Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

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So insist on a Tatum like return but then trade Leonard anyways when one doesn't get offered? That makes no sense.

[FireMicoHalili]

Despite a few shots at Laker nation this is a mostly fair, nuanced and strong post.
I agree we should keep our young core.
Ingram I am absolutely sure that if we are patient, will develop in to what we need as #2. I am not sure he can ever be a #1 like KL but that is the beauty of getting LeBron and not a #2 like PG13 and paying him like a true superstar. We don't need a #1 we have the best #1 already.
But this requires patience from LeBron, Maginka and smart fans to allow him to develop. The less validation we have that KL is 100% the less I want us to push in all the chips. Ingram
+ Kuzma is a non-starter for me. And I pretty much now almost feel Ingram is untouchable. Still would consider Kuzma/Hart and a first. But the more I see of how much Hart/Kuzma is working to improve not sure I would do that either.

I get that as a Spur fan yall undervalue our prospects, hate Lakers and don't want to acquiesce to KL's camp. So yall seem like you would take less from Sixes to avoid trading him to us. Silly to me but I understand.

What I don't get is the keep him and let him walk stance. I do agree yall should try and determine if relationship is salvageable and If you think he is 100% pay him the supermax.

But you can not and should not let him walk for nothing... That is the dumbest take. Even getting another expiring contract(s) that you might want to see if they work with the Spurs system is smarter than letting him walk for NADA. Picks and expirings are better than just cap space if he walks next year.
The reason I even still care because outside of LeBron this is the only other move that matters. CP3, PG13, Boogie, even drafting Ayton, Bagley none of that really matters as much as KL.
I am hoping yall don't trade him to Philly (dont dislike Sixes but if Embiid stays healthy which again I have my doubts like with Porzingis) and form a super team but hate yall trading him to Celts even more. Send him anywhere else or resign him and hope time heals all the negative vibes and his quad. But I think honestly that will be tough.

Can’t speak for the rest of the fan base but a trade is imminent not because I want one but the discord runs deep and it’s going to take a miracle of 0.4 proportions to fix the situation. I agree, it’s stupid to let him go for nothing and have this drag on to the season where he’ll have to play a minimum number of games and feign injury. Going to be so messy if they have to have this mediated/arbitrated and legal fees are probably going to be expensive. What I do agree with is the Spurs don’t have to rush and give in to the manufactured pressure in which they’re surrounded. The thing with offers is they get pulled off the table and you won’t get one you were previously offered; run out the clock and the Spurs might just get Deng and fillers without picks. It’s way too early for the Spurs to give in to the pressure of making a deal for purposes of getting any kind of value back and just because they haven’t struck a deal with potential trade partners doesn’t mean the front office isn’t working to get one done. It’s a safe assumption PATFO are doing their due diligence given a trade monumentally changes the course of the team’s future. All teams are playing hardball because no one wants to be like Memphis who despite getting great value in Marc (weird how he slipped to 48) didn’t get much of a return for Pau, while simultaneously handing over the championship.

Both teams should just maintain the status quo at the moment. Keep the young core while the Spurs figure out all the possible trade scenarios. The Lakers are flush with cash next year and they don’t need any more players with toxic filial influences. If Leonard can do this to San Antonio it should serve as a warning as to the trouble any team would probably be dealing with a few years down the road with him and his uncle.

[kjhip1]

Is he currently signed?

No, free agent, my bad thought he was still a bengal... can’t see this helping him though

[FireMicoHalili]

Yep

Unlike us Pinoys he’s well-connected with the Spurs and Uncle Dennis. Every Filipino Spur fan’s dream, aside from finishing college and being an ESPN Insider.

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Last week Wright was saying that the meeting was players' idea not Pop's...He also said that Parker's comments were positive but people "misunderstood" them

This is his way to explain why the players wanted the meeting...I'm not that naive to believe "on a Pop's team" players can ask for a meeting without talking with him.

And so ing what whether or not the players or Pop called it. Doesn't matter.

The underlying issue is what is the heart of this whole thing. They had a dodgy star player on their hands that was not communicating with them, at all really. They wanted and needed him on the court with them. But seeing as he had his own rehab routine, he was not seen much. So they couldn't ask him at the same time without calling a team meeting, and they finally did so after the 3rd or 4th time he let them know he was going to return.

At some point, the questions are going to be asked.

Where are you?
When are you coming back?

