Cris Carter...

[ElNono]

reaction when he heard that...

[kawhigoat123]

uhhh yes he is. if kawhi sits out the raptors will fine his ass everyday plus its against the cba rules to sit out when healthy.

[Pavlov]

[spurs10]

He doesn't go to Toronto his career is going to tank. This is all self-inflicted. I've heard elsewhere he is going.

[Arcadian]

Look at Carter's face. Just look at him. Doesn't he just look like a stupid got?

[davidbowie]

uncle dennis is his source right? like how are they even friends...it's friggin cris carter

am i missing something

[Kori Ellis]

uncle dennis is his source right? like how are they even friends...it's friggin cris carter

am i missing something

Cris Carter's brother allegedly was one of Kawhi's trainers in NY. Kawhi's agent (not his uncle, his actual agent) was Cris Carter's agent back in the day.

[valleybeyond]

long time lurker, first-time poster (not an alt, promise lol- this show of an offseason prompted me to create an account). that said, a number of questions still bother me:

1. What exactly were these "things" that the Spurs had Kawhi do without explanation?? I've followed the team pretty religiously since the Admiral days and this is the first time I've heard of anything remotely like this.

2. Carter says that Kawhi didn't like that the Spurs went after players that were "yes-men" in FA. Okay...so players that bought into the Spurs system?? AKA really good role players that he should want around him as a franchise player??

3. Chris Carter's body language/demeanor...his feet are shaking the entire time he's talking, very poor eye contact, he looks exasperated when he's trying to counter the claim that the Spurs are a great organization. Why? Just comes across as discomfort/that he's hiding something...also, I feel like he's had these same weird tics/nervous habits in ANY interview that he's talked about Kawhi (not just the one above).

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this diatribe, but man this is just a weird evolution of events that frankly makes little sense. There are just so many inconsistencies/gaps in logic...

* reports that Kawhi always hated the way the Spurs conducted business/didn't like their organizational structures and plans...yet he said he wanted to retire a Spur as recently as his March interview

* reports that he was getting homesick and thus wanted LA...yet he's supposedly a low maintenance guy that still drives his old beater car. (also side note, don't most players spend offseasons in their hometowns anyway?? given the demands of the NBA schedule will it really make that big of a difference to be LA based vs. SA?? I live in Austin and flights to Cali are < 3 hours (and you gain time flying west))

* reports that he despises the limelight and attention (he was in Vegas last week, and left bc he hated his surroundings) ... yet he's demanding a trade to most lime-lit place in the NBA (more so now w/ LeBron...regardless of which LA team he wants to go to next year). There's a difference between growing up in San Diego and loving the surroundings vs playing for an LA team; also a very real possibility that the pressure of playing in LA destroys the charm that the city holds for you on a personal level.


of c there's the whole obscure injury (degenerative tendinopathy is a ridiculously rare condition to diagnose in isolation (without any other underlying autoimmune diseases)), and leaving what appears to be $80million on the table.

not to mention the fact that he royally screwed over the franchise that allowed him to build from a fringe lottery pick to bonafide two-way star. if the discontent was this prevalent much earlier than this summer and the money was, in fact, a non-issue, at least have the decency to make a trade demand behind closed doors and not handicap the organization that raised you for the foreseeable future.


I hope we get a full timeline of how this transpired/exactly where the fractures in this relationship happened, simply for the sake of closure. At the very least, come out and talk to the fans that supported you, loved you and held you in the same regard as #21 and #50 for a majority of your career.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

long time lurker, first-time poster (not an alt, promise lol- this show of an offseason prompted me to create an account). that said, a number of questions still bother me:

1. What exactly were these "things" that the Spurs had Kawhi do without explanation?? I've followed the team pretty religiously since the Admiral days and this is the first time I've heard of anything remotely like this.

2. Carter says that Kawhi didn't like that the Spurs went after players that were "yes-men" in FA. Okay...so players that bought into the Spurs system?? AKA really good role players that he should want around him as a franchise player??

3. Chris Carter's body language/demeanor...his feet are shaking the entire time he's talking, very poor eye contact, he looks exasperated when he's trying to counter the claim that the Spurs are a great organization. Why? Just comes across as discomfort/that he's hiding something...also, I feel like he's had these same weird tics/nervous habits in ANY interview that he's talked about Kawhi (not just the one above).

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this diatribe, but man this is just a weird evolution of events that frankly makes little sense. There are just so many inconsistencies/gaps in logic...

