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    Christian McCaffrey is a white running back as was ie Post, Paul Hornung while Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, Denzel Washington are black actors. You might want to re-think that.

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    Relax my friend, you're trying way too hard.

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    Why does Santa Claus have to be white in 2020? Why does James Patterson's Alex Cross have to be black in 2020? Why does Sax Rohmers Fu Manchu have to be Asian in 2020? Why does Doc Savage have to white in 2020?
    You didn't answer the question, Avante.

    Why does Bond have to be white in 2020?

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    Why?

    What is the reasoning in taking well know/famous literary characters and doing whatever ya want with them? , a black Sherlock Holmes? An Asian Tarzan? A white Fu Manchu?

    You want to make things as close to the books as ya can.
    at least they nailed jack reacher

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    You didn't answer the question, Avante.

    Why does Bond have to be white in 2020?
    What difference does the year make? Isn't James Bond a white Brit?

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    What difference does the year make? Isn't James Bond a white Brit?
    He's a Brit. There's nothing in the movies these days requiring him to be white.

    M was a woman for ten years.

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    at least they nailed jack reacher
    There isn't one of the Reacher Novels where the fact he's 6-5 250 isn't mentioned. That is Tom Cruise?

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    He's a Brit. There's nothing in the movies these days requiring him to be white.

    M was a woman for ten years.
    You didn't answer my question, is James Bond a white Brit or not? I didn't say anything about the movies?

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    You didn't answer my question, is James Bond a white Brit or not? I didn't say anything about the movies?
    We've been talking about movies the entire time, Avante.

    That's what the thread is about.

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    We've been talking about movies the entire time, Avante.

    That's what the thread is about.
    I know and the movie is about a literary character. In the books which without them there would be no James Bond. wasn't he a white Brit? Yes he was.


    So give me one good reason why we need to go away from who James Bond actually is to something he isn't, well?

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    I know and the movie is about a literary character. In the books which without them there would be no James Bond. wasn't he a white Brit? Yes he was.


    So give me one good reason why we need to go away from who James Bond actually is to something he isn't, well?
    There's no need for fictional characters of any kind.

    There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

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    There's no need for fictional characters of any kind.

    There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.
    So blacks would be cool with making Shaft, John Henry, Jackie Brown, Apollo Creed white? A Chinese Zorro? How about Thor, Hercules, Achilles Mexican?

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    So blacks would be cool with making Shaft, John Henry, Jackie Brown, Apollo Creed white? A Chinese Zorro? How about Thor, Hercules, Achilles Mexican?
    lol why are you trying to change the subject?

    There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

    Pretty simple.

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    lol why are you trying to change the subject?

    There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

    Pretty simple.
    Changing the subject or just giving you examples of just ridiculous it is to make the white James Bond a black guy?

    James Bond is white. What about that don't you understand? He didn't have a black mom or dad.

    So give me one good reason to have a black James Bond?

    So according to you the next James Bond could be a Mexican, then the next James Bond a Chinamen, right? So just do whatever ya want with him, ....a Texan....right?

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    Changing the subject or just giving you examples of just ridiculous it is to make the white James Bond a black guy?
    You're changing the subject.

    James Bond is white. What about that don't you understand? He didn't have a black mom or dad.

    So give me one good reason to have a black James Bond?

    So according to you the next James Bond could be a Mexican, then the next James Bond a Chinamen, right? So just do whatever ya want with him, ....a Texan....right?
    Nah, we've discussed this already. He's British, so south Asian or black would be completely plausible these days given the demographics.

    You can't come up with a good reason why he must be white forever.

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    You're changing the subject.

    Nah, we've discussed this already. He's British, so south Asian or black would be completely plausible these days given the demographics.

    You can't come up with a good reason why he must be white forever.
    Just because you don't understand how examples work doesn't make it changing the subject.

    It's on you to give a good reason why we need a black James Bond when it's a known fact nobody in his family has any African roots. So we need a black James Bond because......?

