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At least Manure showed up in game 7 tbh.Was Ginose hurt that series as well?
It’s funny how Porker apologists always claim he was hurt when he didn’t play well. Very credible.
At least Manure showed up in game 7 tbh.Was Ginose hurt that series as well?
although duncan was probably our most complete player from 2007-2014, parker was arguably our best player from that span.
I don't know... the 2007-2008 season was one of Manu's best... Tony took the reigns afterward.
Parker was a straight beast. Finished in the paint better than Kyrie Irving does now. He was just overpaid the last three years though. I'll never forget his game, but it was his time to go. Not the greatest teammate but a top 100 all time player no doubt. The Big 3 will live on forever.
You gave a fair assessment of Parker. I feel Parker was one of the first of a new generation PG's who are actually undersized SG's playing out of position. If Parker came out today the perception of him would be a lot different since they are only a few true PG's in this league which are Rubio,CP3,Rondo.
This has Pinoy Maurader written all over it tbh
Manu was bad, tbh, but also goes to show the Spurs with a great Manu and a mediocre Parker can win a ring, but not the other way around...Was Ginose hurt that series as well?
These are the things we know...
The Parker haters on this board are both the stupidest and loudest. Just put them on ignore.
it looked like tony went rogue to end regulation in game 6 of the 2013 nba finals.
manu was supposed to set a screen for tony and tony was supposed to advance the ball to timmy for wide open 3, a la against phoenix.
it even looks like pop motions to tim to get to his spot quicker so he could be in tony's view. tim was on cue but tony had no intention of passing the ball.
Better to keep it than give it to the other team like certain others would have....
I love Tony Parker, tbh, and what he's done for the franchise. He's the 5th best Spurs ever, I think that's enough credit, IMO... I don't know where people get that he doesn't get enough credit...
Parker was a great player who really was a big part of the Spurs success. He was very durable considering the punishment he took driving to the basket. He played well in the playoffs against supposedly better PG’s like Steve Nash and Chris Paul.
He could drive to the basket and break down the defense with the best of them. And he had an incredible repertoire of finishes closes to the basket. His midrange jumper improved after being a liability earlier in his career. His defense was good during his prime years. It’s true he didn’t have great playmaking and court vision, but the Spurs offense didn’t work that way anyway. Another plus for Parker was his elite ball handling, a natural PG bringing the ball up the court.
I hate to compare Parker and Ginobili. But I would say, Parker was more durable and a workhouse, while Ginobili was like a high strung race horse that could dominate or flame out. Ginobili had a higher ceiling when in “God Mode”. But Parker could also dominate a game, and was a more reliable player night in and out. Ginobili had a knack for making big defensive plays at crucial moments of many games. They both hit many game winning shots, but I think Ginobili was more of a 4th quarter player.
The biggest think some young fans might not know is that Parker had phenomenal speed when he came into the league. He was almost always the fastest player on the court. That does something to the game that is always a good thing.
hate him from day1 especially during that lakers 3peat till 03/04, then the following years especially in the playoffs...wheres the spurs go 2-0 up then to lose the series cause the other team adjusted by putting bigger defender on him and he disappears....
this pos and turnboli wasted duncans prime yeas with the stupid decision making...especially on last play possessions to win the game...
6/23 that game. Great, he hit a few shots at the end.
4/12 in game 7 too. He rolled over and handed that LOB to LABron.
From a value contribution Standpoint, Tony is the second best spur of all time.
Ofcourse there is such thing as Heart, fighting spirit etc. From that point maybe Manu is second best.
tony was great when he was great. his FG% in the paint was very impressive when it was among the best in the league. legit top three mvp candidate one season.
people bring up his improved jumper but it's not like it even lasted from that point on.
he definitely achieved more than anyone but possibly himself thought that he could.
didn't wanna bring manu up since this is a tony thread but tony fans do a disservice comparing him to manu. even if you think tony's peak was better (it wasn't), manu played defense and late in 4th quarters with games on the line.
he held his own against cp3, nash... but give me cp3/manu/td over tony/griffin/deandre and nash/manu/td over tony/marion/stoudemire any day of the week.
Just curious, who are the other 4 on your list?
Duncan
Kawhi
Robinson
Parker
everyone else
Duncan
DRob
Manu
Gervin
Basically the only 4 Hall of Fame worthy Spurs, tbh...
Damn, you rate Speedy Claxton above Manu and D-Rob? Crazy.
One lost play that people don't give credit for was the defense he played on Richard Hamilton in game 5 on the finals. That last play, Bowen was on Billups and the Coach Brown went with Hamilton one on one with Parker. Hamilton is 6ft7 or something. That same game at the end of the regulation, Duncan's contest on Billups also is underappreciated. Parker is great. I'll miss him. I am getting old.
Don't wonder after that why people think TP does't give enough credit here.
He's not only a surefire HOF but probably first ballot. Something every pundit, analyst, other team fan have aknoledged for years now, as big 3 was regularly referenced as "3 fututre Hofers".
Don't ask either people to give any credit to your takes after that. It is what it is.
Maybe just trolling, I don't know.
He and Manu are kind of equal in total team impact from my perspective. It's like arguing which Twix bar is better.
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