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Huh? After two years these contracts all go away. GSW might be done by then.
They clearly made the decision to put the now over the future of the franchise. They had offers of multiple picks and opted to take a package with one pick that is medicore at best and worthless at worst.
If that is the case, you need to go all-in. This roster is too flawed and too unbalanced to trade Kawhi for that package because you want to “win” and not actually you know “try to win”.
They cannot let this roster stand as is IMO. They have to push way harder based on their decisions. Losing Kyle/TP for Beli/Cunningham is not anywhere in the realm of good enough if you are putting now over the franchises future with the trading of your best asset.
Win-now if you are going to win-now.
Huh? After two years these contracts all go away. GSW might be done by then.
The Dubs got Cousins. Game over bro.
What does that have to do with it. Who cares if SA can clear the books in 2 years? They didn’t get back any long-term assets in the Kawhi Deal. They care about winning now knowing GS exists. So push it. Go all-in and worry about 2 years in 2 years.
are you suggesting another trade
OP lost his mind like ma nig DAF
Agreed but they won't tbh. Sounds like they are high on Murray and he's literally the only piece that could reasonably bring back All Star talent like Kemba.
Cousins is likely finished, tbh..
They could get Lebron that they won't have a chance at a championship. Just play these seasons, mantain the playoffs streak alive and hope that Murray, White and/or Walker become stars.
Disagree. Pau having a partial guarantee and being willing to part with multiple picks (TOR and your own) should net a very positive player in the 14-18M range.
I don’t want Murray/White/Lonnie traded, but if SA could get Kemba by giving up Murray? Fine.
Pop doesn't give a , OP. Once again today he belittled basketball as a little kid's game and meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
He just wants to be good enough to not suck until he's gone in 2020. He ed everything Duncan built. Two unhappy superstars in 2 years and he just traded for another one. Not to mention he let the greatest PG in franchise history walk away for less than what that scrub Bertans is making. He's lost it.
The now is 2 to 3 years. Hopefully by then we know where white, walker, Murray, and Poeltl stand. No one beats Warriors this year. But I have been saying that warriors will be a different team 2020. The window reopens. Rockets might have missed the window. In the meantime, winning playoff games will be fun compared to hoping we don't win too many regular season games.
Not sure how the cap space works out the next 1 or 2 years but trading more guys isn't usually the Spurs way either. Spurs are methodical and it takes time to groom personalities and players into the Spurs system. Just gotta hope one or two of Walker, White, Murray turns into an all star in 3 years when Aldridge, Gay, and Derozan become old.
DPG you are solid poster but your just leading an exodus that is not gonna happen. Why you gonna instigate so many people here??? It's post like this that build false hope and ultimately leads to more anger. You have no idea what picks were offered and until you do it's hard to argue that it's more value. We all thought packages were better than they were cause we have the goggles of what a healthy Kawhi SHOULD bring back but the reality is much farther than that. As fans from our perspective it's hard to understand just how bad the market was and we tried to believe that we had leverage in any way when in reality we didn't. We were up against the clock. Been saying it for a couple seasons now but the League is getting smarter. We got about the same package as Indy got for Paul George except we got a pick, like it or hate it. It's a buyers market right now.
Okay, cool suggestion bro.
What does goig all in loook like? Who do we get? How do we get them.
Layout the plan or your just throwing at the wall tbh.
What could we legitimately get for Pau/Mills +SA 1st in 2019+Tor 1st 2019+Spurs 2020 1st?
Doubt it. Murray would have to be involved which I'm fine with tbh.
Murray/Pau/Mills/1st for Kemba/Batum works financially and would actually make sense for the roster and the team's goals (yes Batum has a horrible contract). Charlotte does it to get off of Batum's horrible contract and get back players Borrego is familiar with...
Kemba/Derozan/Batum/LMA/Poetl....that's 2nd in the West with an outside chance of knocking out the Dubs....
It's the type of trade they need to do, but I highly doubt they will. So much shakeup already this offseason and I just know Pop/RC won't have the cajones to fire off another bullet.
If the Spurs suspect Kawhi is broken, I'd trade that protected pick ASAP before it turns into two second rounders.
Kyle would have been a terrible fit next to DeRozan and Murray. Like literally unplayable bad.
I’m posting what I believe. I don’t troll. I believe the reports that PHI/BOS offered pick heavy packages. It’s not a guess or a lie; its been reported.
The picks they have a far better than the pick SA got and getting picks and expiring would be rebuild, while still being able to maybe be a playoff team.
SA clearly wanted to win. Unless they got an insane young talent like Embiid they always valued getting the best win-now player they could.
I’m fine with that and understand it. I’m saying, don’t half ass it now. It’s not just about beating GS but put yourself in a stronger position to be the 2nd seed and get win-now players if you can.
I’m not going to fume if they don’t; I just hope they are trying.
They aren't trying to contend, they're trying to be a treadmill team in basketball purgatory so Pop doesn't have to go out on a bottom-feeder. They'll try to keep relevant to keep the cash flow going while Pop does his farewell tour regardless of how it hurts the team.
The Toronto 1st is almost worthless. (Top 20 protected).
Maybe Gasol/Mills +Spurs 2019 1st +Tor 2019 1st +Spurs 2020 1st for Butler??
I think they're rebuilding on the fly just like they always do.
They just aquired the #9 pick in the draft from two years ago as well as a future (admittedly non-lottery) 1st Round pick.
They're going to start a 20-year-old at point guard with youngsters Derrick White and Lonnie Walker likely in the rotation soon.
When the Spurs traded for Kawhi everyone jumped off the ledge and said they had no present or future. They had both.
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