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    Just because you don't understand how examples work doesn't make it changing the subject.
    Of course it's changing the subject. Those are different characters.

    It's on you to give a good reason why we need a black James Bond when it's a known fact nobody in his family has any African roots.
    known fact for fictional characters.

    There isn't any real continuity when the character is rebooted, so his parents can easily be of African descent.

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    Of course it's changing the subject. Those are different characters.

    known fact for fictional characters.

    There isn't any real continuity when the character is rebooted, so his parents can easily be of African descent.
    Not even remotely close to changing the subject. Your ignorance of what an example is about is on full display here.

    You don't appear to understand that fictious or not all literary characters have a history. Bonds dad was named Andrew and his mom was Monique, they were white. I hate to break it to ya like this but you just can't ignore what any myth, cartoon, literary character, comic book hero. fable, is about. It simply doesn't work that way, but not surprised that you can't seem to figure this out.


    Superman was from Kryton, Conan was a Cimmerian, Tarzan lived in the jungles, Thor was from Asgard, you don't just......ah the with all that they are alll from Houston now.

    James Bond had white parents everybody knows that. So all of a sudden he doesn't? You can't be serious.

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    James Bond had white parents everybody knows that. So all of a sudden he doesn't? You can't be serious.
    Sure, that can easily be part of the reboot. His parents died when he was 11 in the books so it's not like there's some crucial heritage there. Besides, they've already made Bond movies that have no elements of a Fleming story in them at all. That happened 20 years ago.

    It's the movies, Avante. You have a severe lack of imagination.

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    Sure, that can easily be part of the reboot. His parents died when he was 11 in the books so it's not like there's some crucial heritage there. Besides, they've already made Bond movies that have no elements of a Fleming story in them at all. That happened 20 years ago.

    It's the movies, Avante. You have a severe lack of imagination.
    He's old school. He doesnt believe blackey should be taking good jobs from whitey.

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    Sure, that can easily be part of the reboot. His parents died when he was 11 in the books so it's not like there's some crucial heritage there. Besides, they've already made Bond movies that have no elements of a Fleming story in them at all. That happened 20 years ago.

    It's the movies, Avante. You have a severe lack of imagination.
    I have a fantastic imaginaton so another wrong.

    There is no logic at all in having a black James Bond especially knowing all those into the character know his history. It make absolutely no sense of any kind and everyone with common sense knows that.

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    He's old school. He doesnt believe blackey should be taking good jobs from whitey.
    I'm not old school at all so wrong as usual. What I am however is a fan of literature, and not cool with Hollywood disrespecting it just to make some $$$$$.

    A black Sherlock Holmes? A white Alex Cross?

    I know, ya don't get it.

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    I have a fantastic imaginaton so another wrong.
    You can't imagine a black guy from Britain.

    There is no logic at all in having a black James Bond especially knowing all those into the character know his history. It make absolutely no sense of any kind and everyone with common sense knows that.
    That's just it. All the people who know the character know that he gets rebooted and changes every few years.

    Just common sense.

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    You can't imagine a black guy from Britain.

    That's just it. All the people who know the character know that he gets rebooted and changes every few years.

    Just common sense.
    You have any idea at all how many black athletes we see from Great Britain? Ever hear of Linford Christie the 1992 Olympic 100m gold medalist? So add another wrong.


    And all those who know the character know no matter what James Bond is a white Brit. Simply common sense.

    Check it out.

    Great Britian All Black...4x1 team

    Dwain Chambers...CJ Ujah....John Regis...Linford Christie

    Dude, I can't believe your ignorance.

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    You have any idea at all how many black athletes we see from Great Britain? Ever hear of Linford Christie the 1992 Olympic 100m gold medalist? So add another wrong.
    Great. Now imagine a black James Bond.


    And all those who know the character know no matter what James Bond is a white Brit. Simply common sense.
    There's nothing that requires his being white in the movies forever. Simply common sense.

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