Trash attacking NATO (kneeling to Pootin's strategy)

[hater]

what happened bro ? you finally saw the light ? that's exactly what I was saying.. smh



It has enslaved England and small eastern european countries... It did not enslave France and in a less extent Germany.. France produces, develops and maintains his arsenal independently of NATO / US.. De Gaulle wanted it that way, it has cost a lot to France but that was the goal.. France is the only country outside US and Russia who has developped independently his nuclear arsenal..



Trash is a clown who weaken his "allies" and strenghten his "enemies", all that is made not thinking of US interests but thinking to reinforce his electoral base and prepare reelection

I believe the traditional alliance US/Europe should be reinforced and not the contrary

Yes and Trump is saying that too. That current state of NATO is obsolete. So you actually agree with Trump

France is a slave because it is and will do Trumps bidding. This is because at the moment France defense by itself is weak and it would fold like a lawn chair like it did in 1937.

You are contradicting yourself at the end because you say Europe is in no danger from the East yet want to enforc traditional NATO. What the does that mean? Enforce traditional NATO give some details on that

So in the end we are in agreement with Trump that Europe is in no imminent danger. And that Euro countries need to step up their own spending on defense so they are less depndent on US

This is good for all. Good for Eurpe because they will be able to fend for themselves and stop being US puppets and go to wars on their bidding. Good for US because less money will be spent and lots of money will come in to US military complex. And good for the world as there will be lot more balance all around.

[Brazil]

Yes and Trump is saying that too. That current state of NATO is obsolete. So you actually agree with Trump

France is a slave because it is and will do Trumps bidding. This is because at the moment France defense by itself is weak and it would fold like a lawn chair like it did in 1937.

You are contradicting yourself at the end because you say Europe is in no danger from the East yet want to enforc traditional NATO. What the does that mean? Enforce traditional NATO give some details on that

So in the end we are in agreement with Trump that Europe is in no imminent danger. And that Euro countries need to step up their own spending on defense so they are less depndent on US

This is good for all. Good for Eurpe because they will be able to fend for themselves and stop being US puppets and go to wars on their bidding. Good for US because less money will be spent and lots of money will come in to US military complex. And good for the world as there will be lot more balance all around.

Based on what are you saying France defense is weak ? France defense pilar is nuclear dissuasion, France has a dozen of nuclear submarines that are perfectly capable to bring nuclear threat anywhere in the world, French traditional forces are more than enough to deal with the rest of the threats. You are the one contradicting yourself since the beginning Britain or Russian marching towards France... smh.. you change your arguments every two posts, at one point it is Europe needs protection of uncle sam and now it is Europe does not need protection so let's get rid of NATO ? oh and your contradictions continue.. if Europe is not in danger why would Europe need to spend more on defense ?

I never said NATO is obsolete, NATO centered around defending US and Europe against Russian threat would be obsolete not really the case anymore.. Trash is asking Europe to increase defense spending for political reasons not because he believes Europe should be autonomous on its defense. I don't have numbers but I'm pretty sure US economy benefits more from NATO than the contrary.

Finally when I said traditional alliance should be reinforced I'm not talking about specifically NATO. My point is that Trash do is very best to weaken this alliance through trashing NATO and launching trade wars left and right when he should for the sake of everybody do the opposite.

World is gonna be dominated soon by China, Russia is becoming stronger, Islamism is growing, planet earth is becoming a giant trash can... we can face that together Europe+US or we can deal with that individually and break current alliance... I know what I prefer...

If Europe is pushed around the corner, Europe will tie new alliances with China/Russia and this is exactly what it is happening...

[boutons_deux]

de Gaulle took France nuclear because he realized France didn't have the industrial might to build a compe ive non-nuclear force, couldn't compete with USA or Russia (turns out Russia's industrial might was a charade pushed by the CIA, a charade that was exposed when USSR collapsed)

[hater]

Based on what are you saying France defense is weak ? France defense pilar is nuclear dissuasion, France has a dozen of nuclear submarines that are perfectly capable to bring nuclear threat anywhere in the world, French traditional forces are more than enough to deal with the rest of the threats. You are the one contradicting yourself since the beginning Britain or Russian marching towards France... smh.. you change your arguments every two posts, at one point it is Europe needs protection of uncle sam and now it is Europe does not need protection so let's get rid of NATO ? oh and your contradictions continue.. if Europe is not in danger why would Europe need to spend more on defense ?

