Bryn Forbes Contract Tidbit

[bdictjames]

I think Bryn is gonna become himself today and relax. He's been tense the past couple of years. Once he gets into a rhythm, he could be a great offensive weapon off the bench. We're gonna score a lot this season I'm sure. Defense-wise.. that's another story.

[mo7888]

I really wish fans looked at how Pop utilized him last year.

Forbes was constantly being asked to cover the tough assignments on the perimeter, while Patty or Tony always got the cup-cake easier assignment. We saw Forbes defending wings 6'6"+ more often than not and it DID NOT help him on the court. Pop put him in position to fail and one has to wonder why his shot was inconsistent. I always tell people, he had to be exhausted covering 2's/3's all damn year long.

I honestly think Forbes would excel if he was put in position to succeed -- I actually think he would be a positive on the defensive end if he was able to defend back up PGs, not bigger wings. Hopefully the Spurs can get rid of the terrible contract they gave Patty so people can see Forbes in his own element.

If this bad contract makes them get rid of mills's bad contract then I'm all for it but, let's not pretend that there's much hope that they're trading mills.

[Dverde]

he missed a lot of makeable shots. I think that will change. I also liked his intensity on defense. This guy couldn’t miss a shot in summer league...then he sucked in the regular season. That drama with his kids could explain it.

[sasaint]

If this bad contract makes them get rid of mills's bad contract then I'm all for it but, let's not pretend that there's much hope that they're trading mills.

If Manu doesn't return, Patty will be the longest tenured Spur by quite a bit. He will have seniority to go along with quite a bit of charisma, and Pop loves him. In the black hole of current Spurs leadership, he is virtually the new face of the franchise. He ain't going nowhere.

[mo7888]

If Manu doesn't return, Patty will be the longest tenured Spur by quite a bit. He will have seniority to go along with quite a bit of charisma, and Pop loves him. In the black hole of current Spurs leadership, he is virtually the new face of the franchise. He ain't going nowhere.

I think Manu returns but, otherwise..... I agree unfortunately

[sasaint]

he missed a lot of makeable shots. I think that will change. I also liked his intensity on defense. This guy couldn’t miss a shot in summer league...then he sucked in the regular season. That drama with his kids could explain it.

Drama with Bryn's kids? I didn't even know he had kids. What was the drama?

[sasaint]

I think Manu returns but, otherwise..... I agree unfortunately

I think Manu's return is a coin toss. I could see him assessing the current team and going either way: "Wow, this roster has no chance to compete" OR "Wow, I don't want to have last season be my last, and these guys could use a little of my leadership and 'culture'".

[SAGirl]

Got to help cover those extra family expenses.

[r0drig0lac]

Pop is helping him feed his kids.

Gotta say his shooting mechanics are stellar. It's clear that he has bought into the system, fits with the "family" and has one elite skill. It's old-school loyalty. It's the Spurs y'all.

[Mugen]

it just keeps getting worse and worse

[BatManu20]

I’ll believe it when I see it, tbh. I’d be surprised if he’s making that much.

[FkLA]

I honestly think Forbes would excel if he was put in position to succeed -- I actually think he would be a positive on the defensive end if he was able to defend back up PGs, not bigger wings. Hopefully the Spurs can get rid of the terrible contract they gave Patty so people can see Forbes in his own element.

Agree. When he wasn't on guys like Klay that tower over him, I thought he was a good defender. Overaggressive on closeouts sometimes, and he picked up some dumb fouls, but that can improve with more experience. The effort and desire is there.

[SAGirl]

I really wish fans looked at how Pop utilized him last year.

Forbes was constantly being asked to cover the tough assignments on the perimeter, while Patty or Tony always got the cup-cake easier assignment. We saw Forbes defending wings 6'6"+ more often than not and it DID NOT help him on the court. Pop put him in position to fail and one has to wonder why his shot was inconsistent. I always tell people, he had to be exhausted covering 2's/3's all damn year long.

I honestly think Forbes would excel if he was put in position to succeed -- I actually think he would be a positive on the defensive end if he was able to defend back up PGs, not bigger wings. Hopefully the Spurs can get rid of the terrible contract they gave Patty so people can see Forbes in his own element.

