Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[JPB]

That’s a dumb question. What can you do with $100 mil you can’t with $0. Glad some people are so privileged that 100 million dollars is point less.

I know what I can do with 1 billion brain cells you can do with only a couple cells.

[r0drig0lac]

Crazy thought . . . if I were the Sixers and could do it all over again here's what I'd do . . .

I'd rather have Fultz (if he's actually healthy mentally/physically and his shot goes back to normal) than Simmons as my PG. Let's face it, Ben will never develop a shot not at the rim. Ship out Simmons with some salary (Chandler?) and get back an elite 3&D wing. Fultz is now the starting PG. Honestly, you might be able to get Jimmy Butler-Minnesota is desperate to move him for something. Now, sign Lebron outright with your cap space (Chandler is gone at this point)-I think he would get serious motivation to play for you guys and sign the same deal he signed with the Lakers . . . 4 years, last year is a player option. Now, go get Kawhi. Throw everything at him. Covington/Saric/Zhaire/2021 Heat pick/other young cheap talent/two of your own future firsts.

So basically you use the fact that Fultz is cheap on his rookie deal and Kawhi and Butler have cheap maxes due to signing their deals under the terms of the old CBA. So your SL would then be Fultz-Butler-Kawhi-LeBron-Joel.

Thoughts?

lmao

[Coach X]

Then why just 100M. Why not give 300M and keep 100 or even just 10, which is more than you nedd to live happy in this life if people well being is so important to him. Where is the treshold ?

And those 100M would go somewhere else, others players who could also donate or the spurs could donate them if part of it was only dedicated to SM. It's a global economy, that money wasn't specially created for Kawhi Leonard.

And I've been wondering about that from another angle... Why not create a society where a guy playing kid a game isn't paid 10K more time than a professor or social worker dedicated his life to help kids, and instead of buying the last $150 trendy sneakers, people were rather directly donating to charities to help disavantadged people instead of feeding NBA divas like this MOFO and counting on their good will to donate (and benefit from taxes deductions) ?

Why not crteate a society where everybody living a decent life was everybody else's worry ?

" Imagine all the people..."

Liberté, égalité, fraternité. Vive la Republique!!

Congratulations for winning the World Cup with a great team of immigrants, mind- ing stupid nationalists all around the world. Thanks for that!

[Namundy]

@wojtek 2 mins ago

@tspence reports @JabariJYoung is contemplating the viability of suicide upon realizing the Spurs won't offer Kawhi the supermax, and he won't be sucking Kawhi's in LA either. He's wondering what went wrong, considering Windhorst did manage the feat sucking Lebron's for over a decade.

Holy

[Coach X]

I too appreciate David Robinson's statements. I don't think he has to choose between his family an the Spurs, but I think he needs to weigh his options carefully. If he stays he's guaranteed a fortune with a team that is known for taking care of their people, even the little guys. If he goes he will certainly lose money, but if that's what he wants no one can stop him...next season. This year he's under contract and needs to play his ass off whether he's planning on staying or not. I'm sorry Pop has had to endure this bull after a horribly tragic year, but he is the consummate professional and will handle this fine I'm sure.

I think one of the keys here is the difference between his group and his family. Group: Uncle, agent, others (journalists, etc.) vs Family: Mom, wife, kids? uncle, sister. Uncle is in both groups and that's what Kawhi and he will have to solve.
If I were Popovich or Bufford I would talk to Kawhi's mum, uncle's sister. Explain to her the situation and plans, showing you care for her son. Try to build bridges, fix as much as possible. Bring her on board and you almost get Kawhi. She is probably the only person able of making work that Spurs-Leonard-Uncle triangle.

[exstatic]

I think one of the keys here is the difference between his group and his family. Group: Uncle, agent, others (journalists, etc.) vs Family: Mom, wife, kids? uncle, sister. Uncle is in both groups and that's what Kawhi and he will have to solve.
If I were Popovich or Bufford I would talk to Kawhi's mum, uncle's sister. Explain to her the situation and plans, showing you care for her son. Try to build bridges, fix as much as possible. Bring her on board and you almost get Kawhi. She is probably the only person able of making work that Spurs-Leonard-Uncle triangle.

It’s one and the same. As part of the depositions for Kahwis former agents suit against Impact, it was revealed that Uncle Fester and Moms have both been on Impacts payroll for at least 5 years.

