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    You already admitted you have no evidence proving it would normally be included in a FISA application.

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    Question pending.
    You are admitting the FBI was not straightforward with the court.

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    No. You never stated where in the Numes memo were the lies. Try again. Where were the lies?
    I already explained to you.

    You said you didn't understand.

    You want to pretend such a disclosure would be necessary and standard on a FISA application.

    You admitted you have no evidence it would be necessary and required.

    Moving on.

    What information from the dossier was used?

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    You are admitting the FBI was not straightforward with the court.

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    I admitted the information you demanded was not there.


    What information from the dossier was used?

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    No.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?
    If it was insignificant the FBI would not have hesitated to include it in the application.

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    I already explained to you.

    You said you didn't understand.

    You want to pretend such a disclosure would be necessary and standard on a FISA application.

    You admitted you have no evidence it would be necessary and required.

    Moving on.

    What information from the dossier was used?
    List the lies from the Nunes memo one by one. I’ll wait.

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    If it was insignificant the FBI would not have hesitated to include it in the application.
    You're saying it's the FBI's goal to include as much insignificant information as possible in a FISA warrant.

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    List the lies from the Nunes memo one by one. I’ll wait.
    You don't even know what information they used!

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    If it was insignificant the FBI would not have hesitated to include it in the application.
    a) That doesn't answer my question. So I'll re-ask: What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?

    b) You are saying the FBI would have included it if it was insignificant? lol. That makes no sense. Should they also include their favorite color since it's insignificant?

    But don't answer part b. That was rhetorical. I just want you to tell me what the significance would be.

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    If it was insignificant the FBI would not have hesitated to include it in the application.

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    You don't even know what information they used!
    Still waiting.

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    a) That doesn't answer my question. So I'll re-ask: What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?

    b) You are saying the FBI would have included it if it was insignificant? lol. That makes no sense. Should they also include their favorite color since it's insignificant?

    But don't answer part b. That was rhetorical. I just want you to tell me what the significance would be.
    Using an opposing campaign’s opposition research to obtain a FISA warrant would be significant. Do you not think the court would want to know that?

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    The conspiracy theory about the FBI withholding the Steele Dossier's funding source requires the following two beliefs:

    1. Funding sources dictate the results of research
    2. The FBI thought they could hide the funding source forever

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    Still waiting.
    I told you. You don't want to accept it and you don't even know what information from the dossier was used.

    You can't even admit that Podesta wasn't on of the five people pardoned.

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    Using an opposing campaign’s opposition research to obtain a FISA warrant would be significant. Do you not think the court would want to know that?
    So the court would then know it was political opposition research meant to discredit Trump!

    Oh, they already knew that.

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    The conspiracy theory about the FBI withholding the Steele Dossier's funding source requires the following two beliefs:

    1. Funding sources dictate the results of research
    2. The FBI thought they could hide the funding source forever
    1. They most definitely do.
    2. The top 3 from the FBI are gone and all under investigation for the FISA application.

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    So the court would then know it was political opposition research meant to discredit Trump!

    Oh, they already knew that.
    Did the court know who funded it?

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    I told you. You don't want to accept it and you don't even know what information from the dossier was used.

    You can't even admit that Podesta wasn't on of the five people pardoned.

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    I can admit Podesta wasn’t one of the five granted immunity.

    Can you list all the lies in the Nunes memo?

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    Did the court know who funded it?
    No.

    What would that change, TSA?

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    I can admit Podesta wasn’t one of the five granted immunity.
    A day later and after making excuses.

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    No.

    What would that change, TSA?
    I don’t think they would have approved the warrant.

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    A day later and after making excuses.
    You’re on day 2 of refusing to list all the lies in the Nunes memo.

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    1. They most definitely do.
    I know you believe this. I'm just pointing out what you have to believe to buy into this.

    And you're wrong. No research company who wants to continue getting projects is going to invent results to please a client. Why would you hire a company you expect will return bull ?

    2. The top 3 from the FBI are gone and all under investigation for the FISA application.
    Are you trying to suggest Comey, McCabe and Strozk were fired over the FISA application?

    As for the investigation, consider the investigators.

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    Can you list all the lies in the Nunes memo?
    The lie was pretending all the names and payment amounts should have been included in the application. There was nothing about masking those in the memo.

    Multiple names and figures. Multiple lies.

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    You’re on day 2 of refusing to list all the lies in the Nunes memo.
    Listed.

    Moving on.

    What parts of the dossier were used in the FISA application?

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    Nunes quickly finding himself on an island.

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