* reports that Kawhi always hated the way the Spurs conducted business/didn't like their organizational structures and plans...yet he said he wanted to retire a Spur as recently as his March interview

* reports that he was getting homesick and thus wanted LA...yet he's supposedly a low maintenance guy that still drives his old beater car. (also side note, don't most players spend offseasons in their hometowns anyway?? given the demands of the NBA schedule will it really make that big of a difference to be LA based vs. SA?? I live in Austin and flights to Cali are < 3 hours (and you gain time flying west))

* reports that he despises the limelight and attention (he was in Vegas last week, and left bc he hated his surroundings) ... yet he's demanding a trade to most lime-lit place in the NBA (more so now w/ LeBron...regardless of which LA team he wants to go to next year). There's a difference between growing up in San Diego and loving the surroundings vs playing for an LA team; also a very real possibility that the pressure of playing in LA destroys the charm that the city holds for you on a personal level.


of c there's the whole obscure injury (degenerative tendinopathy is a ridiculously rare condition to diagnose in isolation (without any other underlying autoimmune diseases)), and leaving what appears to be $80million on the table.

not to mention the fact that he royally screwed over the franchise that allowed him to build from a fringe lottery pick to bonafide two-way star. if the discontent was this prevalent much earlier than this summer and the money was, in fact, a non-issue, at least have the decency to make a trade demand behind closed doors and not handicap the organization that raised you for the foreseeable future.


I hope we get a full timeline of how this transpired/exactly where the fractures in this relationship happened, simply for the sake of closure. At the very least, come out and talk to the fans that supported you, loved you and held you in the same regard as #21 and #50 for a majority of your career.

TLDR

Carter is totally and completely full of . And I could not be happier that we ing stuck it to Kawhitter when he wanted to go to sunny LA and we sent him not only to a cold climate, but out of the ing country into foreign territory.

Im getting such a smile just thinking about Kawhi's pea sized autistic brain trying to process how badly he just got ing worked over. Have fun in Canada , ing owned.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

long time lurker, first-time poster (not an alt, promise lol- this show of an offseason prompted me to create an account). that said, a number of questions still bother me:

1. What exactly were these "things" that the Spurs had Kawhi do without explanation?? I've followed the team pretty religiously since the Admiral days and this is the first time I've heard of anything remotely like this.

2. Carter says that Kawhi didn't like that the Spurs went after players that were "yes-men" in FA. Okay...so players that bought into the Spurs system?? AKA really good role players that he should want around him as a franchise player??

3. Chris Carter's body language/demeanor...his feet are shaking the entire time he's talking, very poor eye contact, he looks exasperated when he's trying to counter the claim that the Spurs are a great organization. Why? Just comes across as discomfort/that he's hiding something...also, I feel like he's had these same weird tics/nervous habits in ANY interview that he's talked about Kawhi (not just the one above).

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this diatribe, but man this is just a weird evolution of events that frankly makes little sense. There are just so many inconsistencies/gaps in logic...

* reports that Kawhi always hated the way the Spurs conducted business/didn't like their organizational structures and plans...yet he said he wanted to retire a Spur as recently as his March interview

* reports that he was getting homesick and thus wanted LA...yet he's supposedly a low maintenance guy that still drives his old beater car. (also side note, don't most players spend offseasons in their hometowns anyway?? given the demands of the NBA schedule will it really make that big of a difference to be LA based vs. SA?? I live in Austin and flights to Cali are < 3 hours (and you gain time flying west))

* reports that he despises the limelight and attention (he was in Vegas last week, and left bc he hated his surroundings) ... yet he's demanding a trade to most lime-lit place in the NBA (more so now w/ LeBron...regardless of which LA team he wants to go to next year). There's a difference between growing up in San Diego and loving the surroundings vs playing for an LA team; also a very real possibility that the pressure of playing in LA destroys the charm that the city holds for you on a personal level.


of c there's the whole obscure injury (degenerative tendinopathy is a ridiculously rare condition to diagnose in isolation (without any other underlying autoimmune diseases)), and leaving what appears to be $80million on the table.

not to mention the fact that he royally screwed over the franchise that allowed him to build from a fringe lottery pick to bonafide two-way star. if the discontent was this prevalent much earlier than this summer and the money was, in fact, a non-issue, at least have the decency to make a trade demand behind closed doors and not handicap the organization that raised you for the foreseeable future.


I hope we get a full timeline of how this transpired/exactly where the fractures in this relationship happened, simply for the sake of closure. At the very least, come out and talk to the fans that supported you, loved you and held you in the same regard as #21 and #50 for a majority of your career.

welcome. dont pay attention to the idiots below

[dbestpro]

Carter and the Dennis camp have drug KL's career into the mud. Wanting to be a major marketer by alienating one of largest states and an entire country does not bode well for future clients. He will never ever be able to recoup the money he lost. He just is not that marketable. Nike indicated that Nick Young sells more shoes that Kawhi, just because of his social media presence alone. KL will gotten his piece of the pie. He better manage it well, cause he won't get as much as he could have.

