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    the gay deal isn't being heavily criticized. he's on a 1 year deal and as you said, we didnt have the cap room to sign other players. green opting in was out of our control, but again, that's only a 1 year thing in an offseason where we didnt have cap room

    i'd rather have signed bertans for 1/10 than 2/14.5. because next season our cap space is actually going to matter. 4/20 was a fine deal. the new one is . we overpay a guy for 2 years and then he can just walk.

    this is why, as you said, people dont like the marco deal. he eats into our cap next season when it matters.

    the forbes signing is more about roster redundancy than anything. he's a below average player who mimics the role of patty mills but does it much much worse. based on the role he was undeservedly granted last year, there are legit concerns he is going to take minutes from guys who otherwise would need them like white
    Under the hypothetical that Bertans and Marco have player options the 2nd year and IF THEY OPT IN, they will still be very trade-able if a better opportunity presents itself next summer for SA in Free Agency. They are not Patty or Pau type deals that are hard to move because of how they are only 6 mil and 7 mil.

    Now if they were 3 year deals then yeah, I completely understand the gripe because at that point they wouldn't be able to be moved as easily.

    Spurs are trying to trade Mills, and Paul is about to get let go. Forbes is cheap depth that provides 40% shooting from 3 and still has room to grow as long as he's not asked to defend SFs and big SGs like he was most of last season.
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    Under the hypothetical that Bertans and Marco have player options the 2nd year and IF THEY OPT IN, they will still be very trade-able if a better opportunity presents itself next summer for SA in Free Agency. They are not Patty or Pau type deals that are hard to move because of how they are only 6 mil and 7 mil.

    Now if they were 3 year deals then yeah, I completely understand the gripe because at that point they wouldn't be able to be moved as easily.

    Spurs are trying to trade Mills, and Paul is about to get let go. Forbes is cheap depth that provides 40% shooting from 3 and still has room to grow as long as he's not asked to defend SFs and big SGs like he was most of last season.
    Even Pau's deal would be easy to move since it's non-guaranteed next year. It looks a lot better this season than it did last year.

    The real head scratcher was, and still is, the Mills deal...but that dead horse has already been beaten.

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    The custody battle is ugly. They were never married so the Mom didn’t have any child support for them and Forbes grabbed them from Michigan and took them with him to SA without her consent. It sounds painful however you put it.

    He also said in one interview I remember that he hit a wall last season. He had never played that many minutes in so many important games. It was really draining. Anyways I don’t really expect any improvements if Pop keeps playing him in overmatched lineups but perhaps he can be a more consistent scorer.
    No one ever wants to lose their kids, but if that mom really thinks those kids are better off living with her in Michigan on child support than they would be living with their millionaire father and nanny, she's batty.

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    Even Pau's deal would be easy to move since it's non-guaranteed next year. It looks a lot better this season than it did last year.

    The real head scratcher was, and still is, the Mills deal...but that dead horse has already been beaten.
    That dead horse deserves all the beatings it can get lol. That was the worst deal in the Pop era given the context of the back court situation ( 2 straight 1st round picks on DeJounte and Derrick and also having Forbes as a Neal/Patty guy -- Spurs had all 3 making next to nothing on the roster deserving of more minutes). Why pile on a Patty 4/50 deal on top of those 3 guys? Was bad and expendable the day it was signed.

    Wish Spurs took my advice and traded Mills in summer of 16' after they drafted DeJounte. They could have moved him for a late 1st or 2nd rounder.

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    I keep seeing that Forbes and Beli have a 1+1, is that confirmed anywhere?

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    No one ever wants to lose their kids, but if that mom really thinks those kids are better off living with her in Michigan on child support than they would be living with their millionaire father and nanny, she's batty.
    Not wanting to get into this all that much. I don’t know them but she is the kids mother. The dad travels a lot and she’s got a right to want the kids to live with her. A nanny will never replace a mothers love. Again, I don’t know them. This thing might get ugly. If it isn’t already.

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    Not wanting to get into this all that much. I don’t know them but she is the kids mother. The dad travels a lot and she’s got a right to want the kids to live with her. A nanny will never replace a mothers love. Again, I don’t know them. This thing might get ugly. If it isn’t already.
    That's a fair point, but by all signs, Forbes seems to be a pretty caring and loving father as well. He doesn't deserve to lose custody of his kids either just because he travels a lot, and he obviously has the financial means to care for the kids better.

    Obviously, it's impossible to know all the ins-and-outs of such a complicated issue by one article, so I guess I shouldn't really pick sides. Either way, I just hope it gets resolved so Bryn can focus on his game and his career.

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    Only way to get custody is prove she is crazy, doing drugs, or other criminal activity around her child. Other then that she gets custody and a nice big child support check

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    That's a fair point, but by all signs, Forbes seems to be a pretty caring and loving father as well. He doesn't deserve to lose custody of his kids either just because he travels a lot, and he obviously has the financial means to care for the kids better.