Will be the same this year. He's going to be slotted as a wing again which is one of the biggest problems I have with him. He's going to again be undersized and undertalented guarding bigger guys.

[SAGirl]

If Manu doesn't return, Patty will be the longest tenured Spur by quite a bit. He will have seniority to go along with quite a bit of charisma, and Pop loves him. In the black hole of current Spurs leadership, he is virtually the new face of the franchise. He ain't going nowhere.

Agreed.

[Mugen]

I’ll believe it when I see it, tbh. I’d be surprised if he’s making that much.

Would you really be surprised if he's making that much?

Look at what Beli, Bertans got....Pau/Patty last year.....

I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least 2yr/6mil for Bryn and RC probably thought that was a steal

[DPG21920]

That is, short term small money deal for 40% accuracy from 3.

But SA already has a ton of guards...

[DPG21920]

Him making 2M a year vs 3M doesn’t change anything - he’s a rotation player and it’s a tiny deal. Like Beli, all that matters is the details on the 2nd year.

Like Chinook said, it’s odd that we have turned to praying that contracts at least don’t hamstring SA vs celebrating wise decisions.

The issue is we all have our own timelines and aspiriations but we have 0 idea of what SA is doing. The ONLY thing we know to be true as of now: SA wants to be a playoff team.

We know nothing else. We don’t know if they truly want to win and will make short-term moves. We don’t know if they value cap space next year or any year. We don’t know if they are happy with Pau/Mills and feel that their deals are justified. We have no idea except for one thing.

[SAGirl]

I expect all these 2 year deals to be fully guaranteed at this point.

[Mugen]

They don't value 2019 capspace because Patty would have to be gone and Patty isn't going anywhere. Not with the turmoil/change they've experienced.

I mean it's pretty clear what their intentions are with the Derozan trade. Playoffs (4-8 seeds, with a 2nd round ceiling) while Pop is still around. Fans show up, they do okay on the business side of things.

Hopefully once Pop is gone, they can start clearing the deck (LMA, DeRozan), and 2 out of the 3 young guys would have shown something by then to be worthy re-building around. If they're very lucky, maybe they get a championship level team in the next 6-8 years. You need to be good at drafting to make that happen and that's probably been the only bright side from the front office post LMA signing.

[024]

You know it's bad when Spurs fans are bickering over 500k-1mil/year. I'm more angry the Spurs didn't push for a Gasol salary dump in the Leonard trade (even sending $5M over to the Raptors ) and instead traded away a wing with an expiring contract.

[TimDunkem]

They're just helping him set himself and his kids up for life. My nickname for him, "Charity Case" Bryn, seems to be more accurate than I thought.

[Marcus Bryant]

You know it's bad when Spurs fans are bickering over 500k-1mil/year. I'm more angry the Spurs didn't push for a Gasol salary dump in the Leonard trade (even sending $5M over to the Raptors ) and instead traded away a wing with an expiring contract.

Yeah, I'm really trying to understand the outrage here, but all I'm coming up with is people need to have more sex or drink more, tbh.

[SAGirl]

Yeah, I'm really trying to understand the outrage here, but all I'm coming up with is people need to have more sex or drink more, tbh.

I think some fans didn't want him back at any price is the issue.

Personally, if I was assured the guy was going to be matchup dependent as in, will only play when the opponent plays 2 PG lineups, or he's strict 3rd string PG, and injury insurance I'd be ok with it. In fact I am not outraged by the extra $500 k over a vet minimum he got. It's the likelyhood that he's counting as wing depth. Mills Forbes Belinelli lineups aren't forbidden to Pop. He's in the roster, they don't have wings, Forbes is going to be a wing.

[SpursDynasty85]

The guy tears up g league and summer league his first two years. The first year he gets some consistent playing he shoots the highest percentage from 3 on the Whole team. He ranks 10th on the team in defensive ratings, above Manu, Mills, Gay, and right behind Green (9th) and gets a small contract for about $3M/yr and is only 24 yrs old. The boards most vilified player.

Disrespectful people and fans this board conveys.

[BackHome]

Yeah, I'm really trying to understand the outrage here, but all I'm coming up with is people need to have more sex or drink more, tbh.

Yeah I have been after old Man Tholden to get laid he has been a grumpy old man ever since Kawhi became K-Y..