[Dverde]

I would be boss if Lakers and Clippers both only offered him full MLE. You devalue yourself by saying you will only play in LA.

[coachmac87]

Cris Carter this morning literally said on TV...

“I dunno where this talk came from about him not reporting/sitting out can’t from...I talk to his people and it’s just not true”

Get this idiot off tv. He’s ruining his own career along with Kawhi and the group


https://youtu.be/AYZfYpGXL2c

[SpursWoman]

“I dunno where this talk came from about him not reporting/sitting out can’t from...I talk to his people and it’s just not true”

So it's true, then.

[ndbutch]

Sounds like a mouthpiece for Kawhi's group. He simply floats what they want him too. Didn't he also float the "doesn't want to be overshadowed by LeBron" and "the Lakers better hurry up" trial balloons? So he tried to warn the Raptors off at the Leonard camps urging. Nobody bit. Meh. Drive on.

[nym]

Cris Carter this morning literally said on TV...

“I dunno where this talk came from about him not reporting/sitting out can’t from...I talk to his people and it’s just not true”

Get this idiot off tv. He’s ruining his own career along with Kawhi and the group


https://youtu.be/AYZfYpGXL2c

Carter trying to back track big time. But is he really that stupid to deny it since there are videos of him saying all the inflammatory things, including sitting out and not reporting, that led to Kawhi (and poor Danny smh) being shipped off to Canada?

[duncan2k5]

Reports that Kawhi is warming up to playing in Toronto makes CC seem even more incompetent... He seemed soooo sure... But these guys are just speaking for Kawhi and making assumptions for him... I'm sure when Kawhi saw CC on air yesterday, he was like "wtf dude? I'm not sitting out" and they then put out a statement about him warming up to the idea of Toronto to not make CC look like a complete idiot by saying it wasn't true

[Ron Swanson]

Wasn't it just a couple of days ago when he said something like "Don't call Kawhi. Call me. He's not going to Toronto."

What a dumb piece of .

Edit: Nevermind. I didn't see the post at the top of the page.

[bluebellmaniac]

long time lurker, first-time poster (not an alt, promise lol- this show of an offseason prompted me to create an account). that said, a number of questions still bother me:

1. What exactly were these "things" that the Spurs had Kawhi do without explanation?? I've followed the team pretty religiously since the Admiral days and this is the first time I've heard of anything remotely like this.

2. Carter says that Kawhi didn't like that the Spurs went after players that were "yes-men" in FA. Okay...so players that bought into the Spurs system?? AKA really good role players that he should want around him as a franchise player??

3. Chris Carter's body language/demeanor...his feet are shaking the entire time he's talking, very poor eye contact, he looks exasperated when he's trying to counter the claim that the Spurs are a great organization. Why? Just comes across as discomfort/that he's hiding something...also, I feel like he's had these same weird tics/nervous habits in ANY interview that he's talked about Kawhi (not just the one above).

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this diatribe, but man this is just a weird evolution of events that frankly makes little sense. There are just so many inconsistencies/gaps in logic...

* reports that Kawhi always hated the way the Spurs conducted business/didn't like their organizational structures and plans...yet he said he wanted to retire a Spur as recently as his March interview

* reports that he was getting homesick and thus wanted LA...yet he's supposedly a low maintenance guy that still drives his old beater car. (also side note, don't most players spend offseasons in their hometowns anyway?? given the demands of the NBA schedule will it really make that big of a difference to be LA based vs. SA?? I live in Austin and flights to Cali are < 3 hours (and you gain time flying west))

* reports that he despises the limelight and attention (he was in Vegas last week, and left bc he hated his surroundings) ... yet he's demanding a trade to most lime-lit place in the NBA (more so now w/ LeBron...regardless of which LA team he wants to go to next year). There's a difference between growing up in San Diego and loving the surroundings vs playing for an LA team; also a very real possibility that the pressure of playing in LA destroys the charm that the city holds for you on a personal level.


of c there's the whole obscure injury (degenerative tendinopathy is a ridiculously rare condition to diagnose in isolation (without any other underlying autoimmune diseases)), and leaving what appears to be $80million on the table.

not to mention the fact that he royally screwed over the franchise that allowed him to build from a fringe lottery pick to bonafide two-way star. if the discontent was this prevalent much earlier than this summer and the money was, in fact, a non-issue, at least have the decency to make a trade demand behind closed doors and not handicap the organization that raised you for the foreseeable future.


I hope we get a full timeline of how this transpired/exactly where the fractures in this relationship happened, simply for the sake of closure. At the very least, come out and talk to the fans that supported you, loved you and held you in the same regard as #21 and #50 for a majority of your career.

Daaaang... What a great first post. All great points!

