship. Have to understand despite this whole saga the Spurs’ front office has more or less delivered the past few years so there is some sort of hope, if not optimism, among some Spurs fans there are better deals out there. Probably save your laughing for the trade deadline or if they somehow end up with a Paul George-like trade. You should see the trades your lot has been proposing: Deng, Hart, and Kuzma, really? You’re offloading garbage and mediocre players for the best player on the squad and who will probably sign with the Lakers in the future. It just doesn’t make sense for the Lakers too, and my siblings (both Lakers fans) agree.

Like I said before, no one cares about Lonzo. Great instincts, great size, great rebounding, but horrible ass shooting form. I’m sure the PATFO might like him since Engelland can make something out of him (might take years) but highly probably none of us here want him and his baggage (read: family). The Spurs have had enough problems with players’ family members. Not sure about the news you consume but I haven’t read him brought up in any negotiations, and with good reason.

Let’s not forget the fact the Lakers are a big market team that has failed to put something together despite its spending capacity and its corresponding lifestyle, arguably points of attraction to free agents. To whom much is given, much is expected. The Spurs might turn out to be this season’s punch line, but the rest of the league has been laughing at the Lakers and the Knicks for years now.

[Dverde]

Regarding the Lakers, I don’t see how having your three best players playing the same position is a successful formula. LBJ, Kawhi, Ingram. LBJ would have to move to the four. Not sure if he would do that permanently.

[szkorhetz]

Regarding the Lakers, I don’t see how having your three best players playing the same position is a successful formula. LBJ, Kawhi, Ingram. LBJ would have to move to the four. Not sure if he would do that permanently.

He is playing point forward. There is no such thing as sf or pf anymore. the Kawhi-Ingram-LBJ would be really similar to the Thompson-Durant-Green core which is pretty succesful.

[FireMicoHalili]

He is playing point forward. There is no such thing as sf or pf anymore. the Kawhi-Ingram-LBJ would be really similar to the Thompson-Durant-Green core which is pretty succesful.

LeBron will play point if he has to, but has indicated he wants to play off-ball. If they get Leonard they’ll probably slot Ingram at the two (or Leonard) and trot out Rondo-Ingram-Leonard-James-McGee/some ring-chasing vet like Monroe. Scary on paper and the length is formidable.

[jjktkk]

apalisoc_9



Hope everything has turned around for you little fella

[FireMicoHalili]

Damn. Done. Deal.

Baka gumawa na ng bagong account yan. Start over.

He’s probably making a new account and that’s the beauty of this entire mess. If he’s good at one thing it’s panggagago, pero wag sya manggago ng mas gago sa kanya.