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    Why would it not be the hope?
    It sure reads like you want Murray to get traded for Bayless. I think you might mean Mills, and that if Murray shows progress that they can move on from Mills. But as worded in that paragraph, it reads like Murray because the context goes back some way if you meant Mills.

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    Why would it not be the hope?
    It sure reads like you want Murray to get traded for Bayless. I think you might mean Mills, and that if Murray shows progress that they can move on from Mills. But as worded in that paragraph, it reads like Murray because the context goes back some way if you meant Mills.
    That's how I read it. I hope Chin means Mills for Bayless which I would do in a heartbeat.

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    It sure reads like you want Murray to get traded for Bayless. I think you might mean Mills, and that if Murray shows progress that they can move on from Mills. But as worded in that paragraph, it reads like Murray because the context goes back some way if you meant Mills.
    That's how I read it. I hope Chin means Mills for Bayless which I would do in a heartbeat.
    It was in direct reply to a post saying talking about PATFO trading Mills. Murray for Bayless doesn't even work under this (or really any recent) CBA. You can accuse me of lots of things, but proposing obviously illegal trades is not one of them.

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    Great Defensive players get kept. You're on some bull narrative that doesn't make sense. And DG was breaking down by the end of the season and Fathead can't stay in front of anyone. That doesn't scream stopping anyone.
    The Spurs wanted to keep Anderson, they just couldn't afford him. And Green is a casualty of Kawhi's ness.
    If he was great like you said, they'd roll out 8mil a year bro.

    And DG was breaking down. All facts.
    DAF you take an L for this one.

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    Great Defensive players get kept. You're on some bull narrative that doesn't make sense. And DG was breaking down by the end of the season and Fathead can't stay in front of anyone. That doesn't scream stopping anyone.
    The Spurs wanted to keep Anderson, they just couldn't afford him. And Green is a casualty of Kawhi's ness.
    Green and Anderson were two great defensive wings.

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    Bowen was a 30 year old with similar stats to 31 year old Cunningham when he came to the Spurs. Just saying.

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    DAF you take an L for this one.
    I guess facts don't mean now, you can just claim something and pretend is true.

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    Individual defense is overrated except against LeBron who you can't double & has destroyed many elite team defenses......
    What elite team defenses were in the eastern conference? LOL. Lebron hasn't played notable teams until the Finals every single year. Celtics and Sixers finally become contenders and Lebron bolts to LA where he can sit back enjoy Hollywood with 0 expectations to win. Got to admit things worked out pretty well for him.

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    Bowen was a 30 year old with similar stats to 31 year old Cunningham when he came to the Spurs. Just saying.
    Wow did not know Bowen was 30 when he started with the spurs. I had to look it up on reference.

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    Rotation should be Murray-White-DeRozan backed up by Mills-Marco-Manu and Forbes as emergency. Some staggering of course.

    It's too bad White isn't bigger. If he was a legit 6-6 they'd be in better shape.
    Is this with Gay and LMA as the frontcourt? Just curious

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    Bowen was a 30 year old with similar stats to 31 year old Cunningham when he came to the Spurs. Just saying.
    So Cunningham signed with the Spurs because he sees a path to getting his jersey retired.

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    So Cunningham signed with the Spurs because he sees a path to getting his jersey retired.
    I'm sure Avery Johnson thought the same thing after being cut by the Spurs three times.

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    Bowen was a 30 year old with similar stats to 31 year old Cunningham when he came to the Spurs. Just saying.
    Wow. Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten.

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    Is this with Gay and LMA as the frontcourt? Just curious
    Either that or Pau-LMA. It makes for a crowded frontcourt rotation trying to fit in LMA, Gay, Pau, Poeltl, and Bertans but I figure Manu will have limited minutes and rest creating time at the SF for Gay or even Bertans. Plus Pau on a fossil preservation program.

    Mostly it's about getting the best players on the court as much as they can, and that means a lot of White, who is better in my opinion as an all around complete player than Mills or Forbes or Marco, and maybe Manu at this point. Could even be a better point guard than Murray.

    But I'm realistic.

