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    Is this a done deal, tbh?
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    The idea that KL will not sign long term with Toronto is an idea that is flawed. The true reason KL is in this situation is that his uncle wants to become big time in marketing. When he realizes he has a better chance to do that in Toronto extending globally, LA will be a distant memory.

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    A team like Utah would eat the Lakers for breakfast.
    If you say so. I'll say their records and performances in playoffs will be compe ively similar.

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    The idea that KL will not sign long term with Toronto is an idea that is flawed. The true reason KL is in this situation is that his uncle wants to become big time in marketing. When he realizes he has a better chance to do that in Toronto extending globally, LA will be a distant memory.
    I wish I shared your enthusiasm, but I'm pretty sure Kawhi is a Los Angeles Laker next summer, tbh.

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    If Valencuinous is the center piece and not Derozan then this would be a worse trade. In today’s NBA he isn’t as valuable. Might as well throw a filler at Okafor and see what he can do and he is much cheaper
    Right, but this trade is more in line with the actual Spurs ...remember that LMA likes to play as second big but he's unplayable with Pau. Valenciunas (or Ibaka) and Poeltl (or Siakam) at least can move themselves better on defense (and all 4 are good rebounders and shot blockers).
    The only player that with time can take a similar Kiwhi role is Og, and that's the only player (not DDR) that makes the deal reasonable...plus the 2 first round choices.

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    please let there be a third to team for demar to be shipped to.

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    If you say so. I'll say their records and performances in playoffs will be compe ively similar.
    One hand, you have a nice, tough-ass defensive team that has already been in the playoffs. Other, you have a ty-ass Lakers team without any direction with a bored LeBron slapped on. You're not taking Utah? You're dumb.

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    I'd take DeRozan and OG in a heartbeat. Anything on top of that (picks or other assets) would be gravy tbh. Not the biggest DeRozan fan, but at this point it's the best the Spurs can get. An all-star scorer to keep the team compe ive for Pop's last years and a prospect with good potential that actually fills a positional need.

    As surprised as I am that the Raptors seem to be going all in for Kawhi, it does make some sense. With LeBron gone, they've got a realistic shot at getting to the Finals. Maybe Masai has given up on the Lowry-DeRozan duo and just wants to dump one of their large contracts. Replacing one of them with Kawhi only makes them better (if Kawhi is 100%). If he bolts in FA, then they get to rebuild. Curious to know how much they are actually willing to give.

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    Basically everything I've been saying. The Raptors have been sitting on this. They actually backed out initially as I stated because of health concerns. Brian Windhorst indicates the same thing around 1:00 mark of that clip. The Spurs front office felt that even after the Raptors backed out, the Raptors might still comeback and wanna do the trade.

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    The idea that KL will not sign long term with Toronto is an idea that is flawed. The true reason KL is in this situation is that his uncle wants to become big time in marketing. When he realizes he has a better chance to do that in Toronto extending globally, LA will be a distant memory.

    This is what I don't understand with Uncle Dennis' thinking if he thinks Kawhi will be in LeBron's shadow with the Lakers. The Lakers are gigantic globally, and the Clippers barely register a blip in Southern California and anywhere else, really. Did Kobe struggle from a marketing standpoint when he was the 1B to Shaq's 1A? No way. (He actually struggled a little bit in the wake of the rape accusations, but that's another story for another time.) If the play is branding, the Lakers are it. But I think the stuff about preferring the Clippers is real. Hey, I'd like to be wrong, as a Laker fan. Kawhi was my favorite non-Laker player in NBA history before this whole storm broke out. Now I'm a little bit hesitant. At the absolute least, Kawhi has allowed himself to be taken advantage of by unscrupulous advisors. Maybe he's not equipped to deal with it. But yeah, I think it's natural to be hesitant about the off-the-court stuff right now.

