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    Can you imagine what we get in return if kawhi had high value?
    Probably young rook like simmons.
    Probably Tatum.

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    Pop is the GM and RC is his secretary. Ainge and Kerr would run circles around them.
    Ujiri did run circles around them.

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    RC is probably top 3 realistically speaking

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    Ainge and Kerr would run circles around them.
    that's like giving credit to whoever the is the Laker's GM right now for landing LeBron. They're in a big market working for a franchise everyone wants to go to inherently.

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    If RC had the budget that magic has with the Lakers or if the Spurs had money like Dallas or Houston. Don't forget we lost lot's of good players over the years because we could not pay them. Scola is the first name that comes to mind. RC does an amazing job with the resources he has. And to be honest, DDR is not better than Kawhi but he is a better fit with the team we have. Dude can ISO and pass the ball. Kawhi can ISO but does not pass the ball at all.

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    Yes, I understand but you have to give RC credit. Kawhi could not shoot for when he got drafted.
    Exactly. People forget Kawhi was no one. He was made who he is inside the Spurs's system, or Pop's dimension or whatever you want to call it.

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    for a small market team in a city that is not going to attract too many free agents looking for a more dynamic and cosmopolitan area, RC has done quite well. a lot of RC haters here will just defer to the TP picks as luck but it was buford who sold pop on tony. and then there are the free agent signings , trades and picks over the years that helped put together the perfect compliments to TD: elie, kerr, purdue, bowen, horry, splitter, the nazr mohammed trade, berry, marco, splitter, george hill and the eventual trade of hill for leonard. time will tell regarding murray, white and walker but for any ST poster to act as if the spurs, with a poor owner (in comparison to some of the billionaires that are out there) not too keen on paying the threshold taxes, have a terrible GM and front office seems completely uninformed to me. imho, the spurs have maximized their return on timmy and are at least trying to pave a road for success in the near future without having to go the path of the lottery.

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    for a small market team in a city that is not going to attract too many free agents looking for a more dynamic and cosmopolitan area, RC has done quite well. a lot of RC haters here will just defer to the TP picks as luck but it was buford who sold pop on tony. and then there are the free agent signings , trades and picks over the years that helped put together the perfect compliments to TD: elie, kerr, purdue, bowen, horry, splitter, the nazr mohammed trade, berry, marco, splitter, george hill and the eventual trade of hill for leonard. time will tell regarding murray, white and walker but for any ST poster to act as if the spurs, with a poor owner (in comparison to some of the billionaires that are out there) not too keen on paying the threshold taxes, have a terrible GM and front office seems completely uninformed to me. imho, the spurs have maximized their return on timmy and are at least trying to pave a road for success in the near future without having to go the path of the lottery.
    Stopped reading after you said Buford was behind the TP pick. Do your ing research. Jesus Christ. That was Sam Presti, and Presti only.

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    How there are still some people here slurping this goofy looking mother er off is beyond me.

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    Stopped reading after you said Buford was behind the TP pick. Do your ing research. Jesus Christ. That was Sam Presti, and Presti only.
    apparently you can't read either:

    it was buford who sold pop on tony
    does not equal
    you said Buford was behind the TP pick.
    it was R.C. who convinced popovich to give parker another workout.

    Do your ing research.

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    I applaud you guys for your loyalty.

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    for a small market team in a city that is not going to attract too many free agents looking for a more dynamic and cosmopolitan area, RC has done quite well. a lot of RC haters here will just defer to the TP picks as luck but it was buford who sold pop on tony. and then there are the free agent signings , trades and picks over the years that helped put together the perfect compliments to TD: elie, kerr, purdue, bowen, horry, splitter, the nazr mohammed trade, berry, marco, splitter, george hill and the eventual trade of hill for leonard. time will tell regarding murray, white and walker but for any ST poster to act as if the spurs, with a poor owner (in comparison to some of the billionaires that are out there) not too keen on paying the threshold taxes, have a terrible GM and front office seems completely uninformed to me. imho, the spurs have maximized their return on timmy and are at least trying to pave a road for success in the near future without having to go the path of the lottery.
    Preach

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    apparently you can't read either:



    does not equal

    it was R.C. who convinced popovich to give parker another workout.

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    How there are still some people here slurping this goofy looking mother er off is beyond me.
    He is nothing more than Sir Pop's squire. But the redundancy of their recent picks/signings/dealings to create a roster of "positionless" 6'5" tweeners speaks volumes about PATFO's prowess.

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    How there are still some people here slurping this goofy looking mother er off is beyond me.
    Really?? Name another GM that draft in the late 20's most of the time that has more success than RC?

