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Spurs had very little leverage. Spurs were lucky to get this. Yes. It still sucks if you think more about what could have been. Pop said it best "Does no good to look back at A,B, and C" but it's hard not to.
If the team suspected he was "broken" the time to trade him would have been the week leading up to Free Agency tbh. The idiot is fine (i hope he isn't) tbh.
The team was probably holding out on a trade until Team USA camps for Pop to speak man to man with him. they probably had a convo recently (Pop said they talked a lot this summer) and the group made it clear that either he wasn't going to the camps or that he'd have a chaperone. That was probably the last straw and RC/Pop just said it I don't want to deal with this guy anymore (I predicted they'd cave earlier, surprised they lasted this long tbh).
Spurs had very little leverage. Spurs were lucky to get this. Yes. It still sucks if you think more about what could have been. Pop said it best "Does no good to look back at A,B, and C" but it's hard not to.
I heard a rumor that the physical was waived.
Back to basketball.
Clutch LA Gears reference.
Danny G shot 36.3% from downtown. That's better than Murray (26%) and DeFrozen (31%). LMA will need spacing, and yall traded for DeFrozen - who chucked 3.6 3s/game at a 31.2% clip? That's on par with Lonzo Ball's 30%. But we don't pay Lonzo $27 million dollars.
I love DG but he hasn't been able to shoot since Tony Parker lost a step back in 2015. Without TP causing teams to collapse, Green's open threes dried up. As it turns out, he's not nearly as good of a shooter when he has a hand in his face, unfortch.
We were never going to get the same value in return. Kawhi pooped all over the Spurs. There was no way to recover because of his stupid PR.
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Give me break with this classy BS. This dude has carried the most disgraceful and cowardly quitting a star player has done on a franchise-- and it's the Spurs of all teams. It is bush league move for the ages.
I really really hope SA never soften up. Anyone in the future who come up with idea of raising his jersey in the rafters when all is said and done should be fired on the spot.
You don’t wanna still trade for him by February
Poeltl was a guy I would have been fine with in addition to OG. By the time I heard the trade was going down, I had rationalized Leonard and Green for DeRozan, OG and Poeltl. I would have been okay with Leonard and Gasol for DeRozan, Siakam, Miles and a first. I just feel like SA gave up the easiest package they could and took back the lowest deal they could possibly justify to themselves. Maybe that would have been fine back in June (or better yet as soon as they and Toronto were eliminated from the playoffs). A strong and immediate reaction seems justifiable. But to let it sit this long before making the dive: I just can't see why they wouldn't wait longer. None of this was going anywhere.
I wonder too if DeRozan was the "additional All-Star" all along. It seems very much like Toronto did this deal to get rid of DeMarr as much as to get Kawhi. Maybe there's a universe where SA traded 18, Green and Gasol for DeRozan to pair with Leonard and Aldridge. No reason to wonder about the impact such a trio could have had. Now, I'm just hoping there's something else in the works. If there is a trade they have access to still, I hope they still go for it, especially if it's for a guard. The team might have enough offense or ways to get enough points, but they still lack talent. Getting a perimeter-oriented guard definitely feels like the best avenue going forward. They "attacked" that by singing Forbes. But if they're going to sacrifice assets to contend, they need to be more committed to doing that than they seem to be.
- a+ trade for the raptors. it was ridiculous for them to ever think lowry and demar would be good enough to do anything as a team's two best players. it's only reddit/twitter raptor "fans" that have a problem with this.
- not a fan of the deal for the spurs but they will be better than they look on paper.
- spurs should've waited until after minicamp.
- danny must love the deal since he'll get to hang out with drake/i would imagine toronto has a better night life.
they should retire his jersey and then burn it in the rafters next time kawhi has a game there
Well, we did get a guy who averaged 33 points vs. Golden State last year. The other offers were for potential but this guy can score a lot now. Hoped for more but this was a salary dump for Toronto. Glad it's over with.
Kiwi nothing like "Playoff P"
Kiwi from Killa Cali, yet yall deported him to the North Pole. You think he staying there?
SA badly needs Murray/Lonnie/White to Pop.
I don’t get how SA could so strongly want to win now and not be making other moves. They have to know the roster isn’t well built and that they need more. If you are going to harm the franchise long-term for the sake of Pop short-term, why not go all in and make a move for another true win-now piece?
Spurs will be fine. They are not a contender but they will be in the playoffs. Continue to be salty about the Spurs not giving you Kawhi for this year. You will probably get him next year but the Spurs basically wasted 1 year of Lebron's prime by not gifting Kawhi to the Lakers.Danny G shot 36.3% from downtown. That's better than Murray (26%) and DeFrozen (31%). LMA will need spacing, and yall traded for DeFrozen - who chucked 3.6 3s/game at a 31.2% clip? That's on par with Lonzo Ball's 30%. But we don't pay Lonzo $27 million dollars.
Truth bombs. He's still a slightly better 3pt shooter than DeFrozen and a much better defender.
And to give up your franchise player for that package? Worse than what we got for Shaq in 2004 IMO. DeFrozen a nice player, but at $27 milli? And he has to battle in the West? Damn.
You also don’t make the playoffs in 5 yearsDanny G shot 36.3% from downtown. That's better than Murray (26%) and DeFrozen (31%). LMA will need spacing, and yall traded for DeFrozen - who chucked 3.6 3s/game at a 31.2% clip? That's on par with Lonzo Ball's 30%. But we don't pay Lonzo $27 million dollars.
How does Rondo shoot from 3? Lonzo? McGee? Yall have sucky 3PT shooting too and no 2nd player as good as DeRozan.
You say waste because you are banking on our kids not taking the next step playing off of a superstar. We'll see.
Thanks for the information timvp. Knowing DeMar is more of a driver and jump shooter I'm hoping he'll be a great thing for our shooters, so I can see some small ball with Bertans and even Mills, thought the defensive woes are duly noted. Hopefully the odd thing with Poetli excelling at offensive boards while being weak at defensive boards will steadily improve over the season. Another 7 ft player sounds good!
I was very impressed with Pop's interview and he helped put things in perspective a bit. I'm not too thrilled with Kawhi's behavior and while I won't wish him ill will, I won't be rooting for him. At least some of the drama is over and we can start the new season without that constant narrative. Something tells me Kawhi is already regretting his actions and I'm thrilled he's going to CA north and not CA west.
Truth bombs. He's still a slightly better 3pt shooter than DeFrozen and a much better defender.
And to give up your franchise player for that package? Worse than what we got for Shaq in 2004 IMO. DeFrozen a nice player, but at $27 milli? And he has to battle in the West? Damn.
I bet you ten chickens Pop would have rather a Kuz/Ingram combo over DeFrozen.You also don’t make the playoffs in 5 years
How does Rondo shoot from 3? Lonzo? McGee? Yall have sucky 3PT shooting too and no 2nd player as good as DeRozan.
You would too. In my Debo voice: don't lie
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