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I think they waived it.. So if he is in pain, he will be in NY hiding in a closet..
I take it the trade wouldn't go through?
Would it shed light on his "injury" as possibly being real and career threatening?
So confused.
I think they waived it.. So if he is in pain, he will be in NY hiding in a closet..
He won't. But that would be pretty hilarious watching the Raptors go into damage control with DeRozan.
Didn't his camp put out a press release that he was ready to go? There is like 99.9% he passes that physical. He would miss the Team USA thing as well if that would happen. He's already hemorrhaging money like crazy. Imagine the fallout if that were to happen...
I hope it happens. Make the annoying-drama filled fiasco even more juicy.
Failing a physical does not mean the trade can’t go through. It’s just up to TOR on whether or not they want to go forward or ask for more compensation.
Even if it fails (it wont) TOR still does the trade. It’s gone too far. SA may have to give back the pick or something but it’s going through.
No.. that would be a disaster. Need to move on from the re ed mute.
Eff that. If the physical fails (which it really won't -- they don't measure pain tolerance in those things), then PATFO better just waive Kawhi over letting Masai them over more.
I don’t think SA views it that way. They wanted a player, bad fit or not, to keep them compe ive and the pick was secondary IMO.
If Kawhi doesn't play, then we don't get the pick anyway. That's probably why both accepted it to be top 20 protected.
Nothing in a trade is secondary. Rumors were that Toronto had asked the Spurs to give a pick initially, so they likely had to negotiate that pick in there. I don't think they'd so easily give that up. They're not stupid enough to believe that DeRozan alone was worth the deal.
Kawhi failing his physical is the worst case scenario right now. Spurs fans should hope he passes it with flying colors. The Spurs didn't get a great package in return but they got definite value -- I'd classify it as a okay to good return.
If he fails, the Spurs are pretty damn screwed no matter what happens from there.
Wow, you really have gone through some hardcore cogitative dissonance, haven't you?
you sure about that?
Kawhi has every incentive to pass the physical. For one, he loses all his leverage for any kind of payment if he isn't healthy. For the other, the last thing he wants to happen is go to S.A., who did not give in to his trade demand other than to ship him out. With Toronto, he's got a shot of getting traded to LA. That was never a real possibility while he was a Spur.
So in an article released on July 6, i think that was the day players can sign FA contracts and trades can be fulfilled, Jabari Young is on NBA TV the week before restating the 96-97% healthy for Kawhi and his quad. News that was first brought out by Kawhi's mouthpieces a month earlier. This man is HEALTHY!! He kept any workouts private, any communication to his recovery and status were kept from the public and teams (except what they were comfortable releasing) because they wanted any small doubt alive so that no other clubs wouldn't deal with the Spurs in trade talks. He is going to pass that physical with no problems at all.
The pick is definitely secondary. What do you think Kawhi's value is if he fails a damn physical? It's way lower than his already incredibly low value.
Then they'd have nothing.
You just seemed to argue to argue here. The Spurs wanted the pick. If Leonard fails the physical, and Toronto tries to get their pick back -- despite only getting Kawhi at this price because of fears about this physical -- I'd tell them to off.
spurs got a legit all star still in his prime, on a multi year contract -- in exchange for one year of nephew
they got a pick, a young big that i personally am not very excited about; and had to give up verde, who i like but no longer fit well basketball-wise in the spurs starting lineup. (i hope danny finds his shot again and blows the doors off the eastern conference this season.)
spurs FO got good return on nephew, while shipping him not only east, but to the bitter cold. if they would have just gifted him to toronto in exchange for nothing i would give it a
You wouldn't have done this deal to begin with so your opinion isn't really objective since you're looking for a way out to begin with. If the goal is to be compe ive, telling Toronto to off and holding onto a broken Kawhi gets you so far from that its not even funny. The Spurs had very little leverage to begin with and now would be even worse off.
The goal is very obviously to compete next year and the following. The Toronto pick does almost nothing to help with that. If Kawhi fails a physical and that pick is all that stands between doing this trade then I have no doubts the Spurs would just say it and forget the pick.
Also RE me arguing. Don't say stupid and you won't get a response from me. You're in this thread saying others have cognitive dissonance because they disagree with you so don't go full , Chinook.
If he fails, then Kawhi might consider resigning with the Spurs, but it will have to be for a lot less than the supermax, tbh.
Kawhi would be screwed as well. Shortened career. Damaged goods. Money would really be going out the window at that point.
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