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    What's funny is that the Spurs now have 2 players that finished 4th and 5th in MVP voting last season, yet few are excited about it(and rightfully so)
    MVP votes are all about counting stats.

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    MVP votes are all about counting stats.
    IF TEAMS DID NOT WIN DOES NOT MATTER MUST MAKE PLAYOFFS

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    How do you want to hide Derozan bad defense? With Belli, Mills running around? Murray is not that great either to cover for him.
    Spurs had the third best defense last year despite Mills, Fathead, Gasol, Old Man Parker, Joff, Hobbit Forbes etc...playing significant minutes.

    Losing Green will hurt, but Pop and co. seriously don't get enough credit for having a defensive scheme that manages to be successful despite the sum of its pieces.

    They aren't going to be a great defensive team, but they shouldn't be awful either. I expect the system will make Derozan look like a much better defender than he has been historically.

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    What's funny is that the Spurs now have 2 players that finished 4th and 5th in MVP voting last season, yet few are excited about it(and rightfully so)
    8th and 9th

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ards_2018.html

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    IF TEAMS DID NOT WIN DOES NOT MATTER MUST MAKE PLAYOFFS
    Why are you yelling so much today?

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    Tbh, LeBron saw how the Lakers gleefully bent over to accommodate the extended Kobe farewell tour so he decided to retire to that gig. Can't blame him. He has a lot of miles. He must be tired.

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    Josh Jackson will be good for one ... did you see him shoot in SL?!
    I said I would prefer Jackson over Ingram/Kuz in a deal. And he can still be good. He’s not a shooter; hes a slasher and defender.

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    lol walking back
    SMH - shouldn't you be in the political forum?

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    That makes more sense, I was going off NBA.com's awards article..

    Oladipo 13th is a travesty, wow..

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    I said I would prefer Jackson over Ingram/Kuz in a deal. And he can still be good. He’s not a shooter; hes a slasher and defender.
    I'd prefer Jesse Jackson to Ingram tbh

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    Why are you yelling so much today?
    terrible seeing leonard leave I wanted him back with the max
    oh well spurs got the most they could get

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    I'd prefer Jesse Jackson to Ingram tbh
    I'd have taken Joe Jackson over Kuzma.

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    I'd have taken Joe Jackson over Kuzma.
    I'd take Michael Jackson over Hart, and Janet over Randle.

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    "He's really hurt and that's why he doesn't trust the Spurs medical staff". ---- then why demand a trade to the Lakers, who have screwed up 20 year old Lonzo's knee, instead of demanding a trade to the Suns who are famous for having the best staff in the league?
    Because it has very little to do with the Lakers coaching staff and everything to do with living it up in LA. Kawhi doesn't care that much about ball -- dude just wants to be on the beach.

    Would be hilarious if the Lakers got him and he half-assed it for the rest of his career. He already proved he doesn't care about winning or getting better as a player.

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    How do you want to hide Derozan bad defense? With Belli, Mills running around? Murray is not that great either to cover for him.
    When Murray was drafted he was considered a high-upside offensive talent with no D whatsoever.

    He was utterly atrocious on D in college -- people on this board either never knew that or have forgotten it.

    Now, Murray is almost considered a defensive specialist. It was a transformative coaching job only surpassed by what the Spurs did for Leonard.

    The Spurs will elevate Derozan's game significantly on D.

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    At least Methlahoma is in the states. Kiwi now needs a passport to attend his autism classes after practice. That's some bull son
    I have heard Canada has better government programs to help the mentally challenged.

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    Spurs had the third best defense last year despite Mills, Fathead, Gasol, Old Man Parker, Joff, Hobbit Forbes etc...playing significant minutes.

    Losing Green will hurt, but Pop and co. seriously don't get enough credit for having a defensive scheme that manages to be successful despite the sum of its pieces.

    They aren't going to be a great defensive team, but they shouldn't be awful either. I expect the system will make Derozan look like a much better defender than he has been historically.
    Okay so we will be okay on defense and when playoffs comes it won't matter. With kawhi and green spurs are the best defensive team. Also Leonard is one of the few guys in the league that can hold pace of the game which is superbly important vs likes of GS.


    Anyway no matter how you slice it. Losing Leonard we lost chance on fighting for the trophy

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    I'd prefer Jesse Jackson to Ingram tbh
    You damn, liberal!!!

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    - Obviously the cir stances and context need to be taken into account, but even then, to not come away with Anunoby or at least Siakam, a lesser protected 1st or a protected '20 1st, is a significant loss.

    - Excluding superstars and stars, big wing/combo forwards, who can provide 3 and D, even with limited off the dribble/play making chops, are the most coveted commodity in the game and they don't have one on their roster nor a clear path to getting one any time soon. Gay is the only listed SF period and he's about as much of one as Anthony is nowadays.

    - They've basically resigned themselves to being somewhere in the 3-10 logjam of the West, with an absolute peak of a 2nd round team (probably 1st, though).

    - The starters (expect Cunningham and Gasol to start) will have atrocious spacing and the bench, as well as closing lineups, will have atrocious wing defense. They'll always be sacrificing one or the other in a futile attempt to find the right combinations and Bertans, despite his cost, projects as the 11th man

    - They've basically become the Raptors, both in build (overrun with C's and guards) and pre '17-'18 style, only they'll be in a tougher conference.

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    I'd take Michael Jackson over Hart, and Janet over Randle.
    And you will take Derozan over Kawhi ...and like it.
    I went back we were discussing Tatum and Jaylen brown to start this dance ...
    Yet it is now DD and Poetl.

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    Anyway no matter how you slice it. Losing Leonard we lost chance on fighting for the trophy
    You're not wrong there, but that was the case as soon as Leonard decided he wanted out of San Antonio. There is not a single piece they were going to get back for him that was going to allow them to compete with GSW, especially after he completely trashed his trade value.

    The Spur made the most of a bad situation. I don't think Pop wants or deserves to coach a rebuild during his waning tenure, so they did what they needed to do keep the team semi-compe ive and profitable.

    People have been calling for the Spurs to hit the reset button since 2010, and they still don't seem to be in a rush to do it.

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    I said I would prefer Jackson over Ingram/Kuz in a deal. And he can still be good. He’s not a shooter; hes a slasher and defender.
    Jackson for KL is almost as bad as DD but at least he is cheaper and plays defense.

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    Kawhi Leonard is a 1 year rental and has a diseased leg. In other words he's as close to worthless as it gets and everyone in the league knows this. Everyone should be thankful that they were able to get an all-star player and a promising bigman for him. You really think a professional sports franchise with as much money at stake as there is would open the vault for a 1 year rental of a diseased player with a cancerous uncle? Open your eyes and look at this realistically you ing clowns.

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    Does derozan make the all star team in the west?
    he’s not even good enough to be invited for a skills challenge

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