Shams: Spurs & Toronto Engaged in Serious Trade Talks Centered Around Kawhi & DeRozan

[Brazil]

Tell em why you're mad.

Still in the business of defending the most cancerous player of the league ?
Have you registered yet at raptorstalk.com tbh ?

[GrapplingYautja]

Yall PAID to get rid of him?

And got NO lotto picks in return? DeFrozen better average 35/8/8 to justify that buffoonery! Spurs PATF

You gots write poems to free agents (and give coupons for AIDS medicine).

[Vic Petro]

Derozan picks up a lot of techs. 8 this season and 13 last year. He’s been ejected from a game once in each of the last four years.

[MannyIsGod]

DeRozan's not a Top 20 player though, tbh. He's somewhere between 25-30.


But yea, we were getting ed in this deal either way.

DeRozan is absolutely top 20.

[MannyIsGod]

I never really thought about it until today, but one reason that Kawhi's value was so low was because he did this to the Spurs. Last year when LMA wanted out, you heard a lot of the talk around the league saying that league execs wanted no part of a guy who wouldn't succeed in SA. It's well known across the league how accommodating the Spurs are and how much of a good situation it is for players because its an extremely well run franchise. Its likely that because of this, people were more wary of Kawhi being able to work in their systems.

Honestly if this happens to a team like Sacramento, more GMs are probably willing to take a flyer on Kawhi. When it happens on the Spurs, how many teams feel comfortable that they can offer a better situation? Virtually none.

[SpursBills]

let's just pretend we traded george hill for derozan, bertans, poeltl, and a 2019 1st rounder. looks like we got a steal, boys

[timvp]

DeRozan is absolutely top 20.

If he can play like he did the last couple season, DeRozan enters the conversation somewhere around 12-15, IMO.

[objective]

The Spurs paying $5 million to dump Kawhi is pathetic

This cheap ass team has barely paid any tax for 20 years, and have had seasons if memory serves where they had not used their full exceptions out of cheapness. They never bought a first, either.

Letting Simmons go, not matching on Anderson, having to massively overpay Jefferson as a thank you for avoiding one single year of luxury tax, refusing to pay Scola, dumping Scola to get off of 2.5 million on Butler ...

That is just sad that they've always been too cheap to pay up when they were contenders but now are vomiting up the big bucks to avoid both contention and rebuilding.

Though I suppose reason and logic can't be expected from the same front office that not only gave Mills a horrible contract then also doubled down on bringing back Forbes.

[Dex]

Yall PAID to get rid of him?

And got NO lotto picks in return? DeFrozen better average 35/8/8 to justify that buffoonery! Spurs PATF

I know you're trolling, but at least your avatar is still fun to watch.

[objective]

Spurs too cheap to spend the BAE and the remaining MLE, not too cheap to pay Toronto off

[timvp]

The Spurs paying $5 million to dump Kawhi is pathetic

This cheap ass team has barely paid any tax for 20 years, and have had seasons if memory serves where they had not used their full exceptions out of cheapness. They never bought a first, either.

Tells me the Spurs were pretty desperate to make this trade and the Raptors were the hesitant ones. Why did the Spurs want to ship out Kawhi ASAP? Perhaps there's more to the story and they expect his value to drop soon . . .

[Dex]

I never really thought about it until today, but one reason that Kawhi's value was so low was because he did this to the Spurs. Last year when LMA wanted out, you heard a lot of the talk around the league saying that league execs wanted no part of a guy who wouldn't succeed in SA. It's well known across the league how accommodating the Spurs are and how much of a good situation it is for players because its an extremely well run franchise. Its likely that because of this, people were more wary of Kawhi being able to work in their systems.

Honestly if this happens to a team like Sacramento, more GMs are probably willing to take a flyer on Kawhi. When it happens on the Spurs, how many teams feel comfortable that they can offer a better situation? Virtually none.

For this reason, I think Kawhi is going to regret trying to search for greener pastures.

If he feels like the Spurs were overbearing, imagine how he is going to feel once he is on a team that doesn't protect its players from the media, press, leaks, etc. A team that actually tries to protect its players, despite his "concerns" about the medical staff.

If he doesn't want the spotlight, imagine how he is going to feel being the new superstar in Toronto, or moreso...in L.A., either being Lebron's sidekick or being his nemesis.

He is about to learn how the other organizations in the league operate...and he's going to have to sleep in that bed he has made.

[JPB]

let's just pretend we traded george hill for derozan, bertans, poeltl, and a 2019 1st rounder. looks like we got a steal, boys

That's what you call perspective... and the more you think about it that way, the more you actually feel good about it.

It's obvious now that spurs were just wanting to extract the worm from the apple more than finding another apple. And I'm persisting into thinking sending the group to a "bad" destination was really a factor in PATFO's decision.

They made them pay.

[midnightpulp]

The power of Kawhi: He doesn't have to say a word to make ObeCity more furious than when the corner Bodega runs out of lard.....

I ain't from SA, bro. And why are you semen shielding? Kawhi and "his camp" handled this situation like children. I don't mind Kawhi leaving at all, but he should've done it honorably, i.e. play out your contract with little drama and then bolt to wherever you want. No one here would've had a problem.

[polandprzem]

Tells me the Spurs were pretty desperate to make this trade and the Raptors were the hesitant ones. Why did the Spurs want to ship out Kawhi ASAP? Perhaps there's more to the story and they expect his value to drop soon . . .

Maybe there is nothing more to the story. Just that Kawhi is not a guy that speaks for himself and RC and Pop does not like to cooperate like that and they knew Uncle will have impact on Leonard and not let the team concentrate on basketball.

