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i'm pretty sure pop could turn jimmy butler into what you should've been... kawhi without the whining.
I don't know what KAT did to Butler other than not play defense but Jimmy really wants out. Can't blame him. Wiggins doesn't play defense either and that contract is an albatross. Swapping Kawhi for Butler would be the best outcome of all of this. Most likely though Wolves will feel they're not getting enough back, same as the Heat in my own three team trade.
i'm pretty sure pop could turn jimmy butler into what you should've been... kawhi without the whining.
What should have been done in this years draft is still debatable. Everyone knows the biggest Spurs draft night ball drop was taking CoJo over JB.
Dis tbh. I mean, as a fan, I’m on the edge of my seat refreshing Google results on “Kawhi trade” every 5 minutes. But I’m glad the Spurs are taking their time, assessing everything, playing hardball, and giving Kawhi an opportunity to change of heart.
Whether the Spurs really have the edge or the ball in their court with the situation, they’re showing Kawhi who’s boss and the rest of the league this isn’t some ‘rob us for Kawhi’ mess. Actually proud of the front office
They have a Kawhi in their hand, several teams interested (that are not going anywhere, quite the opposite with time) and don't HAVE to trade him. What losing hand are you talking about ?... They don't even have to play if they don't want to Why would they have to fold anything, much less going all in.
The river(walk) will always be nice for them anyway in that play.
Kawhi is not pocket aces. They are playing their hand. They have seen the flop and missed. The turn may have improved their chances. They are still trying to improve their hand and are waiting for the river. Ending up with Kawhi is not winning. Maybe not losing, but no other team would be losing either. I guess we will see what the river brings.
Watching Miles Bridges who was picked #12 in SL dish no-look passes and finish dunks with authority, yeah I'd have taken that plus Walker and another prospect along with Harris.
if the spurs could of gottten 3 good first round talents along with Harris maybe but i dont know
West was also willing to offer Tobias, 12, 13, AND "additional players" . . . one of Dekker, Harrell S&T, Boban just for fun, etc.
There's still hope, though!
I would not have traded down like clips did but if hornets took him instead of SGA I would have been more than happy to take SGA instead. Depending how bad Porters back injury was, he could have been the homerun the Spurs would be looking for. I would have liked Robert Williams at 18 even though I knew he was undisiplined and Pop would not be able to handle him. The discipline looks to be worse than I thought. Knowing this I would have taken Okobo , who was projected lower and went at 31.
I don't think PATFO would've traded 3 firsts to get into the top 5 unless they were memorized with a player but it seems that they were targeting Walker.
This could've been cliche GM post draft talk but R.C mentioned that the Spurs didn't expect Walker to fall to them at 18 and considered trading up to get him (same thing they said with Murray-though he was expected to go in the teens, no 29)
Reporting has bee spotty; I heard it was Harris and 12 OR 13. If was all 3 plus Dekker and Boban, I would've taken that.
Then again that's not discernibly better than the asking price for Philly (Saric, Covington and 3 1st's)
I liked the 12/13/Harris deal a lot more than a number of folks here did. Had the Spurs come out of the draft with Lonnie, Mikal and Williams to go with Tobias, I would have been elated. However, Williams has looked like a dud so far, they got Lonnie anyway, and Mikal would not have even been there. Maybe Porter Jr would have been a good pick to sit while Harris held down the spot, I don't know. But the fact that Kawhi hasn't been traded with the slim possibility of a reunion suggests a trade wasn't the best course. There are better outcomes still in the works
Well, Philly is only offering 1 pick right now.
I agree with most of this , but Mikal was apparently available. I don't know who approached who in the Sixers-Suns deal , but the suns got Mikal. If West approached Philly about a trade they might have been able to make the deal. I don't see a big difference between a miami or clipper pick in 2021.
Even if Pop didn't want to deal in the draft , the clippers would be in better negotiating position. They'd have to wait about three more weeks to include SGA and Mikal, but if nothing happens by then they could be in the discussion . West is pushing hard to get Kawhi and I think taking Patty for Bev and Boban would close the deal for me. Salaries match and Spurs have the wrong Patrick. Bobi and Toby seem to be good buddies and seem like a lot of fun.
Has that been reported? Last I saw-the asking price was Saric, Covington and 3 1sts while Kawhi and Gasol was what Philly wanted.
I figured that then number of picks was the only hangup but if they're only offering 1 then PATFO is right to hang on to Kawhi.
shai is the best player of that draft, any trade with the clippers he should be the priority
You don't fold with a top 4 player in the league. You play the hand out until you either get what you want or you fold at the end. We're holding pocket aces and we didn't get what we wanted on the flop (draft) or the turn (opening of free agency) but they're going to hold out for the river (trade deadline) before seeing if we need to fold.
Spurs were too conservative and should have jumped on draft night to the 76ers to land Bridges. The Spurs were too afraid to pull the trigger on a trade. Conservative thinking
More like a top 10 player. Spur fans over rate Leonard. There are clearly 5 or 6 players better in the league.
They could have also gotten Mikal Bridges on draft night in that package. Phil contacted Phoenix so had the Spurs contacted Phil first they could have gotten Bridges. Bridges is going to be a star player.
The guy who got second and third in MVP voting in the last two years he played?
Phil approached Phoenix as reports had Phoenix was ready to draft Divencenzo but last minute switched to Zaire Smith for Phil. It is known Phil wanted Leonard and had the Spurs first contacted Phil they could have gotten Bridges in a deal.
I can agree with that.
I don't think Spurs were going to trade on draft night. If they were , I would have been happy with dealing with the Sixers.
I am looking at it from what would be Jerry West's best play. If he could have made a deal for Mikal , then having Mikal plus whomever else West drafted (SGA, LW4, the other Bridges) would have put him in a better position when/if Spurs were ready to deal.
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