Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[marinoman]

LOL.

You guys who would sit Kawhi on the bench (not him sitting himself) so that he walks next season without either 1) playing for us so that we can make a playoff push 2) playing for us so teams see he's healthy, allowing us to get someone to gut their team are the real anti-fans here.

I'm no Clippers fan, LOL. I'm just reading the market. Right in this thread we've seen the en lement of the Lakers and Sixers organizations. Deng/Zubac/Wagner or Bayless/Chandler/2021 Heat pick. Disgusting.

You guys don't get it. Just because a team may have the best assets doesn't mean that that's the team that will get us the best offer!

Ridiculous.

If the trades offered are , like the ones you mentioned, then keep him. If he plays or doesn’t play his choice, but for his sake he should play. And no kid gloves, play him back to back, play him 40+ minutes, no reason to save his minutes for later

[Fusternino]

They also don't wanna trade Kawhi for middling players that do nothing to move the needle towards contention or bad contracts that hurt future capspace/flexibility.

Jerome Robinson is on a 4 year cheap rookie deal. He completes the youth rebuild at the 1/2. Harrell will also be on a long cheap contract (not enough money to go around this summer) and he's a defensive genius guarding the 3/4/small ball 5. He's hard working and I bet we could get him to improve his FT% and to hit the corner 3. Trust the coaching staff. All three of the 2021, 2023, and 2025 first round picks will be 4 year long cheap rookie deals. Tobias Harris is an efficient scorer who can guard both forward positions. Is he only an average defender? Right now, yes. Do I think he can buy into Pop's system and become a better defender? Absolutely. He's bounced around from team to team and wants to finally BELONG to somewhere. He's a year younger than Kawhi too. Again, trust the coaching staff.

[17505]

Jerome Robinson is on a 4 year cheap rookie deal. He completes the youth rebuild at the 1/2. Harrell will also be on a long cheap contract (not enough money to go around this summer) and he's a defensive genius guarding the 3/4/small ball 5. He's hard working and I bet we could get him to improve his FT% and to hit the corner 3. Trust the coaching staff. All three of the 2021, 2023, and 2025 first round picks will be 4 year long cheap rookie deals. Tobias Harris is an efficient scorer who can guard both forward positions. Is he only an average defender? Right now, yes. Do I think he can buy into Pop's system and become a better defender? Absolutely. He's bounced around from team to team and wants to finally BELONG to somewhere. He's a year younger than Kawhi too. Again, trust the coaching staff.

FOUR 1st round picks (including Robinson) for a guy who is an expiring contract, and one who has baggage at that? They would be lucky to get Harris, one of SGA/Robinson, and one future 1st.

[Mr. Body]

LOL.

You guys who would sit Kawhi on the bench (not him sitting himself) so that he walks next season without either 1) playing for us so that we can make a playoff push 2) playing for us so teams see he's healthy, allowing us to get someone to gut their team are the real anti-fans here.

I'm no Clippers fan, LOL. I'm just reading the market. Right in this thread we've seen the en lement of the Lakers and Sixers organizations. Deng/Zubac/Wagner or Bayless/Chandler/2021 Heat pick. Disgusting.

You guys don't get it. Just because a team may have the best assets doesn't mean that that's the team that will get us the best offer!

Ridiculous.

If the offers are bad, the best play would be just play Kawhi or let him rot and take the cap space.

[Fusternino]

It's about Ingram's age (still just 20) and what he could become. It's a projection, sure. But he got much better after his rookie year, and he certainly has his admirers on the national scene, including from the folks at The Ringer. He's still on his rookie deal, while Covington is already making more than $10MM and has a limited offensive game, while Saric is at the end of his rookie deal (so he needs to get paid a year earlier than Ingram) and doesn't have Ingram's ceiling as a player, though I do like him as a player and think the Spurs would like having him if he came with, say, Fultz too. If the Spurs are trading Kawhi, my feeling is that they would be looking to try to acquire at least one young player with major potential. That theoretical Sixers offer would just be ho-hum if it doesn't include Fultz. Doesn't really get the Spurs anywhere. At least Anunoby has potential if they do the Raptors deal. Ditto SGA with the Clippers.

As for Murray, I'd be a hypocrite if I said I wasn't a fan, because I'm a big Lonzo fan, due to the defense.

Lonzo will probably end up being a slightly better Rubio. Again, nothing to scoff at. There's nothing wrong with being a top 50-100 player. Lonzo and Murray are very similar right now. Can't shoot the 3, only finishing move the rim is an awkward floater. Great defenders and rebounders, especially for their position. Murray is probably slightly better overall in these areas (shooting/finishing in the paint/defense/rebounding) but Lonzo absolutely crushes him on the you know actually being a passing point guard part. I don't think the passing part can be taught. Maybe Lonzo should've been a ~10 pick and Murray ~15 pick.