[Strategic]

No, he's saying that you if don't want to play ball, there's nothing more to say. The Spurs are the ones with Kawhi, and at the end of the day, having him for another year is worth quite a bit. If Philly isn't willing to get to that value threshold, they won't get him, regardless of how low Leonard's "trade value" is. With auctions, not only are there usually opening bids to set a floor on the price, but there's often a secret number the bidding has to reach in order for the object to get sold. A room full of bidders can't conspire to buy a yacht for a dollar. You don't want Philly to make a minimum bid. That's fine. But then they won't get Leonard. Simple as that.

.........In a perfect world, but this story is wrought with mystery and unsavory characters. Unless KL is bound and gagged, this is his doing.

[picnroll]

Bringing Leonard into camp is a storm only for Leonard. If he plays the in camp other players will only think he’s a non-professional a-hole. Other than that they won’t be affected since they’re actually professionals.

[Twisted_Dawg]

@wojtek 2 mins ago

@tspence reports @JabariJYoung is contemplating the viability of suicide upon realizing the Spurs won't offer Kawhi the supermax, and he won't be sucking Kawhi's in LA either. He's wondering what went wrong, considering Windhorst did manage the feat sucking Lebron's for over a decade.

@tspence classic. Rack him!

[daledondale]

@wojtek 2 mins ago

@tspence reports @JabariJYoung is contemplating the viability of suicide upon realizing the Spurs won't offer Kawhi the supermax, and he won't be sucking Kawhi's in LA either. He's wondering what went wrong, considering Windhorst did manage the feat sucking Lebron's for over a decade.

[pgardn]

Then why just 100M. Why not give 300M and keep 100 or even just 10, which is more than you nedd to live happy in this life if people well being is so important to him. Where is the treshold ?

And those 100M would go somewhere else, others players who could also donate or the spurs could donate them if part of it was only dedicated to SM. It's a global economy, that money wasn't specially created for Kawhi Leonard.

And I've been wondering about that from another angle... Why not create a society where a guy playing kid a game isn't paid 10K more time than a professor or social worker dedicated his life to help kids, and instead of buying the last $150 trendy sneakers, people were rather directly donating to charities to help disavantadged people instead of feeding NBA divas like this MOFO and counting on their good will to donate (and benefit from taxes deductions) ?

Why not crteate a society where everybody living a decent life was everybody else's worry ?

" Imagine all the people..."

The people have decided they liked to be entertained.
So much so, they will watch large people run back and forth while at the same time watching commercials that apparently work in selling products. Welcome to the US. And the “free” market. Entertainment is incredibly important in our current state. Entertainment does not come from reading a good book on physics, trying to work out problems, applying to real world problems and sharing. Nor does it come from helping poor and or sick people. Apparently this is the current state of affairs as we discuss this on a sports message board rather hypocritically...

[MoSpur02]

Not sure if anyone has talked about this on here, but it's a little curious that Jeff Ayres, who played for the Spurs in '13-14 and '14-15 and who shares the same agent as Kawhi (Mitch Frankel), is currently playing for the Lakers in Summer League. I still don't think Kawhi ends up with the Lakers, but it's a unique angle nonetheless.

Yeah he represents Ayres and a couple of other players without teams. It's had really. This agent has a list of players. None of them signed on current teams EXCEPT Kawhi. You would think Kawhi Leonard who is a MVP type player with other awards understand his belt would have a more reputable and established agent.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Not sure if anyone has talked about this on here, but it's a little curious that Jeff Ayres, who played for the Spurs in '13-14 and '14-15 and who shares the same agent as Kawhi (Mitch Frankel), is currently playing for the Lakers in Summer League. I still don't think Kawhi ends up with the Lakers, but it's a unique angle nonetheless.

What?!! I thought the summer league was primarily for rookies. People have seen enough of Jeff Ayers to know what his game consists of.

[picnroll]

What?!! I thought the summer league was primarily for rookies. People have seen enough of Jeff Ayers to know what his game consists of.

A limitless bonus to Leonard’s agent from the non-tampering Lakers of course.

