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    Trump party finest.
    Results here replicated in other states. Voters matter less than donor class, apparently.




    PORTLAND, Me. — Brandy Staples, a 39-year-old breast cancer survivor, had expected to become eligible for Medicaid coverage this month after Maine voters approved an expansion of the program last fall. Instead, she found herself in a courtroom here on Wednesday, watching the latest chapter unfold in a rancorous, drawn-out battle over whether she and thousands of other poor people in the state will get free government insurance after all.

    Ignoring the binding vote, Gov. Paul LePage has refused to expand the program, blasting it as a needless, budget-busting form of welfare. He vetoed five expansion bills before the issue made the ballot, plus a spending bill this month that provided about $60 million in funding for the first year. Earlier this month he went so far as to say he would go to jail “before I put the state in red ink” by adding at least 70,000 more low-income adults to the state’s Medicaid population of 264,000.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/h...on-lepage.html

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    Because democrats telling US that they are losing because of Russia is any better

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    Ms. Staples, the breast-cancer survivor who attended the oral arguments, works part time in food service at Bowdoin College. She pays $75 a month for subsidized private coverage through the Obamacare marketplace, plus a deductible, but is poor enough to qualify for Medicaid if it were expanded, she said. She gathered hundreds of signatures to help get Medicaid expansion on the ballot last year, then knocked on hundreds of doors to get out the vote as a member of the Maine People’s Alliance, a nonprofit organizing group. It was the first time voters anywhere got to decide the issue, and they approved it 59 percent to 41 percent.

    Maybe she should spend some of her time gathering signatures/knocking on doors to get a job that provides better healthcare...Seems to me that she knows exactly how poor she needs to remain in order to get benefits.

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    Ms. Staples, the breast-cancer survivor who attended the oral arguments, works part time in food service at Bowdoin College. She pays $75 a month for subsidized private coverage through the Obamacare marketplace, plus a deductible, but is poor enough to qualify for Medicaid if it were expanded, she said. She gathered hundreds of signatures to help get Medicaid expansion on the ballot last year, then knocked on hundreds of doors to get out the vote as a member of the Maine People’s Alliance, a nonprofit organizing group. It was the first time voters anywhere got to decide the issue, and they approved it 59 percent to 41 percent.

    Maybe she should spend some of her time gathering signatures/knocking on doors to get a job that provides better healthcare...Seems to me that she knows exactly how poor she needs to remain in order to get benefits.
    Poor people bad now.

    Good to know.

    This kind of stuff makes Cortez/Sanders' case for them. Thank you.

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    Not just NOW. Always have been always will

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    Ms. Staples, the breast-cancer survivor who attended the oral arguments, works part time in food service at Bowdoin College. She pays $75 a month for subsidized private coverage through the Obamacare marketplace, plus a deductible, but is poor enough to qualify for Medicaid if it were expanded, she said. She gathered hundreds of signatures to help get Medicaid expansion on the ballot last year, then knocked on hundreds of doors to get out the vote as a member of the Maine People’s Alliance, a nonprofit organizing group. It was the first time voters anywhere got to decide the issue, and they approved it 59 percent to 41 percent.

    Maybe she should spend some of her time gathering signatures/knocking on doors to get a job that provides better healthcare...Seems to me that she knows exactly how poor she needs to remain in order to get benefits.
    You highlighted everything but the voting totals lmao

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    Pro tip: boutons does a thing where he shrinks text so you cant read it. might wanna try that next time

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    Not just NOW. Always have been always will
    I hope you get AIDS and die.

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    Not just NOW. Always have been always will

    Kentucky Spending All Its Money Making Sure Nobody Gets Something For Free
    Doktor Zoom July 24, 2018 04:06 PM


    Kentucky was the first state in the country to get approval to impose work requirements on recipients of Medicaid, a terrible idea that Donald Trump and the current crop of GOP ninnyhammers think is the best idea since pee tests and private prisons. And while Kentucky's work requirements were blocked by a federal judge shortly after they were rolled out, a report by financial analyst Fitch Ratings found adding the work requirements increased the state's administrative costs by 40 percent. Golly, a result that everyone saw coming, what a huge surprise!

    You see, kids, you can't have a Poors Gotta Work program without making sure the poors are actually working, not to mention tracking who's required to work and who's not, who's in a job training program, who's volunteering, who's in school, and so on. Most important, you have to determine who you can throw off healthcare for not having a computer like poor people shouldn't, and how to get away with it, heh-heh-heh.

    Lead researcher Eric Kim explained that getting a whole new poor-thumpin' bureaucracy off the ground actually costs something, you see:

    In its biennial budget, Kentucky's Medicaid administration costs increased more than 40%, or $35 million, from the prior biennium to $116 million, which Fitch partially attributes to implementing Medicaid work requirements.
    This may come as a surprise to those who assumed work requirements might just cut down on the number of unworthy poors through the magic of yelling "Get a job!" while stroking the embossed cover of your personal copy of Atlas Shrugged. Instead, you have to do computers and staff and number-crunchers, all of which make limited government bigger somehow. And yes, that's even if Kentucky somehow achieves its dream of scaring away or shunting off 95,000 enrollees over five years.

