Thoughts on Spurs Trading Danny Green For DeMar DeRozan and Jakob Poeltl

[dbreiden83080]

I heard a rumor that the physical was waived.

He will be boarding a plane to NY any moment. Hiding in a closet on arrival..

[slick'81]

Unreal fleecing by TOR. No OG. No Siakem. Terrible pick. Have to include Danny. And send them money ? What?

wow spurs were like "please take this mofo"

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm starting to feel like there is something legit there-- corroborated by Philly's puzzling cold feet, especially since we know they share similar intel regarding his health.

Hence the rush to get him to a large market ASAP for the shoe deal. Players move in free agency all the time, why the rush a year out?

[LakerHater]

DeRozan gonna turn 29 nxt month

[Cry Havoc]

Lowe and Arnovitz in their podcast from today are liking the trade for the Raptors while conceding, on the coolest of cool, that the Spurs got hammered. Can't argue with that, tbh..

Pelton gave us a bad grade, which means we did a fantastic job on this trade.

[coachmac87]

If Kawhi is healthy and balls out, man, SA will have gotten fleeced. I understand context, but I am truly shocked that TOR was able to not even give up a legit first rounder in a deal. Shocked. There was obviously a level of panic in this deal and ONLY if Kawhi is a s of himself is that panic justified.

Well apparently Toronto backed out due to his health concerns...so maybe there’s legit concern throughout the league? I mean did Kawhi really search for multiple Doctors? Seems a little su ious tbh and maybe he’s damaged goods.

Spurs got fleeced by not getting a Wing defender or a player that can develop into one. But they absolutely won in getting a win now player LOCKED IN for 2-3 years

Spurs are by far a better team than last year...not championship caliber but tbh there’s maybe 3 teams and that’s if you’re including Houston.

I do believe Spurs could make more moves to make the pieces fit better with guards/wings....for example Murray-DeRozan aren’t a great fit.

[therealtruth]

DeRozan gonna turn 29 nxt month

They traded WingStop which you need to beat the Warriors or Rockets for Demar Depression. How does this help better matchup with Steph, Klay, and Durant?

[BatManu20]

They traded WingStop which you need to beat the Warriors or Rockets for Demar Depression. How does this help better matchup with Steph, Klay, and Durant?

This team wasn't beating the warriors anytime soon regardless tbh

[Marcus Bryant]

Get to large market and get signature shoe deal before having to actually show up on a NBA court again. Spurs likely weren't offering anything close to the supermax knowing what they knew. That the Spurs were even seriously talking about trading him should have raised red flags, in addition to all the various rumors and demands floating around.

[therealtruth]

This team wasn't beating the warriors anytime soon regardless tbh

At least with Kawhi and Danny you had a chance defensively.

[BatManu20]

[Marcus Bryant]

I'm still waiting to here about all these great deals the Spurs were offered that they passed on.

'We could've had Fultz....'

[Cry Havoc]

At least with Kawhi and Danny you had a chance defensively.

Curry
Klay
Durant
Green
Boogie

What team in ing history is going to beat them? FFS they would beat the piss out of some all-time great teams.

[DPG21920]

Not about other deals, but this TOR one. Even knowing what we know, all things considered it definitely feels like RC bent a of a lot here.

Would TOR really have walked away if SA said “look if you aren’t putting in one of your two best young prospects the pick is only top 10 protected”?

Or “look, we want OG or no deal”?

Seems panicky by SA and regardless of if Kawhi is injured TOR baked in all that risk and then some.

[FkLA]

Unreal fleecing by TOR. No OG. No Siakem. Terrible pick. Have to include Danny. And send them money ? What?

Why is it a fleecing, bruh? I think they made the deal with the assumption that it's a 1-year rental. Their motivation behind the deal was to shed DeRozan's contract not some unrealistic hope of keeping Kawhi. If they somehow manage to keep Kawhi around then sure it's a fleecing but there's nothing out of the ordinary for what is essentially a salary dump.

