Trump Pootin meeting set for July 16 - one day after world cup final

[Chris]

RonPaul that treasonous bas

Lock him up!

[djohn2oo8]

It really is fascinating to watch the tough "America First" President just completely sell out for the leader of a country whose total economy is smaller than Texas.

Also typical to hear nothing from any of the people who whined about President Obama's "apology tour" while the current President undermines his own intelligence community abroad.

they wanted Obama impeached for wearing a tan suit. Chris still thinks Obama can be impeached.

[ElNono]

Great day for Putin and even greatest for Russia... not since the Cold War they could stand toe to toe with America until today.

[clambake]

i thought donna looked and sounded like somebody that is sharing a stage with their abuser.

[Spurtacular]

No precedent for what happened today.

Thanks for confirming.

Now, explain that Uranium One you keep bringing up and running away from.

You explain to me how twenty percent of uranium to Putin < Hearing Putin's side of the story.

That's basically where you're at right now.

[Chris]

they wanted Obama impeached for wearing a tan suit. Chris still thinks Obama can be impeached.

doubledownjohn still believes Obama can't be impeached

[Spurtacular]

Who is "they"?

And no one would want to claim a dip that doesnt know how genocide works.

Sounds like you're worried about whether your chumpette membership was approved. Did you check the mail?

[clambake]

he looked afraid of that little russian.


good thing he dodged the draft.

[Pavlov]

You explain to me how twenty percent of uranium to Putin < Hearing Putin's side of the story.

That's basically where you're at right now.

You need to explain how that whole Uranium One thing worked, derp.

But you're going to run away from it.

Again.

lol

[pgardn]

i thought donna looked and sounded like somebody that is sharing a stage with their abuser.

Donna wanted it hard.
Big time.

[Pavlov]

doubledownjohn still believes Obama can't be impeached

Show me where in the Cons ution it says Obama can be impeached.

[Chris]

Show me where in the Cons ution it says Obama can be impeached.

The Cons ution allows only two penalties as a result of impeachment: removal from office, and being banned from holding future federal office.

Technically, it is probably the case that Congress could impeach a President who had left office in order to prevent them from holding future office in the Federal government. This would not only prevent a one-term president from returning to seek another term at a later time, but would prevent a former president from running for Congress or serving in the cabinet of a future president or as a federal judge or Supreme Court justice. However, it’s hard not to see this as a huge waste of Congress’s time.

If a former President committed wrongdoing that would justify impeachment even after they left office, they probably have also committed federal crimes that could be more easily prosecuted through the criminal justice system. Impeachment is not a criminal process; you cannot be sent to jail because you were impeached. So for Congress to bother going through the lengthy and contentious impeachment process instead of simply getting out of the way while the former president in question is prosecuted in criminal court would seem… well, like a waste of everyone’s time. And if there was not enough evidence for a criminal conviction, then it becomes even harder to understand why Congress would take this step. You cannot serve in the cabinet or as a federal judge without Senate confirmation, so any former president who had committed acts worthy of impeachment could easily be blocked by the Senate from holding such positions (and if you don’t have the votes in the Senate to block confirmation to an executive or judicial appointment, then you definitely do not have the 2/3 majority required in the Senate for conviction of impeachment charges.) As for elective office, well, that’s really up to the voters to decide, but someone whom Congress was prepared to impeach even though they are not actively in office would probably also be someone who was not very popular with the public (members of Congress are less likely to vote to impeach and convict someone if their own cons uents do not support their doing so.)

So there appears to be little practical value in this approach.

However, there is some precedent for the idea. In the 1870s, Ulysses S. Grant’s Secretary of War, William Belknap, was impeached on charges of corruption and bribery. He resigned his cabinet post before the House could actually vote to impeach him, but the House went ahead and impeached him anyway. There was a lengthy debate in the Senate over whether it had the power to put Belknap on trial for the charges brought by the House, since Belknap had resigned. In the end the trial went forward, but Belknap fell short of the 2/3 majority needed for conviction even though the evidence of his corruption was clear; most of the Senators who voted against conviction did so because they believed the Senate lacked jurisdiction to try him now that he was out of office. But the fact that he was impeached and put on trial after resigning nevertheless could serve as a precedent for doing so to someone else again in the future.

Like I said above, it would just be really hard to see what the point of it would be.

You're welcome.

You can go hunt down the specific part in the Cons ution and cite it if you want. I'm not going to go dig and do your research for you.

[DMX7]

Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT): "I trust the good work of our intelligence and law enforcement personnel who have sworn to protect the United States of America from enemies foreign and domestic."

[hater]

You're welcome.

You can go hunt down the specific part in the Cons ution and cite it if you want. I'm not going to go dig and do your research for you.

pavlov

[Spurtacular]

You need to explain how that whole Uranium One thing worked, derp.

But you're going to run away from it.

Again.

lol

I don't need to explain it. Your duality of realities is a farce. Did Hillary give twenty percent of our uranium to a tyrant or not. Try to make up your mind on this, would ya.

[Pavlov]

You're welcome.

You can go hunt down the specific part in the Cons ution and cite it if you want. I'm not going to go dig and do your research for you.

lol that's not the Cons ution, Chris.

You failed.

[Pavlov]

I don't need to explain it. Your duality of realities is a farce. Did Hillary give twenty percent of our uranium to a tyrant or not. Try to make up your mind on this, would ya.

So where is that Uranium right now, derp?

[Spurtacular]

So where is that Uranium right now, derp?

You know I don't do your little games.
If ya got a point, make it.

[Pavlov]

You know I don't do your little games.
If ya got a point, make it.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

That's my point.

[Spurtacular]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

That's my point.

Putin evil, except when he's not. That's your point.

[Pavlov]

Putin evil, except when he's not. That's your point.

No, you keep bringing up Uranium One and yourself every time I ask you about it.

[Spurtacular]

No, you keep bringing up Uranium One and yourself every time I ask you about it.

Hillary approved it. You haven't and can't explain how Trump has done something worse.

[Pavlov]

Hillary approved it. You haven't and can't explain how Trump has done something worse.

Trump has done nothing about the Uranium One deal.

Nothing.

That must be worse, right?

[Spurtacular]

Trump has done nothing about the Uranium One deal.

Nothing.

That must be worse, right?

So, you're mad that he hasn't fixed Hillary's blunder?

[Pavlov]

So, you're mad that he hasn't fixed Hillary's blunder?

You're going to have to explain why it is such a terrible disaster, derp.

Go right ahead.