[acoelho1]

No, he's saying that you if don't want to play ball, there's nothing more to say. The Spurs are the ones with Kawhi, and at the end of the day, having him for another year is worth quite a bit. If Philly isn't willing to get to that value threshold, they won't get him, regardless of how low Leonard's "trade value" is. With auctions, not only are there usually opening bids to set a floor on the price, but there's often a secret number the bidding has to reach in order for the object to get sold. A room full of bidders can't conspire to buy a yacht for a dollar. You don't want Philly to make a minimum bid. That's fine. But then they won't get Leonard. Simple as that.

Right! Philly has no leverage here in that Kawhi will either be traded somewhere else, stays in SA or he walks to one of the L.A. teams. I can't imagine Kawhi leaving this Philly squad with Simmons and Embiid and I'm sure Philly probably thinks this. They would be the most dangerous team in the East in my opinion so it would be insane to not include Fultz.

[Keepin' it real]

He traded yet?

[FireMicoHalili]

Yeah he represents Ayres and a couple of other players without teams. It's had really. This agent has a list of players. None of them signed on current teams EXCEPT Kawhi. You would think Kawhi Leonard who is a MVP type player with other awards understand his belt would have a more reputable and established agent.

Ayres, Dwayne Collins, Jarvis Varnado, Stephan Hicks, Joe Jackson, JJ O’Brien, Sir Dominique Pointier, Glen Rice Jr, Sylvester Seay, Kawhi Leonard. Quite clear why they’re trying to make Leonard a brand.

[dabom]

A limitless bonus to Leonard’s agent from the non-tampering Lakers of course.

Now Kawhis group can talk to Lakers group without anything looking su ious.

[FireMicoHalili]

And ya laker fans with players think they gonna amount to anything.

They’re so high on their young core but apparently are willing to part with them in a trade for Leonard. When they say young core I think they just mean Ball and Ingram since Hart and Kuzma are expendable while they just let Randle walk. I wonder how those kids feel knowing they were dangled for a trade this summer. Going to be interesting to see how Ball reacts in case Walton benches him in favor of Rondo.

[FireMicoHalili]

No i rate Fultz extremely highly. Funny how half this forum doesn't rate Fultz yet want him in deal with us.

Both Leonard and Fultz have what ifs dangling over their heads. How you view Fultz is probably how Spurs fans view Leonard, though Fultz is largely unproven. Most of us have seen what Leonard can do at his best, whereas Fultz has YouTube highlights I guess.

[FkLA]

Damn, I was wondering wtf Ayers was doing on the Lakers SL team at his age. Didn't know he had the same car agent as Kawhitter. It makes sense now smh.

[Killakobe81]

They’re so high on their young core but apparently are willing to part with them in a trade for Leonard. When they say young core I think they just mean Ball and Ingram since Hart and Kuzma are expendable while they just let Randle walk. I wonder how those kids feel knowing they were dangled for a trade this summer. Going to be interesting to see how Ball reacts in case Walton benches him in favor of Rondo.

Hart and Kuzma are not expendable.
Kuzma has been the face of the franchise in off season promotions and deemed untouchable by some sources close to the team. Hart less valuable but has shown encouraging improvement in SL.
Again I understand opinions/evaluations on our young core is unrealistic on LG but undervalued here.
I think Kuzma can be an elite 6th man or solid 5 starter. I think Hart can be a good combo guard as part of a bench rotation on a contender. And Ingram can be a high level #2.
THE worry is Lonzo. Even if he improves his shooting which I expect, he has been injured to often for a young guy...

[Mugen]

Hart and Kuzma are not expendable.
Kuzma has been the face of the franchise in off season promotions and deemed untouchable by some sources close to the team. Hart less valuable but has shown encouraging improvement in SL.
Again I understand opinions/evaluations on our young core is unrealistic on LG but undervalued here.
I think Kuzma can be an elite 6th man or solid 5 starter. I think Hart can be a good combo guard as part of a bench rotation on a contender. And Ingram can be a high level #2.THE worry is Lonzo. Even if he improves his shooting which I expect, he has been injured to often for a young guy...

[FkLA]

Kuzma face of the franchise

[Killakobe81]

Kuzma face of the franchise

I said in off season promos.
Obviously now that Bron has signed the world has changed but only so much. It was Kuzma on Area 21, First Take and Undisputed during the playoffs. Not Ingram or Lonzo. It was Kuzma who is doing meets with season ticket holders.
You guys think the King is gonna do Any of that?! Nor should hee expected to. Whether he deserves or or not Kuzmania is real. Lakers Fans especially the female ones have gravitated to Kyle.