Btw, the mere fact that he was telling people he was coming back ought to tell you he was at least near healthy the entire season, even by his own inadvertent idiocy. This was a ruse.

Have I said Kawhi yet today? Kawhi.

[FireMicoHalili]

No one is expecting the world. Equal value would be getting Simmons from Philly, Davis from New Orleans, something like that. No one is expecting anything close to equal value. I'm saying I don't see the point in taking a grab bag of a lot of limited players who won't be anything to build around. I just want one prospect who has a chance of being somebody. If I'm the Spurs GM and I don't get that then who cares if Leonard walks for nothing? Either way the Spurs are in the same situation, lottery bound with no one to build around. Ingram, Saric, same thing, limited player who could be a nice #3 in the best case.

Deng, Kuzma, Hart and picks. Jesus. They offer garbage then get mad their offer gets ignored. It’s nice they want the Spurs to get some return but there are 28 other teams.

[YGWHI]

And so ing what whether or not the players or Pop called it. Doesn't matter.

It matters to Mike Wright since he spent many days on podcasts/interviews trying to deny Pop was involved.

I guess it matters the Spurs too since they're leaking to him these things. Who knows. Every side wants to build its own narrative.

[BatManu20]

2 years to the day...

[Seventyniner]

2 years to the day...

It still hurts

[YGWHI]

2 years to the day...

Like the Bulls were MJ, not Phil...This franchise was just Tim, not about Pop.

Miss Tim so much, we were nothing before him and we're nothing without him now.

[DPG21920]

Spurs cannot, without getting MULTIPLE picks with good shots at being in the lottery take a package for Kawhi that doesn’t include an all star level player or a young player with still perceived all star upside.

They just can’t do it. I truly believe what SA wants is win now players more than guys like Ingram or Fultz but if that’s the case you have to get multiple picks.

This thing with PHI where they are saying no Fultz AND only one pick? No. You either give up Fultz and one pick or keep Fultz and send 3 picks.

[DPG21920]

Like the Bulls were MJ, not Phil...This franchise was just Tim, not about Pop.

Miss Tim so much, we were nothing before him and we're nothing without him now.

SA made the WCF without Tim.

[SAGirl]

2 years to the day...

Was thinking about this today and I have all this summer. So many fans have taken this summer’s events lightly.

Timmy retiring was very sad for me. I knew in my heart after that game he was done. My only reprieve was that the Spurs themselves weren't done bc Kawhi was going to be the leader of this team. What has been going on with Kawhi has taken me back to that day that summer that Tim retired and It’s made me really sad at times.

[BatManu20]

[Namundy]

Can we hurry up and trade this er so I can stop constantly checking Twitter and Reddit?

[spurs10]

Spurs cannot, without getting MULTIPLE picks with good shots at being in the lottery take a package for Kawhi that doesn’t include an all star level player or a young player with still perceived all star upside.

They just can’t do it. I truly believe what SA wants is win now players more than guys like Ingram or Fultz but if that’s the case you have to get multiple picks.

This thing with PHI where they are saying no Fultz AND only one pick? No. You either give up Fultz and one pick or keep Fultz and send 3 picks.

This has been my feeling from the start, so I was happy to see RC speaking like he was in no hurry to trade Kawhi. Likely precisely because role players won't get the job done and that's all we'll get in a trade. If Philly isn't willing to trade Fultz then why not say 'thanks but no thanks.'

[spurs10]

Woot! Our second best player!

[Robz4000]

Woot! Our second best player!

[TimDunkem]

Woot! Our second best player!

We are officially the San Antonio Kings.

[MoSpur02]

The talks with Boston seem to have fallen apart. Seems like the Spurs will look elsewhere.

[DPG21920]

We are officially the San Antonio Kings.

Kings made the playoffs last year?

[MoSpur02]

Unfortunately I think the Spurs might be dealing with Toronto. Not sure if it's Lowry or DeRozan. I'm not happy with either one, but DeRozan makes more sense.

[Dverde]

Unfortunately I think the Spurs might be dealing with Toronto. Not sure if it's Lowry or DeRozan. I'm not happy with either one, but DeRozan makes more sense.

I can’t be in a world where the Spurs are paying Lowry 60+ million for two years.

[spurs10]

Not getting Gay back was worse.

[NASpurs]

Unfortunately I think the Spurs might be dealing with Toronto. Not sure if it's Lowry or DeRozan. I'm not happy with either one, but DeRozan makes more sense.

ing gross