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    I don’t believe a FISC judge would sign off on the warrant had they known a significant portion of the evidence provided in the application was unverified dirt paid for by the opposing campaign.
    On what do you base this belief? Your intense hatred of Hillary Clinton?

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    The lie was pretending all the names and payment amounts should have been included in the application. There was nothing about masking those in the memo.

    Multiple names and figures. Multiple lies.
    That isn’t a lie from the Nunes memo. You really don’t have any lies from the Nunes memo

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    That isn’t a lie from the Nunes memo. You really don’t have any lies from the Nunes memo
    You are free to believe that.

    What information from the dossier was used in the FISA warrant?

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    I know you believe this. I'm just pointing out what you have to believe to buy into this.

    And you're wrong. No research company who wants to continue getting projects is going to invent results to please a client. Why would you hire a company you expect will return bull ?
    Fusion GPS is a smear factory that does exactly that., invent results to please their client. I can’t believe you are going to bat for them knowing their history. Do you believe Bill Browder is guilty?


    Are you trying to suggest Comey, McCabe and Strozk were fired over the FISA application?

    As for the investigation, consider the investigators.
    I’m suggesting it’s hard to keep something hidden when you are no longer in control.

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    Using an opposing campaign’s opposition research to obtain a FISA warrant would be significant. Do you not think the court would want to know that?
    Sorry, question pending.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?

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    You are free to believe that.
    its the truth

    What information from the dossier was used in the FISA warrant?
    let me get my unredacter glasses on and get back to you.

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    Fusion GPS is a smear factory that does exactly that., invent results to please their client. I can’t believe you are going to bat for them knowing their history.
    Is Orbis a smear factory that invents results to please their client?

    What is their history?

    What is Steele's history?

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    let me get my unredacter glasses on and get back to you.
    ALL of it's use is redacted, TSA?

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    Sorry, question pending.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?
    That is the significance in and of itself.

    Do you not think it is significant? Why would the FBI purposely leave that out?

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    1. They most definitely do.
    2. The top 3 from the FBI are gone and all under investigation for the FISA application.
    The #1and #2 have been fired, #2 is charged with a crime. #3 is demoted to HR, reported to FBI OPR, and under investigation. I have confidence the ins ution is being cleaned and will most definitely survive.
    why was the #1 fired
    It’s an impossible question for me to answer that’s why I’ve ignored your repeated attempts. Only Trump can answer your question.
    still pimping comey firing to back up his claims despite admittedly not being able to answer why he was fired

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    That is the significance in and of itself.

    Do you not think it is significant? Why would the FBI purposely leave that out?
    Question pending.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?

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    Is Orbis a smear factory that invents results to please their client?

    What is their history?

    What is Steele's history?
    Don’t care about Orbis we are talking about Fusion GPS and Steele. Steele is a liar who was terminated by the FBI and presently being sued in court for claims he made in the dossier. You really trying to paint him as credible? Is Fusion GPS credible?

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    still pimping comey firing to back up his claims despite admittedly not being able to answer why he was fired
    I can only provide you Rosenstein’s letter.

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    Question pending.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?
    Question answered and 2 questions pending.

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    Question answered and 2 questions pending.
    question #1 was not answered

    I asked "What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?"

    You said "That is the significance in and of itself."

    That's circular. "The significance of A is A."

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    Don’t care about Orbis we are talking about Fusion GPS and Steele.
    Steele is Orbis.

    Fusion GPS hired Orbis, which is Steele.

    Steele went to the FBI.

    You're trying to say Fusion GPS took the extra step of hiring Orbis/Steele because he would somehow be better at making things up.

    What is your evidence Steele had a bad reputation before the dossier?

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    That is the significance in and of itself.


    Circular logic is circular.

    TSA loves him pee pee play, because pee pee play is something he loves.

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    The conspiracy theory about the FBI withholding the Steele Dossier's funding source requires the following two beliefs:

    1. Funding sources dictate the results of research
    2. The FBI thought they could hide the funding source forever
    I should add a third.

    3. The judges who granted the FISA application, knowing it was politically funded, would have acted differently if they knew it was politically funded specifically by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

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    That isn’t a lie from the Nunes memo. You really don’t have any lies from the Nunes memo
    "Don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. Just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."

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    "This dossier was politically funded..."
    "Okay, we'll allow it."
    "...by the Clinton campaign and the DNC."
    "Hold on a second!"

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    I should add a third.

    3. The judges who granted the FISA application, knowing it was politically funded, would have acted differently if they knew it was politically funded specifically by the DNC and Clinton campaign.
    So brilliantly devious. HOW COULD THEY?!?!?! (clutches pearls)

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    Steele is Orbis.

    Fusion GPS hired Orbis, which is Steele.

    Steele went to the FBI.

    You're trying to say Fusion GPS took the extra step of hiring Orbis/Steele because he would somehow be better at making things up.

    What is your evidence Steele had a bad reputation before the dossier?
    I never said Steele had a bad reputation before the dossier. Why do you lie?

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    question #1 was not answered

    I asked "What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?"

    You said "That is the significance in and of itself."

    That's circular. "The significance of A is A."
    Are you aware of the FISC court ever granting a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign knowing the evidence was funded and provided by the opposing campaign? If you’re answer is no, would that then make such a thing significant?

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    Are you aware of the FISC court ever granting a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign knowing the evidence was funded and provided by the opposing campaign? If you’re answer is no, would that then make such a thing significant?
    Are you aware of a FISA court granting a warrant to spy on a Presidential campaign knowing the evidence was politically funded, but thinking it was funded by that campaign?

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    Are you aware of the FISC court ever granting a warrant to spy on a presidential campaign knowing the evidence was funded and provided by the opposing campaign? If you’re answer is no, would that then make such a thing significant?
    Sorry, question pending.

    What would be the significance of the court being told candidate #2/campaign #2 funded the dossier?

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