Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

I'll believe it when I see it. Derozan is one of my least favorite players in the league but I'll take any deal right now so I don't have to listen to that Cris Carter or any other talking head mention the Spurs again.

To be fair, Windhorst is the one that described the offer "compelling", not anybody from the Spurs' camp. For all we know, offer could have been Lowry + steak sandwich considerations that got his ears all perked up...

Sure but everyone here owes M4T and Mo an apology IMO. They two times before national media talked about it called TOR conversataions happening and from what I have heard there is a LEGIT possiblity a deal gets done.

There are some factors (SA with a solid offer now has more leverage to go back to other teams, risk of teams seeing Kawhi in Vegas and upping their offers which is motivating TOR, etc..) and they were close before, but it seems pretty damn close now.

[iGetbuckets]

Been trying to tell y'all, but apparently I'm trolling.

Do you have an idea what players Toronto is offering?

[vander]

If Kawhi is moved somewhere other than LA, I will hold off on calling LA idiots until after next free agency. But if they let that happen and Kawhi does not choose them in free agency, wow, what a huge mistake potentially.

Also it will be hilarious watching Kawhi walk to LA if he does go for so much less money potentially.

does Kawhi still want to go to the Lakers? I thought people were saying that he didn't want to go there with Lebron there now

[RD2191]

I'll believe it when I see it. Derozan is one of my least favorite players in the league but I'll take any deal right now so I don't have to listen to that Cris Carter or any other talking head mention the Spurs again.

To be fair, Windhorst is the one that described the offer "compelling", not anybody from the Spurs' camp. For all we know, offer could have been Lowry + steak sandwich considerations that got his ears all perked up...

[NASpurs]

[DPG21920]

It could be as simple as the Lakers not believing he would re-sign with them if they traded for him. I know Woj put it out there today that he still wants the Lakers, but this directly refutes what Michael Wright said on that podcast over a couple of weeks ago, and it's also curious that it seems like the Lakers pulled back on their offers around that same time. I'll say this: if Kawhi is healthy and would be a lock to re-up with the Lakers, I think they are making a big mistake by not offering Ingram, if that is indeed the case.

I don’t think there is any chance in that if Kawhi was moved to the Lakers that he bolts for the Clippers. Nothing has been said that Clippers are so far the favorites that Kawhi would leave money on the table to walk to LAC.

[loveforthegame]

When’s the earliest Kawhi can be flipped? It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Raptors trade him to LA asap.

[spursistan]

I heard Danny Green would be a part of this potential deal with Toronto. If it goes down like that I'm not sure I'm happy about that. He's still pretty good on defense and his contract comes off the books after this next season. I'd prefer Mills be included. However, if they are receiving OG as part of the deal then I guess that would make up for Danny being traded away.

You might as well drop the "I heard" part. You are not relaying any specific information with multiple instances of guesswork in the post above (If..i prefer..etc).

That's just random trade package speculation everyone one of us is dabbling in right now..

[RD2191]

Do you have an idea what players Toronto is offering?

No, because he's full of . Windhorst will have dinner tonight. See, I can break news too.

[17505]

If you have White who is an excellent 3 point shooter, Bertans and Beli too I don’t see it being crazy.

Put it this way, SA should overall be slightly better at 3 than last year but you add DeMar’s scoring over Kyle’s. It won’t be a top offense for sure, but it’s wayyyyy better shooting than LA has and should be a top 10 offense IMO.

The defense is the bigger question mark as swapping Kyle for DeMar is a downgrade there. I dont’ think DeMar has it in him to be a plus defender.

But let’s say the most common lineup would be:

Murray/White/DeRozan/Bertans/LMA - not incredible shooting, but enough. Even more if you put Mills in for Murray.

If this trade goes down, is it possible at all that the Spurs could flip DeRozan within a year? I mean, is he really getting you anywhere? Yeah, the Spurs will stay afloat in the playoff chase with him and with the other players y'all have, but if the goal is championships, with him taking up that much cap space, is he helping you towards that goal? Is there a case to be made that after getting OG, it might make more sense to cash in on DeRozan and get more assets? Just thinking out loud here.

[DPG21920]

I'm saying, given all that's transpired, that day was irrelevant and therefore unlikely to have any bearing on the trade discussions.

At this point, I'd imagine the Spurs want to at least wait out the U.S. camp, see if they can gain any traction with him. It's also somewhat of an opportunity for teams to gauge his health or at least pulse.

Obviously things could change in nearly a year, but at this writing, Leonard being traded anywhere but the 76ers (or Clippers, but they were never a viable option), is a win for the Lakers.

We will see which is why I said I would hold off, but I’m telling you I feel Kawhi is mad at the Lakers. If they force him, when they CLEARLY have the assets to trade for him to move for a year, play in Canada, risk injury and take less money? I am going on record saying I think the bridge is burned like PG.

[Holden_Caulfield]

My hot wife is better for that
She is a ten!

Pm me the nudes

[DPG21920]

does Kawhi still want to go to the Lakers? I thought people were saying that he didn't want to go there with Lebron there now

They said he wants LA period. Whether it’s Clips or Lakers, but Clips might have an edge due to Lebron/circus. But that he would still love Lakers.

