Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[venitian navigator]

if something with the Raptors goes on, it could also be something that let them have their supposed stars...while downloading to us their worst contracts (except their all star back court, these are Powell and Ibaka).
One deal that work, for example, is :

Powell - Ibaka - Siakam - OG - Poeltl for Leonard - Pau - Paul

[Chinook]

I like Lowry more than DeRozan, but it's MUCH easier for SA to pivot toward acquiring a guard after getting DeRozan than it would be for them to find a forward after Lowry. They almost certainly could get Walker if they wanted for example. The only forward who could be on the market is Harris, and I think LAC would hold onto him for now for any reasonable offer. The team needed a scoring guard WITH Kawhi and Aldridge. So trading Kawhi for one still leaves a major hole that SA should prioritize filling.

Lowry, White, Frobes
Murray, Beli, Walker
Anunoby, Gay, Siakam
Harris, Bertans, Metu
Aldridge, Gasol, Milutinov

Two-way: Hanlan and Blossomgame

That's a legit and versatile roster that should be possible, though it could get expensive to maintain.

[Chinook]

if something with the Raptors goes on, it could also be something that let them have their supposed stars...while downloading to us their worst contracts (except their all star back court, these are Powell and Ibaka).
One deal that work, for example, is :

Powell - Ibaka - Siakam - OG - Poeltl for Leonard - Pau - Paul

Powell is a huge negative right now. SA would be drowning in bad salary if they brought him in without moving Mills at least.

[BatManu20]

Something tell me kawahi isnt going to toronto and this is all baseless speculation

Been saying I don’t think Toronto happens, even if it does make the most sense on paper. I think it’s Philly or bust.

[BatManu20]

He wipes his IG every summer. Did it the last two Summers too.

[JPB]

everyone is worried about making a mandatory trade for kiwi, but the example is cleveland


one year ago..... and now after irving trade, who is thinking that it was a good idea to have the of players contracts like hill, Clarkson, larry nance,


that means they now have and their contracts


SA has to keep the rat and rebuild from free agency or draft, bring mediocre players does not even have money available to go to free agency

Ideal is precisely to get expiring and picks. You need picks to rebuild. Just one more pick can change your landscape if you draft well.

[venitian navigator]

Powell is a huge negative right now. SA would be drowning in bad salary if they brought him in without moving Mills at least.

Agree, but Powell is a bad asset in a total iso game like the Raptors were playing for De Rozan. In a different system, with more young and speed oriented guys he could be worth is contract. For sure he's a decent defender and has athletic sjills (also a good outside shoot till last season).
Mills can be traded in a separate deal for a forward...I see markets like Broocklin (for the newly acquired Arthur or Faried) and Philly (for Chandler's expiring) as possible as teams they could like him (both are fast pace oriented teams).

[Chinook]

Agree, but Powell is a bad asset in a total iso game like the Raptors were playing for De Rozan. In a different system, with more young and speed oriented guys he could be worth is contract. For sure he's a decent defender and has athletic sjills (also a good outside shoot till last season).
Mills can be traded in a separate deal for a forward...I see markets like Broocklin (for the newly acquired Arthur or Faried) and Philly (for Chandler's expiring) as possible as teams they could like him (both are fast pace oriented teams).

I'm not taking back bad salary and them paying another team to send out not-as-bad salary. I'm also not locking up yet another 6-4 guard. Toronto would have to pay big to move Norm to SA if I were PATFO. The Spurs just don't have salary bad enough for it to make sense.

[JPB]

Gonna be hilarious in 2 years when these teams look back and realize they didn't trade for Kawhi because they didn't want to lose guys like Ingram, Markelle Fultz, Jaylen Brown....


I'd trade Dejounte and/or White for a guy like Kemba on a 1yr, no hesitation....and Kemba is no Kawhi....

This, tbh.

NBA champion, 2 times DOTY, Lebron and Durant terminator in his prime, considered favorite before this drama for this year MPV and you don't want to trade for kids who had one decent season in the Leastern conference and a couple of good games vs Indiana, Washington or whatever in the PO...

Without the drama, it would be no brainer but no doubt that's what most GMs have in mind now and why Spurs will get re-upped offers in the following days or hours.

other teams fans : "Spurs have no leverage"
Fakers fans : "You'll have no choice but take our garbage".

Let the sweepstakawhes begin....

[DJR210]

Sad news for Isaiah. This guy was scheduled to make hundreds of millions. Hope he recovers though

Yes, receiving a measly 2 million dollars to play a game is the most depressing thing I've read all week

[DJR210]

For someone to make a dunk compilation, I was expecting it to be a highlight reel of impressive dunks.. A ton of those came off playing the passing lanes though

[JuneJive]

Kawhi's showing at Team USA camp would boost his trade value.

Any chance that PATFO are waiting for this?

