Spurs 2018 offseason thread

[cutewizard]

Rodman and Chicago's defense / size / athleticism would give them the advantage against gsw in any era, warriors would need to shoot much better than they shot against Houston for example. Kawhi made gsw team in trouble on its own, MJ would probably be throwing 12 ft in each game against that team, a line with harper, mj, pippen and rodman, would be too much for any current team imo, pick and roll would be useless against this lineup, it would be basically Durant in iso all time

This makes a good point.

[cutewizard]

Who are the long defenders that are similar to Pippen and Jordan that Klay/Curry have routinely shown that they can get their shots off against? Spurs with Kawhi/Green were the only team that had the closest set up to the old bulls when it came to perimeter defense. I can't think of a team currently in the league that has a few good perimeter defenders on them. in last year's playoffs the only great perimeter defenders that they faced was Danny Green,Ariza, and both of those guys play on separate teams.

Again when it comes to being stretched I don't put Iguodola up there as a guy whose going to consistently stretch the D. Only Curry/Klay/Durant can consistently stretch the D since they are all great 3 point shooters. It's like I said before I don't think those 3 would shoot consistently great against the bulls. Look at the Rox series where Durant had 3 straight ty shooting games and Curry also had some bad games. You can say I'm a hater but I believe Durant is a soft mentally and would choke under pressure against the Bulls much like he did against the Rockets. The only difference would be that Jordan would make sure the bulls close them out in game 6 in Oracle unlike Harden.

Also saying Rodman is overrated simply because he got schooled by Barkley is silly. Barkley is no scrub and great players can still school the greatest defenders. Case point is Bruce Bowen getting torched by Bonzi Wells during the '06 playoffs. Granted Bonzi is not a superstar but you see what I'm saying. Also why would the bulls have Rodman guard Durant when they could have Pippen do it? You first said Green could handle Rodman and now you moved the goal post by saying it doesn't matter that Rodman could shut down Green.

I don't buy into this 3>2 bs. Basketball is basketball you play to your strengths and not the other team's strengths. Warriors would give the bulls problems with their 3 point shooting but bulls would also give them problems with their post game in Pippen/MJ. The Spurs had the right idea in '17 when it came to Kawhi/LMA's post ups against the Warriors. Warriors had no way of defending it. It was pretty effective up until Zaza derailed the strategy. You have to factor in how the refs calling touch fouls today would also favor MJ/Pippen since both of them would be getting a lot of freethrows.

On a side note it's kind of depressing making references to the old Kawhi Spur teams in this argument just goes to show that re and his uncle cost the Spurs a chance at winning another le.

Agree.

[BSfromTX]

Step out of the two party paradigm and quit falling for all the bull . Fascism, socialism, communism, etc, it’s all “collectivism”. As opposed to individualism, which this country tried desperately to preserve in its beginning. Both sides of the isle are dutifully leading us further and further away from individualism and our cons ution.

They have y’all arguing over minutia. No need to look at illegals, welfare, business men, it’s the international banking cabal that is raping us and almost every other country. It’s essentially predatory lending and money creation that has bankrupt our country along with all the politicians that sold us out... and trump is no different than the previous presidents. He says a few politically incorrect statements and everyone thinks he is antiestablishment. The media (bought and payed for) will never ask any exposing questions, just the ones meant to fan the flames that support the two party system

seriously, we are all on the same team once you begin to see the bigger picture

[Seventyniner]

Pops!!!!

Sam Amico @AmicoHoops

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I hope his first move is to fire whoever came up with that god awful team name.

[8FOR!3]

Pops Mensah-Bonsu's real name is Nana Papa Yaw Dwene Mensah-Bonsu holy crap lol

[BatManu20]

When did Captain Jack become such an annoying got tbh? Dude’s done nothing but piss & moan since the Spurs axed him.

[RD2191]

When did Captain Jack become such an annoying got tbh? Dude’s done nothing but piss & moan since the Spurs axed him.

SJax really needs to let it go.

[daslicer]

When did Captain Jack become such an annoying got tbh? Dude’s done nothing but piss & moan since the Spurs axed him.

He's going to hate the Spurs until the day he dies. It's very unfortunate this dumb r has been given a media platform to spew all of his hate for the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

He's going to hate the Spurs until the day he dies. It's very unfortunate this dumb r has been given a media platform to spew all of his hate for the Spurs.

If there is anyone dumb here its you. Keep it up and you will be banned.

[daslicer]

If there is anyone dumb here its you. Keep it up and you will be banned.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. If you don't like what I say just put me on ignore. I'll say it again Stephen Jackson is a dumb r.

[RD2191]

If there is anyone dumb here its you. Keep it up and you will be banned.

Crofl. Ban deez nuts.

[DJR210]

When did Captain Jack become such an annoying got tbh? Dude’s done nothing but piss & moan since the Spurs axed him.

I used to be a huge fan of Stephen Jackson.. Dude is one bitter little . He really in his mind believes he was HOF caliber talent that was wronged in 2012. He takes every chance to slug up the Spurs (except Tim he knows better)

[Leetonidas]

Stephen Jackson is a clown. Dude was garbage when he came back. Yeah he hit six threes against okc but did he forget he completely disappeared in the second half? this dumb mofo. 2003 was a long time ago Jack no one gives a about you anymore

[cd98]

Jackson is all over the place. The Spurs are a classy organization and Pop is the best to they mishandled Kawhi and Rudy is going to feel different once he gets yanked for shooting a bad shot and the Spurs are really just good at hiding that they aren't one of the best organizations. One minute Jackson thinks he's better than Manu, the next, Manu is the best teammate ever. This guy's opinions are contradictory and make no sense, and it's obvious they are there to mask a resentment he has towards the Spurs.

