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  1. #16601
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    delusional Laker fans on Twitter saying they should only offer Deng for Kawhi straight up. Smh

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    delusional Laker fans on Twitter saying they should only offer Deng for Kawhi straight up. Smh


    "Well just lose him for nothing then!"

    Ok, we will gladly take the $20M+ in cap space next summer to throw at another max FA over taking on the worst contract in the NBA and being strapped until 20/21.

    I know California is a recreational state, but goddamn...

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    Wait are you gots seriously comparing this back-stabbing, two-faced, re ed mute crybaby, who's being paid millions of dollars by his employer, not being traded yet in a basketball league to actual slavery.?? The ? Y'all gotta be trolling or you guys are literally the dumbest, most ignorant mother ers on the planet
    ..

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    Spurs fans are going HAM on Leonard with such nastiness is because they never expected this barefaced treachery and betrayal coming from him.

    It still defies belief how wrong we were about this guy.

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    Spurs fans are going HAM on Leonard with such nastiness is because they never expected this barefaced treachery and betrayal coming from him.

    It still defies belief how wrong we were about this guy.
    Yep. More upsetting w each passing day.

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    I keep coming to ST waiting to see some sort of grand announcement! Is anybody from PATFO/Kawhi's Group even talking to each other or are they both playing chicken, waiting for someone to blink?

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    Bene's grown surly over the years and tends to come off pretty abrasively with new posters, but his point is valid. Laker's fans like LkrFan and Killakobe81 aren't trolls. They are members of this board who have put in years of service. They were here to trash talk when there was still an SA/LAL rivalry, and they stayed here through their team's recent string of terrible years. Some of them like DeadlyDynasty also contribute to the NFL Forum on here, and that's probably the closest thing we have to Prime SpursTalk nowadays. You attacked them without understanding that they belong here. It wasn't your fault that you didn't know, but there's wisdom in benefactor's criticism. ST is a weird place, and if you don't want to find yourself in random disputes like this, it helps to semi-lurk for a bit.

    Hopefully, you'll take this as the mere explanation it is and not feel like I'm going at you. We can always use new blood on here, but expecting this to be like Red or RealGM would set you up for disappointment.

    nah man that explanation is much appreciated and totally understood I been on here for years but never joined cause I just would read and check for opinions, input, rumors and news. This whole kawitter thing just got me so annoyed that I had to let it out and your right I don't know everyone on here laker fans and all but as fans going through this its just some comments I saw that irked me even more like rubbing our nose in it. I'm okay with people being people but being jerks or bullies gets my goat. With all that being said the way you came across is awesome and I totally understand it when you put it like that so my apologies to anyone I offended fact is I am still learning about peeps on here but I guess I let my Spurs colored glasses get the best of me. Let's move on boys and just hope we can get this Leonard crap settled soon so we can focus on the team. Thanks brother!!!

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    The more I think about the Toronto trade, the more I love it. If you treat it as a straight salary dump by TOR, a lot of things become clear.

    A). This is the nightmare scenario for The Group. Toronto, by trading DD, and with Lowry expiring next summer, is indicating a rebuild, starting in 2019. They may not even be all that interested in re-signing him unless they make the Finals, an order of magnitude improvement. If The Group pulls any kind of , they will find themselves fielding only 4/$139m offers.

    B) Because of the rebuild, there is no way that TOR entertains offers to flip Kawhitter this season to the LAL. The only realistic salary ballast is Deng, and he’s under contract until 2020. Toronto will want no part of that, having started the rebuild/cap clear ball rolling already by shipping out DD. All of those players who Magic so cleverly signed to one year deals would have to give their permission for a trade, and ohow many do you think want to go from LA to a crash and burn in Toronto? . It’s almost like the “keep him and let him walk” scenario, except we get a young asset and a rental 20 point scorer for probably two seasons.

    C). It’s cold, and far away from his family’s two bases of operations: LA and NJ.
    i couldn't agree more and I don't hate the trade if what we hear is even close to what we are getting. Let alone I keep stressing if the Spurs had another trade up their sleeve to get kawitter to stay why wouldn't they still be able to pull that trade off assuming it's still on the table after trading him. Your looking at a very solid team if the Spurs pulled off raptor deal and then supposive/rumored deal if they play Spurs ball they have a shot against anyone if they are system friendly.

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    Spurs fans are going HAM on Leonard with such nastiness is because they never expected this barefaced treachery and betrayal coming from him.

    It still defies belief how wrong we were about this guy.
    I was in denial. And I'm not talking about the river in Egypt.

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    Cool meltdown, bro.
    No argument, I see. That's good. You know it's the truth.

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    Are the tax rates really that high there? How much would Kawhi get taxed in just the regular season games from next year's salary if he were to play in Toronto next season?
    On his salary in Toronto taxes will be almost $6 million as opposed to SA around half of that.

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    I was in denial. And I'm not talking about the river in Egypt.
    You are not alone. Anyone who is saying "I told you so" was trolling with an anti-Kawhi shtick (tholdren, playboban etc..).

    Him being aloof and having no friends on the team wasn't a big surprise, but the most shocking part was, as it's been showing, his cold or non-existing relationship with Pop. I mean c'mon, the legendary coach who brought you up in this league has to go through your dumbass uncle to talk to you? Absolute madness.

    Again, I remain skeptical about his mental state.
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    Legendary coattail rider, tbh. As evident as of late.

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    so weird seeing the bulls s out the kind of money that they have for lavine and parker. i guess they've gotten less cheap.
    The Parker deal isn't so bad. They needed to pay out salary to get near the cap anyways, and the Bulls have a team option on the second year.

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    No argument, I see. That's good. You know it's the truth.
    What are you actually arguing?

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    The Parker deal isn't so bad. They needed to pay out salary to get near the cap anyways, and the Bulls have a team option on the second year.
    Bulls would actually be a decent team to trade with given the MJ connection/big media market. Weaker connection than sending Kawhi to the Hornets but I bet there could still be an under the table Jordan brand deal that gets done if Kawhi agrees to re-sign. They have loads of assets.

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    You are not alone. Anyone who is saying "I told you so" was trolling with anti-Kawhi shtick (tholdren, playboban etc..).

    Him being aloof and having no friends on the team wasn't a big surprise, but the most shocking part was, as it's been showing, his cold or non-existing relationship with Pop. I mean c'mon, the legendary coach who brought you up in this league has to go through your dumbass uncle to talk to you? Absolute madness.

    Again, I remain skeptical about his mental state.
    I was one of the few who felt he was playing the Spurs from the beginning granted I don't feel good about being right. I don't think any real spurs fan who called this bs earlier gets any pleasure about being right. If anything I wished I was wrong about this from the beginning but it was hard for me to ignore the rumblings from his Uncle and I have a good friend whose a doctor that told me Kawhi's injury was a bunch of bs. Once I put those two things together I felt great betrayal from the re ed mute.

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    Kawhi has said nothing but spursfan trying to paint him as the devil because they're inpatient.

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    Kawhi has said nothing but spursfan trying to paint him as the devil because they're inpatient.
    Inpatient? Like at the hospital?

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    Inpatient? Like at the hospital?
    Typo.

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    Kawhi has said nothing spursfan trying to paint him as the devil because they're inpatient.
    And here lies the problem.

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    Soooo....nothing new. Got it.

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    Teams still trying to lowball RC who looks at them like :



    Last edited by JPB; 07-14-2018 at 06:45 PM.

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    Only happy thing is that RC and Pop are sticking to their guns as long as they don't trade him to the Flakers it's all good.

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