I never said NATO is obsolete, NATO centered around defending US and Europe against Russian threat would be obsolete not really the case anymore.. Trash is asking Europe to increase defense spending for political reasons not because he believes Europe should be autonomous on its defense. I don't have numbers but I'm pretty sure US economy benefits more from NATO than the contrary.

Finally when I said traditional alliance should be reinforced I'm not talking about specifically NATO. My point is that Trash do is very best to weaken this alliance through trashing NATO and launching trade wars left and right when he should for the sake of everybody do the opposite.

World is gonna be dominated soon by China, Russia is becoming stronger, Islamism is growing, planet earth is becoming a giant trash can... we can face that together Europe+US or we can deal with that individually and break current alliance... I know what I prefer...

If Europe is pushed around the corner, Europe will tie new alliances with China/Russia and this is exactly what it is happening...

Yes france has nukes you have repeated it hundred times. That is not equivalent to having a strong army. Those nukes are useless vs a conventional army coose to your borders. You cannot nuke them and avoid wiping out lots of your population.

France conventional army is weak when compared to the big boys qnd would easily be overrun by anforce of 100,000 troops

So no France does not have strong defense vs a massive invasion by a strong army.

You qre depnding on Papa Trump and will do as told

[Brazil]

de Gaulle took France nuclear because he realized France didn't have the industrial might to build a compe ive non-nuclear force, couldn't compete with USA or Russia (turns out Russia's industrial might was a charade pushed by the CIA, a charade that was exposed when USSR collapsed)

exactly.. France population is 67 M.. there is no way you can build an army to compete with Russia, USA and nowadays China.. only option was Nuclear dissuasion and a small independent traditional force to bring dat threat everywhere and to deal with local conflicts..

England chose another approach and basically surrended its defense to the americans.. germans for obvious reasons have been obliged to keep their defense at the bare minimum untill 20 / 30 years ago.. the rest (Spain, Italy...) did not have the economic strength to do anything relevant

[Brazil]

Yes france has nukes you have repeated it hundred times. That is not equivalent to having a strong army. Those nukes are useless vs a conventional army coose to your borders. You cannot nuke them and avoid wiping out lots of your population.

France conventional army is weak when compared to the big boys qnd would easily be overrun by anforce of 100,000 troops

So no France does not have strong defense vs a massive invasion by a strong army.

You qre depnding on Papa Trump and will do as told

and you still don't get it dear god

a defense based on an operational and significant nuclear arsenal is not weak... nuclear dissuasion is not made to nuke troops marching on your country.. nuclear dissuasion is to dissuade any nation willing to nuke French territory and also make to dissuade anybody to march on your country.. if the red army decide to march on france, france won't try to stop them with traditional force but will launch nuclear strikes on russian soil..

what the bro.. why do you think North Korea want that bad a nuclear arsenal you idiot ? to precisely avoid anybody invading its territory...

Russian are gonna take the risk to invade France and risk the death of 80 M of their people

[hater]

Again you cannot use your nukes in a regional war.


How many germans were lost when they paraded into paris in June 17, 1940?

Typical French “we all good we got nukes. Noone will boher us”

Then they wave the white flag and beg US for help

[Pavlov]

Again you cannot use your nukes in a regional war.


How many germans were lost when they paraded into paris in June 17, 1940?

Typical French “we all good we got nukes. Noone will boher us”

Then they wave the white flag and beg US for help

France certainly would've nuked Germany if they had them in WWII.