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs interested in Nwaba. 6'4 undrafted SG out of Cal Poly in 2016.

no surprise, spurs love players under 6'6 "

[spurschamps99030507]

Ideal is precisely to get expiring and picks. You need picks to rebuild. Just one more pick can change your landscape if you draft well.

what I mean is that SA can not bring contracts like derozan when next summer there are players in free agency like jimmy butler, irving etc.

the key is to have salary space next summer. You stay with the rat,

derozan is a good regular season player, in the playoffs we have all seen the that they are with lowry

[exstatic]

what I mean is that SA can not bring contracts like derozan when next summer there are players in free agency like jimmy butler, irving etc.

the key is to have salary space next summer. You stay with the rat,

derozan is a good regular season player, in the playoffs we have all seen the that they are with lowry

The reality is, it doesn’t matter if DD is just a regular season player. No one is beating GS until they break up. Pop is coaching two more years, and they will be transitional seasons, playoffs, but also development of youngsters, so when he leaves, the team will go on. At that point, 2020, one or more of GS four horsemen will have left, and DD will be an ending contract that we can flip.

[spurschamps99030507]

The reality is, it doesn’t matter if DD is just a regular season player. No one is beating GS until they break up. Pop is coaching two more years, and they will be transitional seasons, playoffs, but also development of youngsters, so when he leaves, the team will go on. At that point, 2020, one or more of GS four horsemen will have left, and DD will be an ending contract that we can flip.

yep I know 1y ago Adrian Wojnarowski@wojespn

Sources: In the Kyrie Irving meeting with Cavs, one of primary teams raised as a preferred trade destination for him: The San Antonio Spurs.

22:17 - 21 jul. 2017

It has been reported that Jimmy Butler and Irving are great friends, I would like SA to have salary space next summer & the team may have the possibility to sign them assuming that the rat is leaving

[Mr. Body]

yep I know 1y ago Adrian Wojnarowski@wojespn

Sources: In the Kyrie Irving meeting with Cavs, one of primary teams raised as a preferred trade destination for him: The San Antonio Spurs.22:17 - 21 jul. 2017

It has been reported that Jimmy Butler and Irving are great friends, I would like SA to have salary space next summer & the team may have the possibility to sign them assuming that the rat is leaving

No way in Kyrie and Butler come to SA. They're going to a big market like NYK if they can

[spurschamps99030507]

No way in Kyrie and Butler come to SA. They're going to a big market like NYK if they can

in that information indicated that his favorite destination was San Antonio, in his consideration that it is a small market is not a problem

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

yep I know 1y ago Adrian Wojnarowski@wojespn

Sources: In the Kyrie Irving meeting with Cavs, one of primary teams raised as a preferred trade destination for him: The San Antonio Spurs.

22:17 - 21 jul. 2017

It has been reported that Jimmy Butler and Irving are great friends, I would like SA to have salary space next summer & the team may have the possibility to sign them assuming that the rat is leaving

They won't be able to create two max slots next summer. The only chance for this to be even a minor possibility would be to trade the snake for Butler now and sign him to an extension and they'll still be hard pressed to open another max slot without trading Aldridge. Not that Minnesota seem interested in the snake in the slightest anyway.

[spurschamps99030507]

Jan 4, 2018, 2:30 PM EDT

Adrian Wojnarowski on ESPN:

San Antonio tried really, really hard to make a trade for him. And that was the initial goal, to play for Pop. It wasn’t about big market

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/01/04...-kyrie-irving/

[Mr. Body]

in that information indicated that his favorite destination was San Antonio, in his consideration that it is a small market is not a problem

As you well know, everybody on the market as an FA or trade target will list San Antonio as a destination.

[CGD]

Jan 4, 2018, 2:30 PM EDT

Adrian Wojnarowski on ESPN:

San Antonio tried really, really hard to make a trade for him. And that was the initial goal, to play for Pop. It wasn’t about big market

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/01/04...-kyrie-irving/

Dodged a bullet with that injury. If this was last year and we had more cost control, I’d be all over Irving coming. But the rumors of him to NYC ereely remind me of the Lebron to LA rumors that started to gain steam this time last year. That seems cooked.

[8FOR!3]

Nwaba is a good defender he’d be a good player to have

[Maddog]

Nwaba is a good defender he’d be a good player to have

Another guard

[SAGirl]

The assumption is they have come to the realization that Lowry-DeRozan core has hit it's ceiling. This would be more of a salary dump of DeRozan so they can start heading in a different direction earlier moreso than it is them banking on being able to resign Kawhitter. I'm sure they'd try to keep him but confidence in keeping him isn't the reason they would make the move.

DeRozan, OG, and a pick would be enough for me. Remain compe ive for Pop and LMA's final years by adding an in his prime 25 PPG guy and get a 20 year old that will hold down the SF position for years to come. What's so bad about that?

I have thought about this and it doesn't make sense for the Raptors unless they get to keep Kawhi to give up their best young talent and picks, bc they would lose those assets on top of Leonard. I don't expect the trade to be that rich.

We may criticize Derozan but he has been a franchise player... I am not sure Raptors would feel that they need to attach rebuilding pieces that they will need for themselves when Kawhi walks. If am the Raptors I don't do this deal.