Forgotten in his rant is that he took less money to leave the Spurs last time (Spurs made him an offer, he rejected it, and the only money he could find was less than what the Spurs offered...in other words, no market for him). Notice he was never on a le contender once he left the Spurs? And notice that when he came back, he immediately thought that he was better than Manu because he made a few uncontested threes in one game. Skill and talent alone, he's not worthy of being in the same sentence as Manu. But even though the Spurs would choose Manu over him 100x on skill alone, Manu is also also not crazy like Jackson, i.e. he didn't jump into stands to fight fans or get arrested or have off court issues or smoke pot right before games. Manu never had a problem with a teammate other than Jackson...and Jackson still said that he was one of the best teammates.

I don't really care about Jackson, I'm just surprised someone sticks a microphone in front of his face and thinks he has any legitimacy.

[daslicer]

Jackson is all over the place. The Spurs are a classy organization and Pop is the best to they mishandled Kawhi and Rudy is going to feel different once he gets yanked for shooting a bad shot and the Spurs are really just good at hiding that they aren't one of the best organizations. One minute Jackson thinks he's better than Manu, the next, Manu is the best teammate ever. This guy's opinions are contradictory and make no sense, and it's obvious they are there to mask a resentment he has towards the Spurs.

Forgotten in his rant is that he took less money to leave the Spurs last time (Spurs made him an offer, he rejected it, and the only money he could find was less than what the Spurs offered...in other words, no market for him). Notice he was never on a le contender once he left the Spurs? And notice that when he came back, he immediately thought that he was better than Manu because he made a few uncontested threes in one game. Skill and talent alone, he's not worthy of being in the same sentence as Manu. But even though the Spurs would choose Manu over him 100x on skill alone, Manu is also also not crazy like Jackson, i.e. he didn't jump into stands to fight fans or get arrested or have off court issues or smoke pot right before games. Manu never had a problem with a teammate other than Jackson...and Jackson still said that he was one of the best teammates.

I don't really care about Jackson, I'm just surprised someone sticks a microphone in front of his face and thinks he has any legitimacy.

It's not even about legitimacy when it comes to him. He's a shock jock which is what ESPN and Fox Sports are looking for on these shows.

[cd98]

And what's wrong with a player wanting to leave if a team can trade him on a dime? Because the team has a contractual right to do so and the player does not have a contractual right. That's the deal if you want guaranteed contracts, unlike the NFL. You are expected to honor your word, especially with 18 million attached to your signature.

Trades were always a part of the game. Lebron didn't change the rules except that he did one year contracts and was a free agent. If Kawhi wanted to leave, do it as a free agent. Sign one year deals like Lebron. Whining to get out of a city isn't new, but Kawhi took it to a new level and deserves the public opinion that squarely went against him and in favor of the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. If you don't like what I say just put me on ignore. I'll say it again Stephen Jackson is a dumb r.

Damn you are super edgy and cool. You will be on more than ignore and it will ruin your life Since you obviously love posting edgy stuff on the internet. Taking that away from you will probably ruin your life.

*In before the “ban me I don’t care” even though you continue to post here

[daslicer]

And what's wrong with a player wanting to leave if a team can trade him on a dime? Because the team has a contractual right to do so and the player does not have a contractual right. That's the deal if you want guaranteed contracts, unlike the NFL. You are expected to honor your word, especially with 18 million attached to your signature.

Trades were always a part of the game. Lebron didn't change the rules except that he did one year contracts and was a free agent. If Kawhi wanted to leave, do it as a free agent. Sign one year deals like Lebron. Whining to get out of a city isn't new, but Kawhi took it to a new level and deserves the public opinion that squarely went against him and in favor of the Spurs.

Agreed. I have never had any problems with players leaving their teams through FA. That is their right but like you said when you sign a contract I expect you to play until the contract expires.

[daslicer]

Damn you are super edgy and cool. You will be on more than ignore and it will ruin your life Since you obviously love posting edgy stuff on the internet. Taking that away from you will probably ruin your life.

*In before the “ban me I don’t care” even though you continue to post here

Wow I'm just surprised by your epic meltdown.

[DPG21920]

Wow I'm just surprised by your epic meltdown.

*Racist on the internet
*Uses super internet catchphrase like “epic meltdown”

I am 100% certain I would hate you in real life.

[daslicer]

*Racist on the internet
*Uses super internet catchphrase like “epic meltdown”

I am 100% certain I would hate you in real life.

TBH I'm equal opportunity when it comes to the word r. I believe that word applies to all races of people. If you saw me in real life you would probably like me and never suspect me of using that word. I know it would shock you but I'm actually anti-Trump.

[DPG21920]

TBH I'm equal opportunity when it comes to the word r. I believe that word applies to all races of people. If you saw me in real life you would probably like me and never suspect me of using that word. I know it would shock you but I'm actually anti-Trump.

So why would you use it online then? I mean, just because other people are idiots doesn’t mean you have to be. I really won’t ever understand it especially in todays climate.

[monkeypunk]

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. If you don't like what I say just put me on ignore. I'll say it again Stephen Jackson is a dumb r.

I know lots of posters here flirt with variations of the n-word but this ain't cool at all. You need to get your ass banned.

[YGWHI]

I know lots of posters here flirt with variations of the n-word but this ain't cool at all.

This needs a context. People was talking about a black player, then used that word.

Don't wanna become this into some racial thing but couldn't agree more with you, using some words against black people isn't cool and it should change here.

[BillMc]

SJax really needs to let it go.

Yeah, I thought long-term pot use made you mellow?

He's more like a washed-up coke head.