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    I was thinking more in terms of Manu contemplating retirement every season since that time.

    I thought he'd be the first of the big 3 to leave (retire).

    No arguments from me on your point on Tony. Pretty much the same with Timmy. He may not have left in FA, but his departure was the result of his good right knee being injured.
    The difference with TD was that, while he was no longer a franchise centerpiece, until his other knee gave, he was an effective scorer, rebounder, and most important, he was a nearly All D defender right up to the end. That's why he continued as a Spur until 39, and Tony was shown the door at 37.

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    What I took from Pop's statements was that LW4 reminded him of Manu as a PERSON. Manu was more his own man than probably any other Spurs player who had a long career playing at AS level. He and Pop almost didn't click at all, and it was pretty touch and go for a while. Pop's a different guy now, though.

    I think he sees a kid who is very intelligent and independent in his thinking.
    this is the article i was going by: https://www.expressnews.com/spurs-na...u-13092194.php

    and specifically when pop said “The one thought that went through my head when (Walker) would use some of that athleticism and do something a little off the cuff, I started to think about Manu when he was young,”

    but i do think that pop was probably referring as much to walker's mental aspect as to the physical aspect, if not more. of course, they are both left handed.

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    Um, Derrick White can also handle the ball and would likely soak up Manu's minutes (with Mills or Murray).

    As much as it pains to say this the team needs to finally move on from the "Big 3" era. Start playing the young guards (not just Murray) and building them up with NBA reps (White killed in the G League and needs NBA time].
    I agree completely. Time to move on. Thank you Manu for all you did but we need to go young and let these kids play

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    I was thinking more in terms of Manu contemplating retirement every season since that time.

    I thought he'd be the first of the big 3 to leave (retire).

    No arguments from me on your point on Tony. Pretty much the same with Timmy. He may not have left in FA, but his departure was the result of his good right knee being injured.
    The wheels finally fell off.

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    I think Tony's injury rapidly accelerated his decline, and the combination of all of the young guards, and his almost complete inability to play D anymore made his departure necessary.
    Yeah, it was a combination of things. The injury was the huge one, we saw flashes of MVParker against the Grizz in 2017. I don't know if it was 100x worse than Kawhi's cause we still don't know what the is wrong with Kawhi, but Parker's injury was horrendous in terms of ability to come back from it.

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    I probably should already know this, but if Manu decides to retire, what happens to the $2.5M he is due next season? Does he lose it? Does it get stretched?

    I thought I recall that they stretched Timmy's money when he left, but I can't recall if that was the same situation. I think I've blocked out too many of those memories to be sure.

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    Only as a mentor to the young team, though Spurs is thin in SF position and could use his defense

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    I probably should already know this, but if Manu decides to retire, what happens to the $2.5M he is due next season? Does he lose it? Does it get stretched?

    I thought I recall that they stretched Timmy's money when he left, but I can't recall if that was the same situation. I think I've blocked out too many of those memories to be sure.
    It’s up to SA. If Manu retires he technically forfeits the money. But SA could still decide to pay him and then it would count against the cap.

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    It’s up to SA. If Manu retires he technically forfeits the money. But SA could still decide to pay him and then it would count against the cap.
    Thanks

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    Only as a mentor to the young team, though Spurs is thin in SF position and could use his defense
    But I believe that the best thing about him retiring now is that if he does retire I think the Spurs would feel inclined to make a move to land a true SF.

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    I agree but with the lost of Tony, Green, Kyle, never mind Kawhi, in one season, that’s too much corporate knowledge lost. Marco is a great addition. But man, I almost can’t recognize the team.

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    The wheels finally fell off.


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    I hope Pop has a talk with him the same way he did with Boban and others, tell him to pursue the better move for his career right now, which is going to the Warriors..

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    I hope Pop has a talk with him the same way he did with Boban and others, tell him to pursue the better move for his career right now, which is going to the Warriors..

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    Manu joining the Warriors, beating the Lakers in round 2 and then Kawhi's Raptors in the Finals is the only path for vengeance for the Spurs..

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    The difference with TD was that, while he was no longer a franchise centerpiece, until his other knee gave, he was an effective scorer, rebounder, and most important, he was a nearly All D defender right up to the end. That's why he continued as a Spur until 39, and Tony was shown the door at 37.
    Tony is only 36 not 37, exstatic. Although, I agree with your general premise and points about Tony, Tim and Manu.

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    I hope Pop has a talk with him the same way he did with Boban and others, tell him to pursue the better move for his career right now, which is going to the Warriors..
    He's still under contract, so if he keeps playing he isn't going anywhere.

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    Hopefully he comes back. Will be hard to cheer for the team without him.

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    I probably should already know this, but if Manu decides to retire, what happens to the $2.5M he is due next season? Does he lose it? Does it get stretched?

    I thought I recall that they stretched Timmy's money when he left, but I can't recall if that was the same situation. I think I've blocked out too many of those memories to be sure.
    I believe he gets paid regardless.

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    one more year manu, you know you're capable of it.

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    Manu is my favorite Spur of all time. I hope he returns, if for no other reason but to hit each of our new rookies in the ear hole with one of his impossible passes, just to teach them to always be looking for the pass. If this occurs during a game, it’s great entertainment!

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    It does seem odd that no decision has (publicly) been made yet.

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    ^^^^ Un poco mas Manu

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