[Mr. Body]

FOUR 1st round picks (including Robinson) for a guy who is an expiring contract, and one who has baggage at that? They would be lucky to get Harris, one of SGA/Robinson, and one future 1st.

Is this inside information, too? Or another butt-pull?

[RsxPiimp]

no need to trade for kiwi at this point tbh. he could simply bolt ala dwight next season. i’d wait and risk FA next year, if he ain’t coming then the lakers was never his preferred choice. also, i’d hate to acquire kiwi via trade with the way things are going on in san antonio. that aint right, if he can do this to a classy organization that vested time and all their resources to help him become the player he is, then you simply cant trust a dude like this. personally, i feel like there are boundaries and ethics when conducting a business, this imo should apply to all levels.


KL is great but there are a lot of moving parts that could elevate the lakers via trade with another player(s) or through FA.

[RsxPiimp]

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[Mr. Body]

Lonzo will probably end up being a slightly better Rubio. Again, nothing to scoff at. There's nothing wrong with being a top 50-100 player. Lonzo and Murray are very similar right now. Can't shoot the 3, only finishing move the rim is an awkward floater. Great defenders and rebounders, especially for their position. Murray is probably slightly better overall in these areas (shooting/finishing in the paint/defense/rebounding) but Lonzo absolutely crushes him on the you know actually being a passing point guard part. I don't think the passing part can be taught. Maybe Lonzo should've been a ~10 pick and Murray ~15 pick.

Lonzo is a far better passer. Murray will probably become a better shooter. Lonzo will always be much more expensive, and damage team chemistry with his baggage. I see LeBron wanting to get rid of him and his dad, so his days are numbered. Once he's out of LA, he begins to rot.

[Fusternino]

FOUR 1st round picks (including Robinson) for a guy who is an expiring contract, and one who has baggage at that? They would be lucky to get Harris, one of SGA/Robinson, and one future 1st.

The trick is that Kawhi wants LA and wants to sign a max contract there . . . and what you're forgetting is there's another team in town. And Jerry West is willing (unlike the king of en lement and tampering, Magic) to get together a package that would get Kawhi. If Kawhi is traded for something that's not befitting of him . . . he's not going to be too happy.

[Robz4000]

Jerome Robinson is on a 4 year cheap rookie deal. He completes the youth rebuild at the 1/2. Harrell will also be on a long cheap contract (not enough money to go around this summer) and he's a defensive genius guarding the 3/4/small ball 5. He's hard working and I bet we could get him to improve his FT% and to hit the corner 3. Trust the coaching staff. All three of the 2021, 2023, and 2025 first round picks will be 4 year long cheap rookie deals. Tobias Harris is an efficient scorer who can guard both forward positions. Is he only an average defender? Right now, yes. Do I think he can buy into Pop's system and become a better defender? Absolutely. He's bounced around from team to team and wants to finally BELONG to somewhere. He's a year younger than Kawhi too. Again, trust the coaching staff.

Yeah, you're a Clippers fan alright...

[Payote75]

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumor...s-star-client/


this dude is shady asf. Has the nerve to use this mute to further his own agenda. Actually has had the nerve to approach other stars. What star in their right mind would see how this is being handled and say "yea sign me up with your tutor time company" This all while nephew just sits there like a and lets him ruin what might possibly could have been and maybe has been the best relationship in his life/career.
other player have a mouth how in the world would these clowns handle other clients but I don't think there is anything to worry about there cause I don't think uncle Robbie will be seeing too many clients!!!!! Dumb s!!!!

[Fusternino]

Lonzo is a far better passer. Murray will probably become a better shooter. Lonzo will always be much more expensive, and damage team chemistry with his baggage. I see LeBron wanting to get rid of him and his dad, so his days are numbered. Once he's out of LA, he begins to rot.

In other words, the Lakers trade away two PGs drafted in the top 5 within a year of each other.

LOL.

[Mr. Body]

In other words, the Lakers trade away two PGs drafted in the top 5 within a year of each other.

LOL.

There were indications they were shopping Lonzo to get rid of the Deng contract, but then Ball daddy dropped the info about his injury. I can't think LeBron/Lakers brass are happy with him right now. I think he's gone before the end of the season. Luke Walton, too, btw.

[Fusternino]

Honestly, pretty convinced there's some mob business going on. Where did that $10M come from? Mitch Frankel wants his basketball clients to also invest in real estate. What?