[Blake]

France certainly would've nuked Germany if they had them in WWII.

lebomb

[hater]

We wouldnt have baggettes and French Fries would be called Canadian Fries tbqh as the fallout would have obliterated france as well

[Pavlov]

We wouldnt have baggettes and French Fries would be called Canadian Fries tbqh as the fallout would have obliterated france as well

You know, Japan still exists after being hit by two WWII nukes. Germany was about the same size as Japan and France is quite a bit larger. You're going to have to show your work to prove this claim.

You won't.

[hater]

The 300 nukes france has are imensely more powerful. And Japan was in taters not in the Nazi prime where many more wpuld have been needed

Stick to your dayjob tbqh

[Chris]

lol Pavlov confusing thermonuclear bombs with fission bombs

[hater]

lol Pavlov confusing thermonuclear bombs with fission bombs

[Pavlov]

The 300 nukes france has are imensely more powerful. And Japan was in taters not in the Nazi prime where many more wpuld have been needed

Stick to your dayjob tbqh

We're talking about WWII nukes being used in WWII.

lol hater mad

[Pavlov]

lol Pavlov confusing thermonuclear bombs with fission bombs

lol WWII bombs being used in WWII.

But sure, the French definitely would've used a fusion bomb if it had one back then. No question.

[hater]

So besides going along with his fantasy if France had nukes in ww2 and would have most definitely used them, he has the audacity to tell us which exact nukes and power they fantastically can have and which they cannot

chump

[Pavlov]

So besides going along with his fantasy if France had nukes in ww2 and would have most definitely used them, he has the audacity to tell us which exact nukes and power they fantastically can have and which they cannot

chump

You want them to have the most modern nukes in WWII?

OK.

They magically have them in WWII.

And they use them on Germany.

Pretty simple.

[hater]

there were no nukes in 1940 re

We are discussing Frances current nukes not ones used on Japan

You have fail written all over you just move on

[Pavlov]

there were no nukes in 1940 re

No . Hence the word "if."

Words are hard for you.

We are discussing Frances current nukes not ones used on Japan

You have fail written all over you just move on

lol hater has never heard of variable yield, either.

[Brazil]

Again you cannot use your nukes in a regional war.


How many germans were lost when they paraded into paris in June 17, 1940?

Typical French “we all good we got nukes. Noone will boher us”

Then they wave the white flag and beg US for help

and why exactly I cannot use nukes in a regional war ? have you any idea of the distance between Paris and Moscow ?

if I don't use it for regional war I'm going to use on what ? nuke china ?

If Russian march on France, France will trigger nuclear strike on major russian cities.. how this is that complicated to understand ?

also yeah exactly we got nukes, none will bother us on our territory.. this is how nuclear dissuasion works dumbass

[hater]

and why exactly I cannot use nukes in a regional war ? have you any idea of the distance between Paris and Moscow ?

if I don't use it for regional war I'm going to use on what ? nuke china ?

If Russian march on France, France will trigger nuclear strike on major russian cities.. how this is that complicated to understand ?

also yeah exactly we got nukes, none will bother us on our territory.. this is how nuclear dissuasion works dumbass

So let me get it straight. 100,000 troops are marching inside your border and you will blow your load on russian cities.

Do you think that will make the 100,000 troops walk back?

You dont think they will take it out on your women and children and create Russia v2.0 in baggetteland?

No thats not what nukes are for idiot. Nukes are there to prevent other countries from nuking you. Its called Mutual Assured Destruction

[Pavlov]

So let me get it straight. 100,000 troops are marching inside your border and you will blow your load on russian cities.

Do you think that will make the 100,000 troops walk back?

You dont think they will take it out on your women and children and create Russia v2.0 in baggetteland?

No thats not what nukes are for idiot. Nukes are there to prevent other countries from nuking you. Its called Mutual Assured Destruction

hater admits he has never heard of variable yield

lol hater

[hater]

Watch out

Here comes Chumpy with his fantasies about French developing a time machine and shipping a mini nuke to 1940

[Pavlov]

Watch out

Here comes Chumpy with his fantasies about French developing a time machine and shipping a mini nuke to 1940

lol hater still having problems with the word "if" and trying to distract from his complete ignorance of the concept of variable yield.

The only thing left for him is an emoji storm.