RIP Spurs defense

[T Park]

We will fail to be a top ten defensive team and barely be a top 15 offensive team

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[YGWHI]

I’m excited to root for a team with a chip on its shoulder again. The cancer is gone. Go Spurs Go!

Stop hating on TP, he's the best PG in Spurs' history.


Have fun. Blue font and all

[YGWHI]

Most of the current fan base has never experienced a rebuild of the team. You will have to take your enjoyment where and when you get it. Think of the fun or anticipation of the developing potential of the newbies and don't get down on them if they don't meet your expectations. +We've enjoyed the absolute record of excellence for 20 years. Nobody will ever approach our string of 50+I wins.

So we are about to experience what the rest of the league has had to endure on a regular basis.

Not really. This is not a rebuilding-team. It would be that type of team if PATFO would have traded Kawhi for Boston's picks or Philly role players & picks combo but they opted to stay compe ive and made a deal for other All Star like DeRozan.

The Spurs are still an elite team with plenty of vets, not a rebuilding team that depends on the development of its whole young roster.

[lmbebo]

no reason to hate on TP. Guy played his butt off for the spurs for 17 years. He's lost 2-3 steps, age, injury, etc. But he was always spurs. Same can't be said for jack ass who pulled a medical hold out.

[YGWHI]

no reason to hate on TP. Guy played his butt off for the spurs for 17 years. He's lost 2-3 steps, age, injury, etc. But he was always spurs. Same can't be said for jack ass who pulled a medical hold out.

You can bet he wasn't exactly hating on TP...And for me, I just made a joke because there are still too much "sensitive" Spurs' fans that can't move on.

Parker is a Spurs' legend, no one doubts it.

[TD 21]

Team needs to get Quincy Acy now to be another defensive minded 3/4 who can shoot the 3.

Acy is strictly a PF and is similar to Cunningham.

Think it's best they leave the final roster spot open for flexibility purposes. There's no external veteran who'd play over the internal ones and whatever leftover minutes exist on the wing, I'd rather go to Walker over some minimal retread anyway.

I don't have the stats, but based on the games I've been watching, I'd say DeRozan used to play against starters while Lowry+bench played against second units. East Conference second units. Maybe that explains the numbers. Watching games you can see DDR taking the load on offense and relaxing on defense. Being the Spurs a much more collective basketball team in both ends of the court, and playing next to Aldridge, I believe DeRozan's focus will balance better. He's been kicked from home after his best offensive season, traded for defensive players. That should mean something for him too I guess. Moreover, most of the players arriving in San Antonio improve defensively.


I want to think Bertans can play the SF and progress defensively. However, is true that the team doesn't have a player that can match with that kind of players, I highlighted that in the "SF" post, here. I'm sure PATFO is conscious of this weakness and could try something around February.

Anyway, up here in my optimistic post, I'm also admitting we can't compete against the better teams of the league and that's one of the reasons. Unfortunately, we are some more upgrades away from real contention so I won't say fixing one specific detail here or there would make our team fight for the Championship. Under my point of view, this is a transitional season for the team to find a new type of play, new players to adapt and youngsters to progress. Those are the tasks for the team and I'd say the franchise will be ok with that as long as they win around 45-50 and make the playoffs. The team is still good enough and capable of hitting the targets. Leonard's drama finally finished, I'm really excited about the 2018/19 season.

There's some truth to that, but last season, their most successful yet, they mostly sat Lowry and DeRozan simultaneously, yet their league best 2nd unit was still their best lineup.

DeRozan is definitely more of an alpha scorer than Lowry (whose range shooting makes him more effective off ball), but the former isn't as good as he thinks he is.

Spurs morphed from a "collective team" to a more traditional one the instant the Leonard-Aldridge era commenced. Even though the bench will probably be their best lineup, this won't be any different, in terms of two high minute/usage, alpha scorers.

Leonard is a far more efficient scorer than DeRozan.

Bertans won't play SF, but he's going to have to guard some big wings/combo forwards. Against teams flush with those types, starting Gasol won't be feasible. They'll need his combination of size, shooting and mobility to matchup.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

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Welcome back old friend

[wildbill2u]

Not really. This is not a rebuilding-team. It would be that type of team if PATFO would have traded Kawhi for Boston's picks or Philly role players & picks combo but they opted to stay compe ive and made a deal for other All Star like DeRozan.

