Spurs Need to Go All-In

[sasaint]

They're rolling the dice on him, and I like it. I've already agreed that White is better now. The thing is, White will never break out and be a superstar. DJ could. It may only be a 5 or 10% chance, but a small market team has to take that chance. It's been pretty well established that we're not likely to pull a top shelf FA, and the only other way is to have high draft picks, to tank. If you can do a re-load instead of a rebuild, and come out of it with a top flight 2-way PG, you're set for another 10 years of winning tradition.

I also love that he just FRUSTRATES Westbrook. You can't really ever shut down a superstar, but I think he does the best job of any defensive PG of messing up his game, and getting him unfocused and thinking of the matchup instead of the game.

As long as his skill set doesn't really suit him to PG or SG, then give him room and board at Chip's, spending day and night developing a 3-ball, and hope he turns into a devastating 2-guard. He doesn't also need to improve his handles and develop court vision/passing skill to be a very good SG. He just needs to develop in too many areas for me to think he even has a 10% chance of becoming a really good PG. it seems to me that court vision/passing skill are much more innate than learned. Use the guy who has those innate skills as a PG and use Murray as a SG/wing where his handles are not so critical and there isn't such a need for playmaking. I think White's career is about to be wasted, just as he was relegated needlessly to the GLeague all of last season. Murray is an intriguing, athletic tweener.

[Trueblood]

What could we legitimately get for Pau/Mills +SA 1st in 2019+Tor 1st 2019+Spurs 2020 1st?

Can't give up 1st in consecutive years. It would have to be 2021 and other than a moronic move by Miami, NO ONE wants to give up picks in the double draft

[r0drig0lac]

I do not think White's ceiling is limited (no one really knows in this moment), his shot and his intelligence (mostly in pnr) make him a guy who could at some point if all goes well, play on an all star level in the current league (illegal screens and impossibility of using physicality), a guard only needs this to be very good

[Mugen]

I don't want it to happen but Manu retiring makes the roster makeup a little more clear. If he does come back then you are looking at this as your two best lineups

Murray/White/Derozan/Gay/LMA

Mills/Manu/Beli/Bertans/Poertl

Honestly, that's a pretty damn good 10 man rotation except for the lack of a defensive SF. That leaves you with Pau as the odd man out and I'm not sure what you trade him for without the risk of squeezing White out of the rotation.

If Manu retires, then you can flip Pau for a Demarre Caroll type and still have a top 4 lineup in the West tbh.

[TD 21]

Spurs should not trade Murray, White or Lonnie for a win now piece.

The two 1st round picks in 19, future 1sts in 20, rights to Milutinov, Belinelli ( eventually), Bertans ( eventually), Forbes ( eventually), Pau, Patty are all fair game.

I would not trade 21 yr old DeJounte for Kemba.

Me either. I only wanted Walker because it made sense to go all in with Leonard. Without him, there's no feasible path to a championship for the foreseeable future and Aldridge and DeRozan should be able to provide a baseline of compe iveness as is.

Instead of being something like the 6th best team in the West, they'd probably be 3rd with Walker, but the end result would still be no chance of beating 1.

Pau Gasol to Detriot for Stanley Johnson & Jon Leuer.

Waive Brandon Paul.

The Pistons are desperate to make the playoffs, lacking flexibility, young assets and depth at his (coveted) position. As underwhelming as he's been, I can't see them salary dumping him.

Value wise, it would be worth a shot for the Spurs. But their 4 projected minute leaders already provide little 3-point shooting, something he can't help with (unless he drastically improves). Also, unless Ginobili retires, adding another rotational perimeter player means White gets squeezed.

[SpursDynasty85]

Nobody was saying to keep Harris but he is & was undoubtedly an asset in addition to picks to either keep or flip for a Jimmy Butler possibly. Without giving up Danny Green either. That was undoubtedly the better route than this roster full of guards.

Tobias and Gay seem a bit redundant. I thought it was the two lottery picks too. This deal is definitely better since we get at least 2 years of DeRozan.