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    for a small market team in a city that is not going to attract too many free agents looking for a more dynamic and cosmopolitan area, RC has done quite well. a lot of RC haters here will just defer to the TP picks as luck but it was buford who sold pop on tony. and then there are the free agent signings , trades and picks over the years that helped put together the perfect compliments to TD: elie, kerr, purdue, bowen, horry, splitter, the nazr mohammed trade, berry, marco, splitter, george hill and the eventual trade of hill for leonard. time will tell regarding murray, white and walker but for any ST poster to act as if the spurs, with a poor owner (in comparison to some of the billionaires that are out there) not too keen on paying the threshold taxes, have a terrible GM and front office seems completely uninformed to me. imho, the spurs have maximized their return on timmy and are at least trying to pave a road for success in the near future without having to go the path of the lottery.
    Pave the road for success in the near future? Pop and Friends just traded away the franchise for a salary dumped Demar DeRozen and if that wasn't bad enough, they threw in Danny Green +5M absolutely free. RC just sold the future for a three year rental and received no assets or building blocks for the future in return. What future? You think it was hard bringing in free agents to play for the Spurs when they're a 60 win team (though not due to location but woeful salary cap management), how hard do you think it will be for the Spurs to attract Free Agents when they're a 30 win team? The Spurs have a three year windo to win and salvage something before the 7-10 year misery begins.
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    Pave the road for success in the near future? Pop and Friends just traded away the franchise for a salary dumped Demar DeRozen and if that wasn't bad enough, they threw in Danny Green +5M absolutely free. RC just sold the future for a three year rental and received no assets or building blocks for the future in return. What future? You think it was hard bringing in free agents to play for the Spurs when they're a 60 win team (though not due to location but woeful salary cap management), how hard do you think it will be for the Spurs to attract Free Agents when they're a 30 win team? The Spurs have a three year windo to win and salvage something before the 7-10 year misery begins.
    Not a defense of PATFO, however, I do take issue with your narrative. Poodle is a piece for the future. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he shows me otherwise with his play this season. Also, this team is much better than a 30-win team - much closer to 50. The current roster is potentially much better than the one that actually played last season.

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    Exactly. People forget Kawhi was no one. He was made who he is inside the Spurs's system, or Pop's dimension or whatever you want to call it.
    Tbh, it was a perfect marriage of prospect and system. Everybody who ever spent time around Number 2 stated he was the hardest-working, most determined gym rat they ever saw. His willingness to work that hard within that system created a unique synergy that resulted in a superstar on the court. 'Tis a pity the system didn't synergize with his psyche to achieve analogous results in character.
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    Not a defense of PATFO, however, I do take issue with your narrative. Poodle is a piece for the future. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he shows me otherwise with his play this season. Also, this team is much better than a 30-win team - much closer to 50. The current roster is potentially much better than the one that actually played last season.
    Reread my post. In three years when DeRozen leaves, They'll be stuck with a 35 year old LMA and no players to build around unless you suscribe to theory that believes Lonnie Walker and DJ will become future stars that other stars will want to play alongside. This will be a 30 win team.

    About Poodle, this isn't the 1990's. There's a reason teams are shifting away from the traditional center and going with a stretch 5 or 4/5 hybrid. He has no range, isn't super athletic, doesn't spread the floor and doesn't rebound particularly well. He'll be virtually unplayable against teams like the Warriors.

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    All I wish we could have gotten was a young SF. But whatever, it wasn't possible.

    We're in for years of Ira Newble and Chucky Brown once again.
    Sure it was possible on draft night. The spurs should have gone hard at Phil for that number 10 pick.

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    Reread my post. In three years when DeRozen leaves, They'll be stuck with a 35 year old LMA and no players to build around unless you suscribe to theory that believes Lonnie Walker and DJ will become future stars that others stars will want to play alongside. This will be a 30 win team.

    About Poodle, this isn't the 1990's. There's a reason teams are shifting away from the traditional center and going with a stretch 5 or 4/5 hybrid. He has no range, isn't super athletic, doesn't spread the floor and doesn't rebound particularly well. He'll be virtually unplayable against teams like the Warriors.
    Three years from now let's talk. Three years ago, nobody was projecting Number 2's departure. They are currently a better looking team on paper than the team that actually played last season. They are set for a certain level of success. I don't think they are set to compete for a chip, but they will compete at a level that most franchises aspire to. I wish we had never signed LMA, and I am holding my breath on Poodle. Nonetheless, this team is set up to compete at a certain level. Btw, 75-80% of the league are not effectively playable against the GS All-Stars.

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    for a small market team in a city that is not going to attract too many free agents looking for a more dynamic and cosmopolitan area, RC has done quite well. a lot of RC haters here will just defer to the TP picks as luck but it was buford who sold pop on tony. and then there are the free agent signings , trades and picks over the years that helped put together the perfect compliments to TD: elie, kerr, purdue, bowen, horry, splitter, the nazr mohammed trade, berry, marco, splitter, george hill and the eventual trade of hill for leonard. time will tell regarding murray, white and walker but for any ST poster to act as if the spurs, with a poor owner (in comparison to some of the billionaires that are out there) not too keen on paying the threshold taxes, have a terrible GM and front office seems completely uninformed to me. imho, the spurs have maximized their return on timmy and are at least trying to pave a road for success in the near future without having to go the path of the lottery.
    When you get Duncan you don't need to be all that great of a gm. We will see how great RC is moving forward in the next years.

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    Reread my post. In three years when DeRozen leaves, They'll be stuck with a 35 year old LMA and no players to build around unless you suscribe to theory that believes Lonnie Walker and DJ will become future stars that other stars will want to play alongside. This will be a 30 win team.

    About Poodle, this isn't the 1990's. There's a reason teams are shifting away from the traditional center and going with a stretch 5 or 4/5 hybrid. He has no range, isn't super athletic, doesn't spread the floor and doesn't rebound particularly well. He'll be virtually unplayable against teams like the Warriors.
    The Spurs will have some new players on the team in three years. A lot can and will change.

    I do believe Spur fans are delusional in thinking that PATFO are so great that the Spurs won't be headed for some really down years.

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    The Spurs will have some new players on the team in three years. A lot can and will change.
    Exactly. I have no idea who among the current players will be here in three years. Might be an interesting, speculative thread to start...

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    When you get Duncan you don't need to be all that great of a gm. We will see how great RC is moving forward in the next years.
    Indeed. Just in the last two years I think we've learned a lot. He likes to hand out candy ass contracts to sub par role players while destroying future cap space and since the Kawhi trade, We've learned he cracks under pressure.

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