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Patty's social media account suggest he isn't trying to come into the season in shape.
Andre Roberson and Tony Allen are good examples of effective SGs that can't shoot.
Patty's social media account suggest he isn't trying to come into the season in shape.
Their ceiling was never exactly high. Murray can do better. learning to play point is not a bad thing. He can also use those new skills as an off guard.
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Update:
The Spurs had a deal in place with the Raptors. That deal fell through because of concerns the Raptors had about Kawhi's health. It still could happen, but as of now it's not going to happen.
The Spurs have had talks with the Clippers and Phoenix Suns about a deal for Kawhi.
Off Topic: David Robinson, Part 2 - https://www.expressnews.com/spurs-na...2-13075559.php
Speaking of players and teams, the situation with Kawhi Leonard is the biggest NBA mystery at this point. Did you try and intervene? I’m sure the Spurs are hoping to save the relationship.
Yeah, I’m still hoping. I think it’s frustrating from one point because we’ve had this great success. We’ve built on this for so many years, and it seems like a natural progression. You go from me to Tim Duncan, to Kawhi Leonard. It just seems like it made sense. But clearly, it doesn’t make sense to somebody. So, it is frustrating at a certain level, but at the same time, you can’t expect everybody to think in the same way. I remember when Tim Duncan was thinking about leaving San Antonio. It’s simple man, just come and have a conversation. Let’s sit down and talk. And we sat down and talked. I said, “Tim, why would you leave a situation where you have a championship level team; you’re going to win more championships, and go to a situation where you hope to put together a group that can win championships. That doesn’t make any sense.” And in this particular situation, you’re going to take less money now to do that? That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I don’t understand the logic. It seems like a simple conversation would be able to bring some simple logic to the guy. And say, “Look man. Let’s think this through. Does it even make sense to anybody?” Why do you think everybody is wondering what the heck is going on? You have that kind of a conversation face-to-face, it seems like you can figure it out. But I think that’s why everyone is baffled because nothing makes sense about this whole scenario. Here is a franchise that spent 25 years and has a reputation for taking care of players. Not just the star players, I’m talking about the Cory Joseph’s, the Boban Marjanovic’s. The guys that have come in here and gotten contracts other places. Jonathon Simmons. We’ve nurtured these guys. We’ve haven’t been mad at them when they had other opportunities. They go and take those other opportunities. That’s their blessing. We send coaches out there who have other opportunities. I mean they have a long track record of actually supporting guys. Now, why would you fight that and turn the team into the enemy? That doesn’t make sense. So, a lot of things about this don’t make sense. It seems like simple conversations could really solve some of the problems. But to this day, I don’t hear him talking. I mean, who is saying all this stuff. If it’s you, speak up. If it’s you, step forward and be the man. You’re the face franchise. I don’t want to hear about anybody else in your party. I want to hear from you.
Trade his ass to Sacramento for three cow bells and a second rounder.
Nah man, it's to the point where you just tell him to report to camp. I'm pissed this got killed the Toronto trade with his press release crap. It's time to just suspend him for the season if he shows and if he doesn't force him into retirement for the year.
I've been out of the loop this last week. What press release did KL and the Groupies release?
He didn't kill . Toronto knew he was going to be a rental, and they also knew that Leonard wasn't going to just not show up. The trade didn't go down because SA didn't like what they offered enough to pull the trigger, just like every other trade.
Pretty sure he's talking about Chris Carter saying Leonard's no interested in being a rental.
Seems like the health issue would be the main factor delaying/killing any deal regarding Kawhi. Nothing can/will happen until that concern is addressed. Hardly makes sense to have any meaningful discussions until it is.
When the talk of a deal with Toronto started heating up Cris Carter on Fox Sports said nothing had changed and that Leonard would only go to LA, and Carter said Leonard either should have or wanted to (I forget which) issue a press release saying he'd only go to LA.
The whole health issue would be resolved by bringing Kawhi into camp and having him play some preseason games. I think teams would be more open to a trade after seeing him in action. Whether you trade him now or later, you must exhaust all possibilities. Maybe as we get closer to training camp, he would agree to go to Philly in order to avoid the circus that would come with being back with the Spurs.
Admire the Admiral for laying it out so simply. If only Kawhi listens to some simple and sage advice than the poisonous whispers he is hearing from his "Group"
Thanks guys.
I don't care if KL is interested in being a rental or not, if its the best deal he'll be shipped somewhere other than LA. And if he chooses not to sign there he'll then have been a rental. Obviously, that depresses the market for him. But screw it, he still is under contract and he'll have to play for whomever holds that contract whether that's the Spurs or a trade partner. Dare him to sit out another year.
Reports say Spurs keep losing ‘leverage’ by the day, any thoughts on their time frame?
I think the truth is no one knows if he can actually play. Teams don't want to trade for him because of all the uncertainty.
I think the idea that SA cares about "leverage" is idiotic. They aren't trying to force anyone to trade for him. They are trying to keep Leonard. They don't care who is offering what or who threatens to walk away. Until they decide they definitely intend to trade him, they aren't going to seriously consider offers. That shouldn't be at least until tomorrow when Kawhi can formally reject an extension offer, but it could easily by months from now after having a chance to let things settle a bit more.
Do you have links? I haven't seen that.
We have no leaders on this team. No one wants to go out of their way to reach out to Kawh and I don’t mean going through the media. I understand that we have only had quiet leaders. We seem to have lost so much with the TD retirement besides level of compe ion. LA wants to be liked. He needs to step up regardless of his role if Kawhi comes back. Bunch of No-Balls players on the team.
Screw the . Honor the contract you signed or rot in SA on injured reserve doing Spurs supervise rehab for a year.
Losing leverage by the day is a fallacy. Leverage only changes based on events. As an example, when Team USA holds a 2-day mini camp on July 25th, Leonard's presence (or not) will be a big story. After that, we'll probably have to wait to see how training camp shakes out.
You really think no one tried last year? Come on.
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