Honestly, if I'm Peter Holt I wash my hands of Kawhi just for my own personal safety.

[marinoman]

no need to trade for kiwi at this point tbh. he could simply bolt ala dwight next season. i’d wait and risk FA next year, if he ain’t coming then the lakers was never his preferred choice. also, i’d hate to acquire kiwi via trade with the way things are going on in san antonio. that aint right, if he can do this to a classy organization that vested time and all their resources to help him become the player he is, then you simply cant trust a dude like this. personally, i feel like there are boundaries and ethics when conducting a business, this imo should apply to all levels.


KL is great but there are a lot of moving parts that could elevate the lakers via trade with another player(s) or through FA.

Let’s trade Apo to the Lakers for this guy

Great post

[DPG21920]

I get why LA would do what they do. But the only thing that annoys me about most LA fans is acting like Klay or Jimmy are on the same level as kawhi.

I get thinking you would risk losing Kawhi to sign one of those guys while keeping the young guys, but let’s not act like LA would be better off with those dudes over Kawhi or even just as good.

[Fusternino]

There were indications they were shopping Lonzo to get rid of the Deng contract, but then Ball daddy dropped the info about his injury. I can't think LeBron/Lakers brass are happy with him right now. I think he's gone before the end of the season. Luke Walton, too, btw.

Walton is definitely gone and Lonzo is probably enough to some team to take on Deng's contract. His own contract isn't cheap though. That's like in total a $25M cap hit?

Wonder who LeGM will bring in as the new coach?

[Mr. Body]

Walton is definitely gone and Lonzo is probably enough to some team to take on Deng's contract. His own contract isn't cheap though. That's like in total a $25M cap hit?

Wonder who LeGM will bring in as the new coach?

Lue. Magic himself. It doesn't matter, LeBron doesn't expect to compete with this gang of purple and piss clowns, anyway.

[Fusternino]

I get why LA would do what they do. But the only thing that annoys me about most LA fans is acting like Klay or Jimmy are on the same level as kawhi.

I get thinking you would risk losing Kawhi to sign one of those guys while keeping the young guys, but let’s not act like LA would be better off with those dudes over Kawhi or even just as good.

I think the idea with signing Klay is to also hurt GSW at the same time, which would be a net effect greater than just getting Kawhi.

[17505]

In other words, the Lakers trade away two PGs drafted in the top 5 within a year of each other.

LOL.

LaVar Ball is not really a big deal to Laker management. Yeah, it's a nuisance, but, as Ramona Shelburne reported after he signed, LeBron considers LaVar to be nothing more than a gnat crashing into the windshield. Of more concern to the Lakers is Lonzo's knee.

I think that comparison of Lonzo to Rubio is fair. My feeling is that Lonzo's floor is what Rubio looks like right now, and that's a pretty nice player. Lonzo had a 29-game stretch where he shot 39% from 3, and statistically, he was a top-30 player in the NBA for those games. It just shows how good he could be if he can shoot it even just OK. The worry I have with him is that his shot mechanics are different on his 3-pointer, on his free throw, and when he actually takes a pull-up in the mid-range. He's just such a unique player, who racks up assists even on a low usage rate. But he'll always defend, pass, and rebound, and he should be a good player if his health cooperates.

[Mr. Body]

Honestly, pretty convinced there's some mob business going on. Where did that $10M come from? Mitch Frankel wants his basketball clients to also invest in real estate. What?

Honestly, if I'm Peter Holt I wash my hands of Kawhi just for my own personal safety.

There's some Trumper in there, too. Just a horrible crew of people. Poor Kawhi. No one in his family loves him.

[Gordonicci]

Let’s trade Apo to the Lakers for this guy

Great post

We'd have to attach an Aunt and a pharmacology degree to get that deal done.

[Mr. Body]

LaVar Ball is not really a big deal to Laker management. Yeah, it's a nuisance, but, as Ramona Shelburne reported after he signed, LeBron considers LaVar to be nothing more than a gnat crashing into the windshield. Of more concern to the Lakers is Lonzo's knee.

I realize you are Magic's personal manservant and are privy to all the juicy accurate details of what the Lakers will do, but respectfully you don't know crap about how LeBron works. LeBron and LaVar don't mix. The Lakers have been goofy burnt driftwood for five years and Lonzo's dumb family has contributed to the last part of it. LeBron has horrible taste in players and is a terrible co-GM, but he does know lockerroom chemistry.

[DPG21920]

I don’t know why people are giving the laker fan trouble. Not like that person is saying outlandish things..