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Ramona Shelburne, mouthpiece of the Lakers Ramona Shelburne?
Ramona Shelburne is not one of the idiot reporters, and she reported that LeBron doesn't care about him. LeBron is a definite fan of Lonzo's game, rightly or wrongly. He's not going to care about his loudmouth father. Again, of far more concern to the Lakers is his health. It's not a coincidence that they moved so quickly to sign Rondo, who has a similar playing style to Lonzo (though Rondo is no longer a good defender). And the proof that LeBron likes Lonzo's game is that they turned around and signed Rondo.
Ramona Shelburne, mouthpiece of the Lakers Ramona Shelburne?
LaVar Ball is 100 times less worse than Uncle Dennis. At least he will be direct in his communication, even if what he says is outlandish. I think he's a good man too. He's a trash-talker sure but he's educated, a good father and husband, and really applies himself to making his ideas become a reality. He would be a good role model to young men of any race. Culturally, I like some of the things he is doing with the JBA/BBB although I don't think they will succeed or at least not for 5-10 years.
That said, he really needs to stop commenting on any coaches/players currently on Lakers roster.
The point is that she got it from LeBron, WHO IS ON THE LAKERS. I'm not sure why you are picking a fight with everything I say. Woj mouthpieces on multiple sides. The reporters who break big news, they have to mouthpiece. It's a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" business.Ramona Shelburne, mouthpiece of the Lakers Ramona Shelburne?
Y'all are sending up the RD2191 signal talking about Big Mona.
Ha, she was very wise to attach herself to Jeanie during the ownership squabble.
Because you are full of and I hate your ing franchise. Shelburne is paid to paper over everything the Lakers do and make it look pretty. Why you fail to understand this, I don't know. See ya when Lonzo gets dumped later in the season.
agreed. Another reason I would hold off I have never supported him sitting out of and its a big if he is healthy. Also don't condone his silence
Because he’s a summer league MVP being traded for the Spurs’ best player? Then I suppose last year Kyle Anderson, Bertans, and a first round pick would have sufficed for, hmm, who was your best player, Brandon Ingram? I suppose that’s fine since Anderson was Summer League MVP and Bertans is a decent shooter with more experience than Wagner. If you don’t think that’s fair then you understand why most Spurs fans think it’s better the Lakers keep Hart and Kuzma.
Some of them have been respected posters here but man these guys pop up like mushrooms once they get their hands on a star. Past five years must have been difficult for a team flush with money and significant young assets but without a lot of results. FkLA was right, total opposite of what the Spurs stand for.
What would the Lakers be willing to trade Ingram for, say, with another team?
Leonard’s team of advisers — including his agent, Mitch Frankel, and his uncle and business manager, Dennis Robertson — reportedly believes the league’s most low-key superstar can over time make up the financial difference in endorsement money and a new shoe deal if he moves to a higher-profile market.
– via San Antonio Express-News
This just pisses me off, I mean Paul George, Damian Lillard, all have shoe deals while playing in small markets. Kawhi is better than both those players, Kawhi’s personality is what keeps him from being marketable, I don’t want this bull excuse that San Antonio is the reason he can’t get more endorsements. I don’t buy it.
I think that the Lakers might listen on Ingram, but I think they would want either a non-expiring star player back, or, if it was a star player on an expiring (let's just use Jimmy Butler as an example), I think they would need strong assurances that such a player would be very likely to re-sign. I don't think that they have such assurances from Kawhi. Again, it is my belief that Uncle Dennis prefers the Clippers to the Lakers. (I think his logic is misguided, surprise surprise, but that's what I believe.) At this point, I just think that the Lakers will go into the season with all the young kids and LeBron (and the veteran signings they did make, though I don't think Lance and McGee will play much), and then perhaps reassess things after Dec. 15. They think they are in good position to sign a star player next year in free agency, and there's something to be said for a strategy of keeping all the young guys and then adding a star next year. It might be the best long-term play to try to beat the Warriors next season. I understand the logic of thinking that LeBron isn't going to be in his prime forever, but that has to be weighed against how strong the team might be next year if they keep everyone. Especially if LeBron is OK with that, I mean, they have no reason to force things.
For what it's worth, I think Butler is the player most likely to end up on the Lakers by the start of next season.
Bit iffy on your information or sources but otherwise I like the levelheadedness of the takes and the mastery of the team composition. I think the only facts we can assume: (1) Leonard wants to be traded; (2) he’s on a one-year rental; (3) health is questionable; (4) he hasn’t been extended; (5) easily a top 5 player when healthy; (6) hasn’t spoken since to the media; (7) the former agent is embroiled in a court battle where the pleading (available online) states the uncle and the mom received payments from his agency. Everything else from “sources” is white noise, especially topics as to where he wants to end up or the projected trade partners and packages. His preference as to destination, should the Lakers make a play, likely wouldn’t matter since there are conflicting reports (yours and Woj’s, saying he wants to be a Laker). As for the Lakers, they’re in a fiscally great position next year and have a handful of decent young players. Given everything sans the controversial points the Spurs are justified in asking for, as most reports say, “the farm”. Trade packages put together by fans are made in consideration of the news they consume, which more or less are cherry picked to suit a narrative. No one has even put together a totality of all the news surrounding Leonard.