    Direct costs for Medicaid work requirements could limit savings from enrollment declines. Work requirements require tracking systems that few, if any, states have. States developed systems in the 1990s to implement work requirements for welfare called the Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) but the scale of Medicaid is significantly larger now. TANF enrolled 2.4 million monthly during 2017. Medicaid enrolled 67.3 million in April 2018 alone.

    And Oopsies, even if work requirements force even more people off benefits, the savings from making them sicker won't make the costs of developing and operating those systems vanish. You can't police the poors without having systems and people in place to make sure you're only ing them over in the government-approved ways. But it's a great way to allocate tax money on things other than providing healthcare, so it's popular.

    It's not as if any of this can be much of a surprise to the people who've been pushing work requirements, the Get Tough On Poor People flavor of the moment. Most people getting Medicaid already work (or are children, or retired, or on disability), and nearly 80 percent are in a family where at least one person is working. Work requirements, like so many great ideas from small government conservatives who hate social engineering, are mostly a solution in need of a problem. Have to wonder if data systems manufacturers have been pushing for them.

    It's almost as if these ers have learned nothing from the experiments with pee-testing welfare applicants, which mostly determined that testing labs made assloads of money while the testing programs found only a handful of bad evil drug abusers to throw off welfare.

    Still, the dream of eliminating poverty by making life even harder for poor people is an attractive one, so we can hardly guess what scheme Rs will impose next. Maybe mandatory DNA testing of poors to make sure they aren't welfare lizard people come to steal our young for their reptilian overlords.
    https://www.wonkette.com/medicaid-work-requirements

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    Are you ing kidding me? ACA ed rural America but now you find a story complaining about people not getting free insurance?

    Trump would have been a savior to the left if he had only called the Subsidy a health insurance voucher for the self employed family.

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    I'm sure OP giving the bleeding heart version of the story; but the Maine governor is probably the biggest jackass in the upper echelons of Republicans, tbh.

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    Are you ing kidding me? ACA ed rural America but now you find a story complaining about people not getting free insurance?
    It was designed to over the country; its own framer admitted that. Dems are losers.

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    It was designed to over the country; its own framer admitted that. Dems are losers.
    Excellent synopsis and a biting critique as well!

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    Excellent synopsis and a biting critique as well!

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    ACA ed rural America
    what?

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    tell em about the repugs bouton and how they sabotaged aca. go in on "Trash" too if at all possible

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    Are you ing kidding me? ACA ed rural America but now you find a story complaining about people not getting free insurance?

    Trump would have been a savior to the left if he had only called the Subsidy a health insurance voucher for the self employed family.
    The tax cuts for the hyper-wealthy cost 2.5 times more than the ACA did.

    The amount of extra money we are borrowing to fund them could pay for free college, and free medical care for quite a few people.

    Republicans, having tossed out their fig leaf when it comes to being "fiscal conservatives", are giving us the choice on what we are going to borrow money for.

    1) Giving more money to the hyper-wealthy
    2) Investing in people and infrastructure

    Ask any economist which gives a better return to the economy.

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    Are you ing kidding me? ACA ed rural America but now you find a story complaining about people not getting free insurance?

    Trump would have been a savior to the left if he had only called the Subsidy a health insurance voucher for the self employed family.
    What has ed rural America when it comes to health care is the closing of rural hospitals, which are all money losers.

    Seems like the only solution to that is to subsidize it.

    Pick a free market solution for that. I'll wait.

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    I hope you get AIDS and die.
    Sorry, only poor people with no insurance die from AIDS nowadays.

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    I hope you get AIDS and die.
    Sorry, only poor people with no insurance die from AIDS nowadays.

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    Sorry, only poor people with no insurance die from AIDS nowadays.
    More like only people who don't take their meds die from AIDS nowadays. Don't even need insurance.

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    More like only people who don't take their meds die from AIDS nowadays. Don't even need insurance.
    Maybe you can tell me what justification you would give as governor for ignoring something that was passed by a rather large margin of your voters.

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    Maybe you can tell me what justification you would give as governor for ignoring something that was passed by a rather large margin of your voters.
    I'd just tell them "I'm Governor Snakeboy es and I'm doing it for the lulz"

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    I'd just tell them "I'm Governor Snakeboy es and I'm doing it for the lulz"
    Accepting that you’re a vacuous memelord is the first step.

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    I'd just tell them "I'm Governor Snakeboy es and I'm doing it for the lulz"
    The tone at the top is important. I see you got the memo.

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