"The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign.
. . .
Notwithstanding Source #1's reason for conducting the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia, based on Source #1's previous reporting history with the FBI, whereby Source #1 provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes Source #1's reporting herein to be credible."
but they didnt disclose the political oppo source
one issue is that they cite to the September 23 article (for which we have learned, iirc, that Steele was the source to) as an additional source, although that is clearly redundant with source #1.
but then that is followed by about 6 pages of reactions, BEFORE getting to their conclusion that they have probable cause. so unless those 6 pages are incoherent rambling, its irresponsible to say "omg that's all they relied on"
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one of the keys is that they didnt push the entire dossier as credible/verified to the judge... only to support page's contacts with rosneft/divyekin.
just because 100% of the dossier hasn't been verified doesn't mean that, say, 15% has. and if they only presented that 15% to the judge, i dont see why there would be an issue
That isn't going to stop the delusional nutters from using it, any more than creationists use the same tropes, or Cosmored's "what about the jacket flap" schtick."The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign.
. . .
Notwithstanding Source #1's reason for conducting the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia, based on Source #1's previous reporting history with the FBI, whereby Source #1 provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes Source #1's reporting herein to be credible."
one issue is that they cite to the September 23 article (for which we have learned, iirc, that Steele was the source to) as an additional source, although that is clearly redundant with source #1.
but then that is followed by about 6 pages of reactions, BEFORE getting to their conclusion that they have probable cause. so unless those 6 pages are incoherent rambling, its irresponsible to say "omg that's all they relied on"
the second application has 15.5 redacted pages in between those sections... that's 9.5 more pages than the previous one, which is consistent with the requirements for the renewal of a FISA warrant... to have separate findings of probable cause.
the third has over 25 redacted pages in that section
the 4th has over 30
they added new information each time and got separate findings of PC
lol"The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign.
. . .
Notwithstanding Source #1's reason for conducting the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia, based on Source #1's previous reporting history with the FBI, whereby Source #1 provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes Source #1's reporting herein to be credible."
one issue is that they cite to the September 23 article (for which we have learned, iirc, that Steele was the source to) as an additional source, although that is clearly redundant with source #1.
but then that is followed by about 6 pages of reactions, BEFORE getting to their conclusion that they have probable cause. so unless those 6 pages are incoherent rambling, its irresponsible to say "omg that's all they relied on"
Also, the parts of the dossier that turned out to be the most accurate and quickly verified were those concerning Carter Page.
Add to that Page's previous FISA warrant and his own admission as far back as 2013 that he was an "informal adviser" to the Kremlin -- what more are Darrin and TSA demanding for poor, innocent Carter Page?
well those are my thoughts after skimming through it. was in vegas this past weekend so i'm a little late to the party
So basically the Steele Dossier was right, and the more they dug, the more stuff of what he was doing they found, exactly what one would expect from someone actually doing something wrong that is investigated.
Don't forget Cohen is in the dossier as well. The one who is about to roll over, and who... taped Trump without Trump knowing.
Stupid Watergate strikes again.
At the very least the warrants on Page led to useful foreign intel for almost a full year.
But yeah, Darrin just wants to say "pee pee" again.
Harder to verify but not impossible. The Page parts started being publicly verified before the first renewal application.
Speaking of funny:
Lol mueller has to give 5 people immunity to try to bring down Manafort
Manafort
Sanctions Galore! The 22 Times Trump Has Slapped Down Putin
Bet all 5 given immunity have democrats connections
13 very wricked people
i agree, considering everyone doing the investigating is republican.
The very next tweet
Was Podesta on of the five that got use immunity?
Yes or no.
Tony Podesta worked for Manafort, John Podesta worked for Clinton(s)
According to court filings unsealed by Ellis on Monday, Mueller had requested immunity for Dennis Raico, Cindy Laporta, Conor O’Brien, Donna Duggan and James Brennan.
*edit: ah, this is for virginia case, not DC case
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*edit: see previous post
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DC trial isn't set to start for two months and Techno_Fog thinks immunity deals have already been filed and in no way could possibly accept that Tuck was simply cucked.
still, is tucker really the only source for podesta getting immunity for the DC case?
He never specified which case. Said he had two sauces.
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