So no estimates as to Ingram’s worth? Any examples? If Kawhi re-signs and is dealt next year (contract is locked, health is fine), would that be a fair trade for Ingram and all the spare parts the Lakers offer? Would the Lakers be okay parting with Ingram, Kuzma, and a pick for, say, DeRozan, who is locked to a long term contract and was part of the nucleus of the best regular season team in the East?
I agree but his people have convinced him it’s the small market even though Westbrook commercials are always on even though he plays in okc. Also they prolly convinced him that he didn’t injure himself in china hiking, he reaggravated an injury the spurs doctors misdiagnosed even though its obvious that although it doesn’t require any surgery, and required 7-8 doctors to find one good one, it’s clearly career and life threatening
Seconded.
Well it's not just my own idea that Uncle Dennis prefers the Clippers; Michael Wright said it before I did. I just think it makes sense, because the Lakers were definitely offering much more than they currently are. And hey, maybe LeBron just told them he really likes the young dudes and doesn't want them to give up anyone. But I think it's more likely that something had to change in order for the Lakers to drastically lower their offers, and perhaps that thing was that the Lakers know that Uncle Dennis prefers the Clippers. Just a theory, admittedly, but I don't think it's without logic.
I don't think the Lakers would have any interest in DeRozan. I think they are aiming higher. He's an All-Star, but he doesn't really have a 3-ball, he's not a good defender, and his playoff career has been brutally abysmal.
If I knew that Kawhi would re-sign and was healthy, yes, I would give him Ingram up for him. Easily. A healthy Kawhi is that good. I never would give up both Ingram and Ball in a trade for an expiring player, however, and certainly not one with baggage. But one of them? Yeah, probably, if I knew he'd re-sign and was healthy. In the case of a Kawhi trade, Lonzo isn't on the table anyway (the Spurs don't want him), so that's moot. I should also point out that Kuzma is really highly regarded by Laker management, in large part because he's on a super-cheap rookie deal for 3 more years and in part because he's unafraid of the moment, and he seems like he'd be a great fit playing with LeBron because of the way he can score the ball in different ways.
When the Lakers still had cap space, I was probably willing to offer something like Ingram and a 1st and, at most, Wagner. (Ancillary stuff like 2nd rounders, Zubac, and Bonga could've been on the table, too.) Of course now, the calculus has changed considerably, and I doubt that the Spurs have the stomach to take Deng, even if Ingram were included. However, if a 3rd team were added and if the Spurs took on expiring contracts instead of Deng, perhaps it would be palatable to them. Something like Deng going to the Hawks and Dedmon and Muscala going to the Spurs works in the trade machine.
I really don't think he ends up with the Lakers, though. With the rumors of the discord in the T'Wolves locker room with Butler and the young guys, and with Butler turning down their extension offer (no surprise there), and with Butler having been unhappy at the deal to Minnesota in the first place, it wouldn't surprise me if they move Butler before the start of the season. If you're Minnesota, would you take something like Ingram, Deng, a 1st rounder, and more ancillary pieces for Butler? Keep in mind that Deng is a Thibs favorite and he would probably get PT there lol.
Do you trust Plaschke? Cause he said most of the Lakers front office are ready to move on from him.
1. His father, of course.
2. But also because he didn't stand up for Luke more forcefully when his dad threw shade at him.
3. Final blow was this leak to prevent/disrupt a possible trade negotiation.
His reporting. He's as connected to the Lakers as any reporter.
Translation. He is most likely gone unless by some miracle, Bron saves him.
I think we should not let that sort of trauma befall Deng, LOL.
No. Plaschke doesn't have strong sources with the Lakers. He's just a talking head. That said, I do agree that the Lakers were very unhappy that the info about his knee was leaked. They did not want that to happen. Not necessarily because they were looking to move him--they genuinely do think he has tremendous promise as a player and LeBron absolutely likes his game--but because nothing good can come of it, and it undermines management.
I don't think it's completely out of the question that the Lakers could eventually move him; I mean, they were willing to move D'Angelo Russell once upon a time. (A move that looks brilliant in hindsight, by the way.) But in this case, they aren't going to move Lonzo just to dump Deng. They don't have to. They can get another max player next year simply by stretching Deng or, more likely, they can move him as an expiring next summer if they want to create even more cap space. But would they move Lonzo for an All-Star? I wouldn't completely rule it out.
Hey, he might be 50, but he's well-rested!
17505 is the zip code of a massive toilet in Pennsylvania.
The Lakers already were shopping Lonzo. That's why Lavar dumped the injury news.
it’s difficult to measure potential- at 20 far from a finished product. ingram seems to check a few boxes. his ability to run an offense and willingness to defend looks promising. his efficiency is encouraging and by all accounts, he seems to be a good kid with a strong work ethic.
but he’s also not a phenom like ben simmons. for a college player known for his shooting, his jumpshot is shaky. his lateral movement is akward and his conditioning needs work. like any player, if he can overcome his mental limitations, he could breakthrough. it’s a big if though.
his statistics isn’t impressive so i feel like the lakers are simply banking on his long term trajectory and work habits at this point, nothing else.
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