    I know it will probably be a Mills & Forbes show with White getting DNP-CDs and garbage time.

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    Forbes getting more minutes than White this year would be a ing travesty, I would hope Pop retires by the trade deadline if that happened. Bryn is absolutely ing terrible.

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    Bowen was a 30 year old with similar stats to 31 year old Cunningham when he came to the Spurs. Just saying.
    Bowen was already all-defense second team with Miami before he ever became a Spur.

    Cunningham ... Not so much

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    Unfortunately for Poeltl, despite already being an elite backup, at this point Gay is a PF and Aldridge a C (even though I expect him to continue mostly starting/playing PF for the first 6 minutes of the 1st/3rd) and there's just no room for 3 of the latter in a rotation in today's NBA. Considering the lack of 3-point shooting from what projects to be their 4 highest minute players (those 2, plus DeRozan and Murray), they also need as much shooting as they can get.


    I do hope that Pop would go with either a Murray-White-DeRozan trio or a big Murray-DeRozan-Gay trio though I know that spacing isn't great

    Mills starting and having to watch him run around doing nothing and getting shot over just gives me a headache.

    At least White on defense is as close as you can get to smaller Green with the blocks and contests. After Murray, White is probably the best wing defender on the team, and he has three point range.

    Rotation should be Murray-White-DeRozan backed up by Mills-Marco-Manu and Forbes as emergency. Some staggering of course.

    It's too bad White isn't bigger. If he was a legit 6-6 they'd be in better shape.
    Yeah, if Ginobili returns, starting White should be a no brainer. Mills/Belinelli are not only not starters, but have established chemistry with Ginobili. Unfortunately, if it happens at all, it'll probably take until midseason.

    Murray's being fast tracked to starter was aided by Parker's injury and the fact that they viewed him as the successor/heir apparent. Walker is more than likely viewed as Murray's eventual backcourt mate, with White the third guard/6th man. Barring the acquisition of a 3 and D starting wing, I suspect this transition takes place during the '19-'20 season.

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    I’m the system, I can turn Bryn into Bowen as you witnessed in the postseason. #watchmework

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    Either that or Pau-LMA. It makes for a crowded frontcourt rotation trying to fit in LMA, Gay, Pau, Poeltl, and Bertans but I figure Manu will have limited minutes and rest creating time at the SF for Gay or even Bertans. Plus Pau on a fossil preservation program.

    Mostly it's about getting the best players on the court as much as they can, and that means a lot of White, who is better in my opinion as an all around complete player than Mills or Forbes or Marco, and maybe Manu at this point. Could even be a better point guard than Murray.

    But I'm realistic.

    I know it will probably be a Mills & Forbes show with White getting DNP-CDs and garbage time.
    Mills off the bench is a must. He has potential of being 6th man of the year imo. he is a good player. Look we trashed on him last year but i think most spursfans know he was overplayed.

    I'm still not sure of having DeRozan at the 3 spot, I don't mind white starting but obviously that pushes demar at the 3 which I'm not sure yet. I'm sure pop will play with lineups like he usually does. But having Murray-Demar-Gay-LMA-Jakob has a bit more size but probably less speed.

    I just hope mills comes off the bench. And Forbes is last in the rotation of the guards.

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    What elite team defenses were in the eastern conference? LOL. Lebron hasn't played notable teams until the Finals every single year. Celtics and Sixers finally become contenders and Lebron bolts to LA where he can sit back enjoy Hollywood with 0 expectations to win. Got to admit things worked out pretty well for him.
    Pistons/Bulls/Celtics/Pacers/Celtics were all top 5 defenses when he beat em.

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    Lol. Pacers took a Lebron Super team to 7 games 2 years in a row. That is more a Pacers success than Lebrons. Celtics were OLD and not elite. Pistons were pretty good but they were getting up there in age too. I will give it to Lebron in 2007. That was amazing he made it to the finals but honestly Pistons showed they were Done at that point. Bulls?? Lol. Derrick Rose lead Bulls? Man all those teams are so forgettable. His stats are impressive but the compe ion in the East is terrible.

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