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    As much as I dislike DeRozan's game and as hideous as they'd be to watch, given the situation, I could understand the rationale. Anunoby and Poeltl are comparable to Covington and Saric and the '21 Heat 1st is highly unlikely to reach the heights of DeRozan (top 30 player).

    Even if they wanted and/or could get Fultz, they'd be hoping he could become a top 30 player. Same goes for Ingram and financially, it would be extremely difficult to pull off a trade with them now. Besides, with their refusal to include Kuzma and probably Ball, that leaves nothing more than minor assets.

    Spurs could still win 50+, possibly a round, have 5 interesting young players (with the possible exception of Walker, probably all role players, but good ones) and a relatively clean cap sheet moving forward. There are worse things and no scenario is likely to lead to anything better.

    I mean, they could and should waive Pau next summer. They just won't stretch him. They'll take all $7 Million on next year's cap and still not have any tax issues going forward.

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    This is likely all a smokescreen tbh. Spurs using TOR as leverage to get more from Philly.

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    why did they stretch duncan? did they use cap room that summer?
    Yes. On Gasol.

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    Good point. I didn't think of that tbh You're probably right about him not saying a word.
    For the record my comment was directed at Kawhi, not you. Hope I didn't sound like an asshole (unlike most on ST )

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    That's a little nutty. He does have great potential but he wasn't even the best player on his team.

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    So would Siakam be our Kyle replacement? If so count me in. From the few Raptor games i saw his defense was solid and the kids hustles. Could be a poor man's Draymond Green for us tbh.

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    Lonnie's new profile pic on twitter



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    We sure he's not confusing him with White? Otherwise, that's one stupid basketball ops person, tbh.

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    As much as I dislike DeRozan's game, given the situation, I could understand the rationale. Anunoby and Poeltl are comparable to Covington and Saric and the '21 Heat 1st is highly unlikely to reach the heights of DeRozan (top 30 player).

    Even if they wanted and/or could get Fultz, they'd be hoping he could become a top 30 player. Same goes for Ingram and financially, it would be extremely difficult to pull off a trade with them now. Besides, with their refusal to include Kuzma and probably Ball, that leaves nothing more than minor assets.

    Spurs could still win 50+, possibly a round, have 5 interesting young players (with the possible exception of Walker, probably all role players, but good ones) and a relatively clean cap sheet moving forward. There are worse things and no scenario is likely to lead to anything better.


    Don't forget the part where they screw the group. I'm not joking, I'm sure it plays a part in Pop's decision.

    Could also be Poker play to some extent to show other teams, which have lowballed them so far, that they have leverage and are about to pull a trade to force them to react and up their offers.

    You can be sure that RC's line is busy right now.

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    This is likely all a smokescreen tbh. Spurs using TOR as leverage to get more from Philly.
    Didn't see your post

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    Out of all the trades this one with Toronto seems like the best one and i am no fan of Derozan. But i still prefer him over ingram or kuzma and tobias harris.

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    If a trade goes down, got to lose some dead weight.

    Clearly kid has upside and is a very good athlete

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    Not saying kid can't play but you can read that stuff one million times every summer.

    Then for the 10% of occasions when it materializes "Told you !"

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    Not saying kid can't play but you can read that stuff one million times every summer.

    Then for the 10% of occasions when it materializes "Told you !"
    Except this ops guy said it anonymously.

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    No, but I think it played a small role in Kawhis unhappiness.

    Kawhi & Sims were tight.

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    He hasn't even been the best Spur tbh. That'd be Derrick White. But he's definitely shown flashes of his upside.

    Like every other Spurs draft pick, I have high hopes but I think some of these comments are based on the PATFO reputation for getting talent that has generally performed better than the draft position indicated it should.

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    He hasn't even been the best Spur tbh. That'd be Derrick White. But he's definitely shown flashes of his upside.

    Has that dude watched any other players like Sexton?

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    We sure he's not confusing him with White? Otherwise, that's one stupid basketball ops person, tbh.
    Walker is 19....

    White is 24....


    So yeah I kinda see where he’s coming from

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    Poetl and OG both have great potential. Could really be a foundation with our youthful guards.

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    Like every other Spurs draft pick, I have high hopes but I think some of these comments are based on the PATFO reputation for getting talent that has generally performed better than the draft position indicated it should.
    Maybe. I have to think he was just talking about potential. To me Lonnie looks like an NBA player who just makes terrible decisions. For a 19 year old who hasn't played a minute of NBA basketball, that's actually very exciting.

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    To me Lonnie looks like an NBA player who just makes terrible decisions. For a 19 year old who hasn't played a minute of NBA basketball, that's actually very exciting.

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    Maybe. I have to think he was just talking about potential. To me Lonnie looks like an NBA player who just makes terrible decisions. For a 19 year old who hasn't played a minute of NBA basketball, that's actually very exciting.
    Walker absolutely passes the eye test.

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    Maybe. I have to think he was just talking about potential. To me Lonnie looks like an NBA player who just makes terrible decisions. For a 19 year old who hasn't played a minute of NBA basketball, that's actually very exciting.
    He doesn't get enough separation when he looks for the ball and so he doesn't get the pass. When he does get the ball he rushes things a bit. His pick and roll game is definitely amateur. Other than that, he has been pretty darn good and exciting.

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    Spurs fans talking themselves into DeRozan...I wouldn't take him for nothing.

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    Has that dude watched any other players like Sexton?
    Out of rooks not counting Josh JACKSON, Isaacs or Josh Hart who played last year...
    But Sexton, Carter Jr, Knox and WaLker have been some of the more impressive rookies. Ayton has shown flashes too.
    I thought this draft was overrated but it may end up better than last year's.. Though iI would still take Tatum over anyone in this class I think this group is gonna be deeper.

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