[ducks]

spurs could rebuild and trade DeRozan and lma for younger stars yes

[monkeypunk]

She believes in the bill of rights and cons ution
Like me

Both have voted for democracts and republicans

That's great but who you support is wiping his ass with both. Just fyi, imo, tbh

[Rocalcio]

The comments do your thing ST

Is that his wife ?! Damn, I understand why he’s such a pain in the ass and why he wants so badly to enjoy the nephew’s money...

[rastaspur]

I just got on 4protocols twitter and called incle dennis a down syndrome version of lavar ball. I did my part and will be blocked. I think my twitter handle is "bill clinton's soggy cigar"

[Mugen]

Sure but everyone here owes M4T and Mo an apology IMO. They two times before national media talked about it called TOR conversataions happening and from what I have heard there is a LEGIT possiblity a deal gets done.

There are some factors (SA with a solid offer now has more leverage to go back to other teams, risk of teams seeing Kawhi in Vegas and upping their offers which is motivating TOR, etc..) and they were close before, but it seems pretty damn close now.

I don't think it's close and I doubt it happens and I doubt any of those guys have inside knowledge about it since I'm not sure even the front office knows what they're doing. It really doesn't make sense from the Raptors perspective unless the offer is a lot less compelling than what we actually think it is...and if that's the case then it doesn't really make sense from the Spurs perspective.

If it happens, sure I'll give credit where credit is due.

[LkrFan]

Hart played phenomenal. I was saying Derrick played amazing too and it would be silly to say he won’t be included in a deal for a star. That was all. I like Hart.

Just messing witcha. Agreed.

I love our kids, even though most of ST be hating.

I want a star, but I am genuinely curious to see the growth our kids will have playing with the best player in the game. I think we are gonna shock some people. Peep these interesting stats from our 47 losses last year:

- 26 losses by < 10 points
- 13 losses by < 7 points
- 7 losses by < 4 points
- 4 losses by < 3 points

All this without a star who could close for us. Now the kids have a year under their belt and in Luke's offense. Like Tatum and Brown, now Kuz and Ingram get to play off of a star. All that attention LBJ will get? Our young guns have an opportunity to make strides.

We beat several playoff teams last year with the youngest roster in the league. Maginka is wise to not give up the farm (yet). Trade deadline might be another matter tho

[DPG21920]

If this trade goes down, is it possible at all that the Spurs could flip DeRozan within a year? I mean, is he really getting you anywhere? Yeah, the Spurs will stay afloat in the playoff chase with him and with the other players y'all have, but if the goal is championships, with him taking up that much cap space, is he helping you towards that goal? Is there a case to be made that after getting OG, it might make more sense to cash in on DeRozan and get more assets? Just thinking out loud here.

That is like saying would La flip Lebron in a year? They very obviously aren’t better then even the Spurs with DeRozan/LMA and if the goal is les, what is Lebron and a bunch of Rondo/McGee and medicore young guys going to do?

SA will be a top 4 team in the West getting White in for TP, Beli in for Manu and DeRozan in for Kyle if this goes down. They IMO will be number 2 or right even with HOU/OKC/UTA. If GS slips up, then SA is right there and still has a path in the near future to some wiggle room.

But sure, I think if it’s awful and not a good fit, LMA and/or DeRozan can get moved. I think SA is 1) trying to win as much as possible and since there are only so many “stars” you can’t always get perfect fit and 2) asset ac ulation which DeRozan is.

[Spurs da champs]

Is that his wife ?! Damn, I understand why he’s such a pain in the ass and why he wants so badly to enjoy the nephew’s money...

[rastaspur]

Is that his wife ?! Damn, I understand why he’s such a pain in the ass and why he wants so badly to enjoy the nephew’s money...

I see why he is trying to get that paper. I cant 8magine how much a plane ticket is going to cost to send that wookie back to planet indour (spelling?)

[slick'81]

Been trying to tell y'all, but apparently I'm trolling.

keep up the good work broski

[DPG21920]

I don't think it's close and I doubt it happens and I doubt any of those guys have inside knowledge about it since I'm not sure even the front office knows what they're doing. It really doesn't make sense from the Raptors perspective unless the offer is a lot less compelling than what we actually think it is...and if that's the case then it doesn't really make sense from the Spurs perspective.

If it happens, sure I'll give credit where credit is due.

You stingy as . They do know something and were told by their sources which is why they told us BEFORE any news broke. Deals come and go all the time; they were not saying it’s 100% done, but they obviously know someone because this isn’t just BS. It’s legit confirmed by multiple people that TOR and SA are talking and they said it BEFORE that.

The FO does know what they are doing but two things: 1) They were put in a sh*t situation and are having to react calmly and as best as possible & 2) Their objectives may not align with our wishes. I firmly believe they want to stay compe ive. They would only bottom out and rebuild if that is what they were forced to do and that coincided with their best offers.

But getting an all-star, even a bottom tier all-star is their priority whether we like it or not (I am ok with it knowing I like watching a team win vs suck, as long as they get a young piece and/or a pick too).

[RD2191]

I see why he is trying to get that paper. I cant 8magine how much a plane ticket is going to cost to send that wookie back to planet indour (spelling?)

Endor you uncultured swine. And wookiees are from Kashyyyk, not Endor.