The Spurs are still an elite team with plenty of vets, not a rebuilding team that depends on the development of its whole young roster.

You make some interesting points, but we differ on what is considered a rebuild I think. For the first time in a long time the Spurs may have to either be lucky or bring this team together in a hurry in order to make the playoffs or win 50 games. Las Vegas line has the over/under of wins at 43.5. Those guys are pretty good at what they do.

On the other hand, if Murray and Walker really blossom in a hurry, then we might do a tad better and make the playoffs--but I didn't notice the West getting any easier. FYI I'm putting some money down on a bet on the over, but just enough to keep me excited about the season.

[cutewizard]

As for rhe mad person that I am, I still ghink the Spurs can win the NBA le......

[DMC]

stopped reading at Kyle Anderson

Tired schtick tbh

[ElNono]

Tired schtick tbh

mine or hers?

[DMC]

mine or hers?

Hers

[YGWHI]

You make some interesting points, but we differ on what is considered a rebuild I think. For the first time in a long time the Spurs may have to either be lucky or bring this team together in a hurry in order to make the playoffs or win 50 games. Las Vegas line has the over/under of wins at 43.5. Those guys are pretty good at what they do.

On the other hand, if Murray and Walker really blossom in a hurry, then we might do a tad better and make the playoffs--but I didn't notice the West getting any easier. FYI I'm putting some money down on a bet on the over, but just enough to keep me excited about the season.

Well, I wouldn't care about Las Vegas odds...Those guys and National sport media are betting against the Spurs since the run&gun-Suns' days.

[ElNono]

Hers

with some sort of luck, he'll be out of the league when his deal is up.

[cutewizard]

[Fusternino]

Acy is strictly a PF and is similar to Cunningham.

Think it's best they leave the final roster spot open for flexibility purposes. There's no external veteran who'd play over the internal ones and whatever leftover minutes exist on the wing, I'd rather go to Walker over some minimal retread anyway.

What? Both Acy and Cunningham are both 3/4. Acy is also a lot younger and longer than Cunningham. More upside even though their games are pretty similar right now. Nothing wrong with a little redundancy.

[HarlemHeat37]

23rd ranked defense, right now..ew..

[NASpurs]

23rd ranked defense, right now..ew..

So there’s seven other teams with tier defense? Hard to imagine.

[HarlemHeat37]

So there’s seven other teams with tier defense? Hard to imagine.

OTOH, when you consider that the rotation includes DeRozan, Forbes, Mills, Belinelli and Bertans, 23rd isn't that bad

[HarlemHeat37]

Memphis went from 26th to 6th on defense since adding Kyle Anderson..some will attribute their improvement to Gasol being healthy, adding Jaren Jackson Jr. and not tanking, but I call those s "haters"..

[SpurPadre]

Memphis went from 26th to 6th on defense since adding Kyle Anderson..some will attribute their improvement to Gasol being healthy, adding Jaren Jackson Jr. and not tanking, but I call those s "haters"..

Isn't it possible that people are Kyle "haters" while others simply overrate him?

[NASpurs]

23rd ranked defense, right now..ew..

Where are you getting 23rd from anyway? NBA.com/advanced stats has the Spurs 24th in defensive rating.

This dude says the Spurs are 26th:

For some reason, 26th is more believable to me even though it's not that far off from 23rd/24th.

[HarlemHeat37]

Where are you getting 23rd from anyway? NBA.com/advanced stats has the Spurs 24th in defensive rating.

This dude says the Spurs are 26th:

For some reason, 26th is more believable to me even though it's not that far off from 23rd/24th.

Checked my model this morning, data is scraped from b-ball reference..

[SAGirl]

[SAGirl]

Where are you getting 23rd from anyway? NBA.com/advanced stats has the Spurs 24th in defensive rating.

This dude says the Spurs are 26th:

For some reason, 26th is more believable to me even though it's not that far off from 23rd/24th.

OTOH, Eleventh pick here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!