[objective]

Tells me the Spurs were pretty desperate to make this trade and the Raptors were the hesitant ones. Why did the Spurs want to ship out Kawhi ASAP? Perhaps there's more to the story and they expect his value to drop soon . . .

I think the most likely explanation is they got played.

Once they had gone through so much, and had finally gotten near the finish line with the trade and come to terms with everything being finally over, Masai hit them with the cash payment uppercut.

They were so exhausted, so weak, so eager to get the taste of bad nephew out of their mouths, that they couldn't put up a fight.

Masai probably hit them with the offer pull, or pulling the pick, protesting that they couldn't do the deal, and once it got too late in the summer he wasn't going to have his first year coach and first ever coach hire not be able to fully plan for the camp and season.

Spurs gave in like wild animals do when they are about to be eaten after a long chase by an animal they can't possibly escape from. No more struggle, just sad surrender. They are that seal being pulled off the ice by a whale.

Only good thing is that the predator who ate the Spurs for dinner and is crapping them out is the raptors and not the Lakers.

But the Spurs were still eaten and made Raptor feces.

[Pavlov]

I think the most likely explanation is they got played.

Once they had gone through so much, and had finally gotten near the finish line with the trade and come to terms with everything being finally over, Masai hit them with the cash payment uppercut.

They were so exhausted, so weak, so eager to get the taste of bad nephew out of their mouths, that they couldn't put up a fight.

Masai probably hit them with the offer pull, or pulling the pick, protesting that they couldn't do the deal, and once it got too late in the summer he wasn't going to have his first year coach and first ever coach hire not be able to fully plan for the camp and season.

Spurs gave in like wild animals do when they are about to be eaten after a long chase by an animal they can't possibly escape from. No more struggle, just sad surrender. They are that seal being pulled off the ice by a whale.

Only good thing is that the predator who ate the Spurs for dinner and is crapping them out is the raptors and not the Lakers.

But the Spurs were still eaten and made Raptor feces.

lol so dramatic

[GrapplingYautja]

I think the most likely explanation is they got played.

Once they had gone through so much, and had finally gotten near the finish line with the trade and come to terms with everything being finally over, Masai hit them with the cash payment uppercut.

They were so exhausted, so weak, so eager to get the taste of bad nephew out of their mouths, that they couldn't put up a fight.

Masai probably hit them with the offer pull, or pulling the pick, protesting that they couldn't do the deal, and once it got too late in the summer he wasn't going to have his first year coach and first ever coach hire not be able to fully plan for the camp and season.

Spurs gave in like wild animals do when they are about to be eaten after a long chase by an animal they can't possibly escape from. No more struggle, just sad surrender. They are that seal being pulled off the ice by a whale.

Only good thing is that the predator who ate the Spurs for dinner and is crapping them out is the raptors and not the Lakers.

But the Spurs were still eaten and made Raptor feces.

You're that dude that sends in erotic fantasy letters to the nudie mags, right?

out of here with your baby seal stories, cuck!

[Marcus Bryant]

Tells me the Spurs were pretty desperate to make this trade and the Raptors were the hesitant ones. Why did the Spurs want to ship out Kawhi ASAP? Perhaps there's more to the story and they expect his value to drop soon . . .

Explains the urgency on both sides. He was a year from free agency. 99% of players play out their contract and then go after where they want to be. Everything his camp was saying and doing was to force a move now. That his injury is more severe or limiting would help to explain what transpired.

[John B]

Explains the urgency on both sides. He was a year from free agency. 99% of players play out their contract and then go after where they want to be. Everything his camp was saying and doing was to force a move now. That his injury is more severe or limiting would help to explain what transpired.

But that’s probably why he’s playing Team USA next week, to prove Spurs wrong. You could’ve got me back at Supermax.. hmmm

[MoSpur02]

Mo, I owe you credit for calling this. You were right and I was wrong my man.

Now tell me the Spurs are cooking some other up and we're not stuck with this ass roster

Wish I could tell y'all the Spurs aren't done and are looking to trade Gasol & Mills for some young athletic defense minded players, but I have not heard anything.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

[LkrFan]

I know you're trolling, but at least your avatar is still fun to watch.

She is hot AF.

[FireMicoHalili]

The Spurs paying $5 million to dump Kawhi is pathetic

This cheap ass team has barely paid any tax for 20 years, and have had seasons if memory serves where they had not used their full exceptions out of cheapness. They never bought a first, either.

Letting Simmons go, not matching on Anderson, having to massively overpay Jefferson as a thank you for avoiding one single year of luxury tax, refusing to pay Scola, dumping Scola to get off of 2.5 million on Butler ...

That is just sad that they've always been too cheap to pay up when they were contenders but now are vomiting up the big bucks to avoid both contention and rebuilding.

Though I suppose reason and logic can't be expected from the same front office that not only gave Mills a horrible contract then also doubled down on bringing back Forbes.

Not sure if this is related but Windfart said the Raptors may highly probably waive the physical

[r0drig0lac]

I think the most likely explanation is they got played.

Once they had gone through so much, and had finally gotten near the finish line with the trade and come to terms with everything being finally over, Masai hit them with the cash payment uppercut.

They were so exhausted, so weak, so eager to get the taste of bad nephew out of their mouths, that they couldn't put up a fight.

Masai probably hit them with the offer pull, or pulling the pick, protesting that they couldn't do the deal, and once it got too late in the summer he wasn't going to have his first year coach and first ever coach hire not be able to fully plan for the camp and season.

Spurs gave in like wild animals do when they are about to be eaten after a long chase by an animal they can't possibly escape from. No more struggle, just sad surrender. They are that seal being pulled off the ice by a whale.

Only good thing is that the predator who ate the Spurs for dinner and is crapping them out is the raptors and not the Lakers.

But the Spurs were still eaten and made Raptor feces.