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    Jason McIntyre: Spurs would be ‘absolutely crazy’ to trade Kawhi to Toronto for DeMar DeRozan


    https://www.foxsports.com/watch/spea.../1279620163598

    That dude is a straight got on FS1. He’s the co captain of “Team LA” along with Cowherd. He’s just throwing a fit cause they’ve been pudshing the narrative of anti spurs and pro player.

    him tbh

    Who's this sniveling got and why do I want to punch him on the face so bad? He has one of those faces.

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    If the Raptors do obtain Kawhi and he doesn't re-sign, they will have a lot of cap space come next off-season right?

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    I wonder if Drake could sway Kawhi and uncle Dennis to stay in Toronto?

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    I don't see a trade with Toronto with DDR included...and let's be real: without Kiwhi, and LMA in his best season, our outcome has been barely joining the play offs. So I don't see next season without Kiwhi a chance to be contenders again. DDR doesn't change the equation.
    The point is that for Toronto having back their veteran's core + Kiwhi means be back in contention for eastern conference le and, without LBJ in the east, a possible nba finals.
    1. The Spurs were the 3rd seed the majority of the year, and the difference between them and the 3rd seed (POR) was minimal. In fact I think they win a series against POR last season.
    2. Aside from Kawhitter, LMA, Gay, Green all missed significant amount of time due to injuries
    3. Spurs system and culture is real, they'd be a Top 5 team with DeRozan and OG

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    Richard Allan Jefferson = DeMar Darnell DeRozan 2.0

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    It really bugs me that the Spurs are being looked at as being arrogant. This is not something you just do. You wait for the best package you can get. It's obvious they didn't get any great offers from teams like LA, Boston, and Philly so why trade him? They're doing exactly what every team should do. Wait. Do your due diligence and look over everything before sending him out.

    The other I can't figure out is how or why Kawhi's uncle somewhat blames the Spurs for him not getting a big shoe deal. Does he not know who his nephew is? He doesn't have a very marketable character or whatever you wanna call it. His personality doesn't shout out marketability.

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    If the Raptors do obtain Kawhi and he doesn't re-sign, they will have a lot of cap space come next off-season right?
    Yes if Danny Green is also included. It’s 30 million in expiring contracts. That is why I could see them doing the trade. Only down thing would be giving up OG and future draft picks.

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    Basically everything I've been saying. The Raptors have been sitting on this. They actually backed out initially as I stated because of health concerns. Brian Windhorst indicates the same thing around 1:00 mark of that clip. The Spurs front office felt that even after the Raptors backed out, the Raptors might still comeback and wanna do the trade.
    So you're saying they backed out last week due to health concerns, but now a week later they're suddenly all in again when absolutely nothing has changed those concerns?

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    1. The Spurs were the 3rd seed the majority of the year, and the difference between them and the 3rd seed (POR) was minimal. In fact I think they win a series against POR last season.
    2. Aside from Kawhitter, LMA, Gay, Green all missed significant amount of time due to injuries
    3. Spurs system and culture is real, they'd be a Top 5 team with DeRozan and OG
    imho you value DDR too much...expecially coming play offs time.

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    So you're saying they backed out last week due to health concerns, but now a week later they're suddenly all in again when absolutely nothing has changed those concerns?
    He’s been accurate for the most part. Definitely better than Pinoy Marauder (bar wasn’t set really high there) but I’ll take Mo predicting Raptors over Kawhi being on a plane for almost three weeks because it was a done deal.

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    A team like Utah would eat the Lakers for breakfast.
    Negro please.. UTAH is a paper tiger. They are well coached and play good defense but oy advanced cuz OKC under achieved... Lakers haven't proven but Utah outside of SpidaMitc is vastly overrated. Love Ingles but on a great team he is a 7th or 8th man at best...

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    He’s been accurate for the most part. Definitely better than Pinoy Marauder (bar wasn’t set really high there) but I’ll take Mo predicting Raptors over Kawhi being on a plane for almost three weeks because it was a done deal.
    I mean, I'm not saying he's wrong, but that reasoning doesn't make much sense. Toronto's also been rumored to be the most likely destination for like a week now.

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    Still don't think anything's going down in the next couple days. Think the Spurs are going to continue to take their sweet time with this.

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