[DPG21920]

Why is it a fleecing, bruh? I think they made the deal with the assumption that it's a 1-year rental. Their motivation behind the deal was to shed DeRozan's deal not some unrealistic hope of keeping Kawhi.

Sure. But not even giving a legit first or one of their top prospects along with getting Danny’s expiring too?

[Marcus Bryant]

Panicky? They've been shopping this mofo for what, six weeks? Former top 5 player or whatever on the trade block and they've been drawing nothing to date. That should tell you plenty. Even with it being a one year rental. How many teams wouldn't ante up if say a Durant or James or Davis was available, even for 1 year with a chance to sell him on the team?

[Hoops Czar]

Unreal fleecing by TOR. No OG. No Siakem. Terrible pick. Have to include Danny. And send them money ? What?

What do you mean, what? You're the one who said this is best FO in professional sports. You tell me what they were thinking. It certainly doesn't appear from the naked eye the Spurs standards were high and they were out there shopping for the best offer.

[FkLA]

Sure. But not even giving a legit first or one of their top prospects along with getting Danny’s expiring too?

I look at it as it being a unique salary dump. Unique in the sense that the player being "dumped" is still valuable and honestly worth his contract. This isn't Mozgov or Deng that's being dumped. Sure, they get a Top 3 player for half a season/or a full season but that doesn't really matter unless he stays beyond that.

I wanted OG too, thought he was going to be included but if I'm being objective it kind of makes no sense for TOR to attach high-level assets just to dump a guy that still has a lot of value.

[DPG21920]

Panicky? They've been shopping this mofo for what, six weeks? Former top 5 player or whatever on the trade block and they've been drawing nothing to date. That should tell you plenty. Even with it being a one year rental. How many teams wouldn't ante up if say a Durant or James or Davis was available, even for 1 year with a chance to sell him on the team?

Ya. You are telling me that you aren’t surprised, honestly, that this is how the deal shook out? The pick protection, the cash, the young player, Danny being included?

I get it. SA was in a tough spot because of Kawhi. His value was depressed big time.

I don’t get your issue with the word. You yourself think Kawhi is damaged goods and SA had to make a move asap before word truly got out.

[Marcus Bryant]

Raptors had hit their ceiling with the current group. Even with James out of the EC the top 2 are Boston and Philly. Definitely a gamble in moving a healthy DeRozan for a disgruntled Leonard coming off missing 73 games in a season with all the drama (still strange) which has happened in SA. Maybe somehow Leonard learns to love Toronto? If not, oh well, players leave in free agency all the time and they, yes, just shed a large financial commitment for 2019-21.

[Marcus Bryant]

Ya. You are telling me that you aren’t surprised, honestly, that this is how the deal shook out? The pick protection, the cash, the young player, Danny being included?

I get it. SA was in a tough spot because of Kawhi. His value was depressed big time.

I don’t get your issue with the word. You yourself think Kawhi is damaged goods and SA had to make a move asap before word truly got out.

At this point I am not surprised. What was the best rumored offer previously? Covington, Saric and the Sixers' 1st? Tobias Harris and two mid 1st round picks? There was nothing else attractive out there. It speaks volumes that the Spurs pulled the trigger on this deal. There was no relationship, maybe there's also no longer the player he used to be. Getting worked up about if this deal could've had a little more gloss on it, given that the people who are actually negotiating this do think to ask for more, is silly. All that remains to be seen is the truth when it comes out about Leonard's health and the relationship. Playing hide and go seek with team personnel when they came to check in on the 'rehab' says plenty. Fire selling his ass to the closest place in the NBA to Siberia also says plenty.

[ace3g]

I wonder if the Jakob Poeltl aspect of the trade is early recruiting for Kuzma - his teammate at Utah

[GrapplingYautja]

I wonder if the Jakob Poeltl aspect of the trade is early recruiting for Kuzma - his teammate at Utah

You're kidding, right? The way that boy acts you'd THINK he's from Cali.

[Leetonidas]