I think outrage is hyperbole. It’s pretty simple: Has Bryn really proven he’s worth more time/investment? Not at this point IMO. Does SA already have too many guards? Yes.Yeah, I'm really trying to understand the outrage here, but all I'm coming up with is people need to have more sex or drink more, tbh.
I mean, we are here to discuss basketball and the Spurs and while this isn’t a make or break move, it does not mean it could not and should not be discussed.
His body is looking good. Looking thick af. No .
He's going to have a good season, imo. The issue is roster construction, not him. The real mistake was bringing back Belli instead of keeping Kyle or adding another true SF. There's not enough length on the wing.
Not ideal but DeRozan, Bertans, and Gay can play SF. We should bring along Blossomgame for defense but money wise Belli gives us way more floor spreading for DeRozan who thrives at the driving on the pick and roll and getting fouls. He is a good playmaker too 5+ assists. He can kick it to the shooters we have. We should be ok. SG needs to be Mills and Belli (small) but we have good length and size at the pg with White and Murray. Slightly small guards but I assume we are playing bigger guys at SF spot. Manu if he comes back too.
Who? Gay and Bertans do not have the quickness or defensive chops to effectively defend the better wings in the league. Both are essentially small ball 4s.
Spurs need to find a defensive minded 3. Maybe a trade will present itself, will likely have to take on some salary using Gasol's contract.
You're right, this is more about roster construction than anything else. If we were able to move pau and mills for a sf, then added a center on the cheap, the deal would look much better than it does now.
We'd probably all feel better if there were some legitimate rumors based on leaks from the FO that we were trying to make more roster moves.
I agree with this, but am still slightly optimistic because of Pop's comments about how far along he has come developmentally. I still think Derrick White is gonna need an injury to one of the guards to fully realize his opportunity, but hopefully he can pull a Danny Green and cement his place in the rotation this season.
Yep. I really liked Ferrari his first stint, and I didn't want to lose him. But with the current roster composition re-signing him was not good. I would have preferred a legit SF and not Kyle instead of Marco. The ripple effect is quite harmful - especially to Forbes. If he could just play SG I think he would gain confidence and be a nice rotation piece.
No, it's his defense. He doesn't play it. Worse than his contract is the fact he's going to see court time and take minutes away from more deserving players. The real mistake was re-signing forbes after signing Beli.
Bryn's arms do look like he has put on some weight.. but how does this help him at his position.. We need him to make shots, not bully.
Right here with you.
exactly, the problem of having a bad player in the list, is that at some point it ends up being used, preferable to give this place some wing with size and athletics to be developed
In certain line ups they can and will play some 3. Otherwise it will be DeRozan, hopefully Manu, and Blossomgame or Cunningham. It is what it is. Not saying it is ideal but I think Bertans, especially is probably better suited at the 3 than 4.
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Bertans? Not nearly enough defensive chops to defend NBA SFs on the perimeter for more than spot minutes. DeMar is a sieve. Manu is way too old. Blossomgame hasn't really faced NBA talent yet, and Cunningham is a 4. We desperately need to move a couple of backcourt bodies and bring in a legit SF. Then all those guys you mentioned can give a few minutes at SF in relief.
Pop is gonna play him some as a wing, making additional muscle/bulk pretty important. I think that using him out of position like that, however, is just setting Bryn up for failure.
I can see Murray playing an important role in that department.
Meh, they’re probably just giving him the same money as had he’d been a late first round pick when he came in.
did not want him resigned. but i guess he can’t be worse than last season.
i’d take him over parker.
The flip side is that if he sucks and a team is looking to shed $3m in salary during the second season of his deal, he can be flipped for a pick or two. Concerning would be if he signed a 3/4 year deal, tbh...
Like DPG said, the relatively miniscule difference from what was thought to what is, is negligible. But it's yet another contract that's not a value one from their perspective. They're also already paying roughly $18M annually over the next 2 seasons for 2 better, more established versions (in what should be a niche role). To top it off, 1 of their 2 best players is better suited to playing the same position, so is probably their best prospect and another one of their prospects can play it too.
Is there any coherent plan anymore or is everything just based off of liking someone? Little to no regard for fit, money, term, etc.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...37#post9486137
It wasn't a fixed rate, like an exception, the 120% max utilizing his Bird rights or qualifying offer, so how did you nail his estimate?
I had nailed Kyle's deal and Bertans' original deal as well. A lot of its is just looking at what the rumors are and what makes sense. Nothing special...Like DPG said, the relatively miniscule difference from what was thought to what is, is negligible. But it's yet another contract that's not a value one from their perspective. They're also already paying roughly $18M annually over the next 2 seasons for 2 better, more established versions (in what should be a niche role). To top it off, 1 of their 2 best players is better suited to playing the same position, so is probably their best prospect and another one of their prospects can play it too.
Is there any coherent plan anymore or is everything just based off of liking someone? Little to no regard for fit, money, term, etc.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...37#post9486137
... I mean, I have sources.
If Pincus is to be believed, you didn't quite nail it down to the decimal points. Still, I'm generally good at hypothesizing deals too, but to get it that close without any of the things I mentioned, is impressive.
Ha ha ha! Awesome.
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