    Obviously, it's impossible to know all the ins-and-outs of such a complicated issue by one article, so I guess I shouldn't really pick sides. Either way, I just hope it gets resolved so Bryn can focus on his game and his career.
    It gets ugly. Both might be deserving parents. The fact he took them without asking her consent knowing she’s a woman of modest means is like a fait accompli. Anyways not the forum to get into that.

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    He should pop the champagne that the Spurs gave him a 2 year deal. Kind of expect him to play better if put in the right situations.

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    He should pop the champagne that the Spurs gave him a 2 year deal. Kind of expect him to play better if put in the right situations.

    Generously stated. there are so few of them for him.

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    I wonder if another NBA would have signed him if not for the Spurs.

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    I always love July cliff jumpers who think the roster is set.

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    I wonder if another NBA would have signed him if not for the Spurs.
    100%..I hate everything about Forbes, but he does have a useful NBA skill..

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    100%..I hate everything about Forbes, but he does have a useful NBA skill..
    culture

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    have the terms/money come out for this one?

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    Not wanting to get into this all that much. I don’t know them but she is the kids mother. The dad travels a lot and she’s got a right to want the kids to live with her. A nanny will never replace a mothers love. Again, I don’t know them. This thing might get ugly. If it isn’t already.
    Traveling alot is defintely an appropriate consideration in a custody determination. So long as the mother is a fit and proper parent and keeps a roof over the kid, puts clothes on their backs, feeds them, etc, she has the upperhand.

    The fact the father is rich compared to the mother should not be considered under virtually ever states laws.

    He should just work out a joint custody arrangement and have them in the offseason. Agree to pay child support at a reduced basis and share custody. No need for a battle if both parents are fit and proper.

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    It gets ugly. Both might be deserving parents. The fact he took them without asking her consent knowing she’s a woman of modest means is like a fait accompli. Anyways not the forum to get into that.
    The judges i practice in front of would a brick if a parent took children without permission of the mother across state lines and then not return them. Thats pretty much kidnapping. Most would restrict his visitation. Thats a stupid move. If you do that you better have a emergency situation like the moms smoking crack and selling her body, molesting the children, etc.

    I have represented clients who were able to suspend visitation based on the fathers threats that he was going to run off with the child to alaska
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    I was very high on Forbes prior to the start of last season. I was kinda expecting him to become Patty's eventual replacement. But he never showed up. Even after lowering my expectations throughout the season, he still managed to disappoint. I sure hope he manages to prove us wrong and actually step up when he gets minutes, which he'll probably get a lot of since Pop seems to like him. Though tbh, I'd much rather see White/Walker play over him.

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    The judges i practice in front of would a brick if a parent took children without permission of the mother across state lines and then not return them. Thats pretty much kidnapping. Most would restrict his visitation. Thats a stupid move. If you do that you better have a emergency situation like the moms smoking crack and selling her body, molesting the children, etc.

    I have represented clients who were able to suspend visitation based on the fathers threats that he was going to run off with the child to alaska
    Bailiffs can represent prisoners in san antonio?

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    I dont live in san antonio. Not a bailiff either. You are not smart it seems. Domestic relations court is where custody battles take place. Criminal court is for prisoners.

    Your joke might make sense if you had a basic understanding of the judicial system.

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    So many bad takes here. It must be all the Whataburger and piss water beer you people down while watching these games preventing you from forming acute observations.

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    I dont live in san antonio. Not a bailiff either. You are not smart it seems. Domestic relations court is where custody battles take place. Criminal court is for prisoners.

    Your joke might make sense if you had a basic understanding of the judicial system.
    Bailiffs deal with the strange and unexpected every day. "The domestic relations division definitely exposed me to some ironies of life," says Tim Mooney, a bailiff in the domestic relations division of the Cuyahoga County courts in Ohio. "Some are unusual and offbeat.

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    He's not particularly good at anything. IOW, he's a perfect fit.

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    Bailiffs deal with the strange and unexpected every day. "The domestic relations division definitely exposed me to some ironies of life," says Tim Mooney, a bailiff in the domestic relations division of the Cuyahoga County courts in Ohio. "Some are unusual and offbeat.
    That quote from a bailiff doesnt save your ignorance. Quit being like apo.

    My post was talking about my representation of clients in custody battles. Your response was "bailiffs can represent prisoners in san antonio.?"

    I didnt say that a bailiff can not be present in a d.r. court.

    It is really simple but let me explain it to you like you are 5 years old so it can sink in, troll.There called plaintiffs and defendants in domestic relations court. Not prisoners. Prisoners are those people who commit crimes and that runs through criminal proceedings.

    Can a prisoner be in a custody battle? Of course, but its not going to me much of a battle. Judges typically dont grant custody to someone if they are currently in prison.

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