[coachmac87]

Cris Carter also said he doesn’t like Toronto basketball wise due to their poor backcourt..especially defensively. And he continued to name drop Lowry and Danny Green as his logic behind that statement.,.

I think he could be smoking crack again tbh.

[MoSpur02]

Cris Carter looking like an idiot makes this trade all worth it. Honestly. I was tired of hearing him talk. If the Spurs would've traded Kawhi for a couple of second round picks in 2050 & 2051 and this trade would still be worth it because Carter looks absolutely foolish now.

[offset formation]

Carter trying to back track big time. But is he really that stupid to deny it since but there are videos of him saying all the inflammatory things, inlcuding sitting out and not reporting, that led to Kawhi (and poor Danny smh) being shipped off to Canada?

"Soft tissue injuries are a strange thing..."

Lol. I remember thinking to myself, you know the Spurs know Carter is getting his talking points from Uncle Dennis and I knew when I heard Carter say that, there was ZERO chance the Spurs would ever deal with such a lowlife loser again. It was at that moment I knew he was gone and that there would be no making up. And if memory serves me correct, it was the next day I first heard the report that the Spurs were now ready to move Kawhi.

[Spurtacular]

Kawhi's a .

[SAGirl]

long time lurker, first-time poster (not an alt, promise lol- this show of an offseason prompted me to create an account). that said, a number of questions still bother me:

1. What exactly were these "things" that the Spurs had Kawhi do without explanation?? I've followed the team pretty religiously since the Admiral days and this is the first time I've heard of anything remotely like this.

2. Carter says that Kawhi didn't like that the Spurs went after players that were "yes-men" in FA. Okay...so players that bought into the Spurs system?? AKA really good role players that he should want around him as a franchise player??

3. Chris Carter's body language/demeanor...his feet are shaking the entire time he's talking, very poor eye contact, he looks exasperated when he's trying to counter the claim that the Spurs are a great organization. Why? Just comes across as discomfort/that he's hiding something...also, I feel like he's had these same weird tics/nervous habits in ANY interview that he's talked about Kawhi (not just the one above).

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this diatribe, but man this is just a weird evolution of events that frankly makes little sense. There are just so many inconsistencies/gaps in logic...

* reports that Kawhi always hated the way the Spurs conducted business/didn't like their organizational structures and plans...yet he said he wanted to retire a Spur as recently as his March interview

* reports that he was getting homesick and thus wanted LA...yet he's supposedly a low maintenance guy that still drives his old beater car. (also side note, don't most players spend offseasons in their hometowns anyway?? given the demands of the NBA schedule will it really make that big of a difference to be LA based vs. SA?? I live in Austin and flights to Cali are < 3 hours (and you gain time flying west))

* reports that he despises the limelight and attention (he was in Vegas last week, and left bc he hated his surroundings) ... yet he's demanding a trade to most lime-lit place in the NBA (more so now w/ LeBron...regardless of which LA team he wants to go to next year). There's a difference between growing up in San Diego and loving the surroundings vs playing for an LA team; also a very real possibility that the pressure of playing in LA destroys the charm that the city holds for you on a personal level.


of c there's the whole obscure injury (degenerative tendinopathy is a ridiculously rare condition to diagnose in isolation (without any other underlying autoimmune diseases)), and leaving what appears to be $80million on the table.

not to mention the fact that he royally screwed over the franchise that allowed him to build from a fringe lottery pick to bonafide two-way star. if the discontent was this prevalent much earlier than this summer and the money was, in fact, a non-issue, at least have the decency to make a trade demand behind closed doors and not handicap the organization that raised you for the foreseeable future.


I hope we get a full timeline of how this transpired/exactly where the fractures in this relationship happened, simply for the sake of closure. At the very least, come out and talk to the fans that supported you, loved you and held you in the same regard as #21 and #50 for a majority of your career.

Welcome!
A lot of unanswerables.
The only thing I doubt is that he didn't make a request to be traded privately. I think he did, but the Spurs weren't going to trade him unless backed into a corner and as recent as a couple of weeks ago, RC and Pop were still trying to patch the relationship up. There were rumors early in the season that he wanted to be traded, b4 it became a show, and some posters here alleged there were offers at the trade deadline that the Spurs simply passed on. I do think he requested the trade long ago, but Pop tried to keep him. I can't fault him that, I don't think it was easy to let him go and things had to get horrendously ugly for the Spurs to pull the trigger on a trade.

I bet we won't fully know unless the Uncle at some point gets $ in exchange for revealing what went on. Pop already said that he's moving on and looking towards the future team and his new additions. He won't talk much more about this and he said very little when you think about it and Kawhi is a mute. He won't say much I think.

[Horse]

Look at Carter's face. Just look at him. Doesn't he just look like a stupid got?

Yes and a drunk one