Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[TSA]

So you are totally fine with destroying the rule of law for your Dear Leader.

Because that never goes wrong, you ing muppet.

How is timing the release of do ents out of the DOJ that were requested by congress destroying the rule of law?

[dabom]

Rachel Maddow: drumpf Not Flogging Critics by Taking Sec. Clearances, He's Hamstringing Witnesses.

doing so denies them access to their files and notes sequestered in the various agencies they worked for and makes it impossible to prepare for testimony that might be required of them as the Trump/Russia probe moves forward.
A cursory examination of the officials being threatened makes this clear:



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...555807?v=railb

All were in crucial positions to observe or investigate the Trump campaign during the time period involved.

"Look at almost all the names on the list of people the president wants to do this to. Brennan, CIA director during the Russia attack.

Clapper, director of national intelligence during the Russia attack.

Comey, director of the FBI during the Russia attack.

McCabe, deputy director of the FBI during the Russia attack.

Strzok, head of counterintelligence at the FBI during the Russia attack.

Susan Rice, national security adviser during the Russia attack.

Sally Yates, deputy attorney general during the Russia attack.

Security clearances may or may not be something any of these people are using for their current work.

But if they are stripped of their clearances or blocked from ever getting them again,

what does that do to their ability to prepare for testimony and to testify if need be?

We have good reason, after all, to think that

a bunch of these people might have important things to say

provided they can speak about classified material in a classified setting."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

That sick .

[TSA]

here is bruce ohr's name in the washington post the day before that article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.d0c8f45396bc

You should email and correct WaPo fact checker Glenn Kessler

[DarrinS]

Trump's complete politicization of the DOJ would be much, much worse, TSA.

It's not even close.

I’m so glad it wasn’t politicized under Obama.

[Chucho]

Can you name any “collusion” that was instigated by a government informant?

I don't play these games. You're informed, you know there's more evidence of potential collusion then there is of a frame.

[spurraider21]

You should email and correct WaPo fact checker Glenn Kessler

nah i'm good. its not that important to me.

[TSA]

So you admit they didn't affect the election at all like you pray Trump's DOJ does now.

Cool.

Yeah, they had the dossier all summer and fall and did nothing with it.

Your conspiracy theory makes no sense. That's why you run away whenever I call you out on it.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=119460

[Pavlov]

I’m so glad it wasn’t politicized under Obama.

How was it politicized under Obama, Darrin?

[TSA]

I don't play these games. You're informed, you know there's more evidence of potential collusion then there is of a frame.

I know each instance of potential “collusion” was instigated by government informants aka frame job.

[Pavlov]

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=119460

Computer nerds?

Where's the FBI/DOJ leak, TSA?

What is your conspiracy theory here?

[TSA]

Trump's complete politicization of the DOJ would be much, much worse, TSA.

It's not even close.

[Pavlov]

Why is that funny, TSA?

Explain.

[Pavlov]

I know each instance of potential “collusion” was instigated by government informants aka frame job.

You know?

What is your evidence?

[TSA]

How was it politicized under Obama, Darrin?

If the Russian investigation was started knowing it was all a set up using government informants to frame Trump as a Russian puppet would that be politicization yes or no?

[Pavlov]

If

[TSA]

You know?

What is your evidence?

Mifsud and Halper both approached the Trump campaign. Not a government informant but Fusion GPS (Clinton/DOJ Ohr) approached the Trump campaign with a meeting for Russian dirt. Every single instance was a set up to try and frame collusion.

[TSA]

Dodge #1

If the Russian investigation was started knowing it was all a set up using government informants to frame Trump as a Russian puppet would that be politicization yes or no?

[TSA]

Why is that funny, TSA?

Explain.

You’re claiming a frame job by the FBI/DOJ to set up the eventual President and attack the legitimacy of his Presidency is somehow worse than said President slow rolling the release of do ents proving the frame job in order to swing the mid-terms.

That is ing hilarious.

[Pavlov]

Mifsud and Halper both approached the Trump campaign. Not a government informant but Fusion GPS (Clinton/DOJ Ohr) approached the Trump campaign with a meeting for Russian dirt. Every single instance was a set up to try and frame collusion.

you just spout of your conspiracy theories like they are true.

You have no evidence Misfud works for the US government.

You have no evidence "Clinton/DOJ Ohr" had anything to to with the adoptions meeting.

You run away every time you are called out on it.

[Pavlov]

Dodge #1

If the Russian investigation was started knowing it was all a set up using government informants to frame Trump as a Russian puppet would that be politicization yes or no?

Of a few agents?

Sure.

But you have zero evidence of that.

You actively want Trump to completely politicize the DOJ for his partisan whims because you don't like Hillary Clinton. That's insane. I'm not exaggerating when I say that's insane.

What you're cheering for is insane.

[Chucho]

You’re claiming a frame job by the FBI/DOJ to set up the eventual President and attack the legitimacy of his Presidency is somehow worse than said President slow rolling the release of do ents proving the frame job in order to swing the mid-terms.

That is ing hilarious.

Yeah, I don't buy into that either. It's just another crutch for pissed off Demos to use when they lose elections they claim early victory on. The basic reason the party keeps losing is two-fold; it's a mess with it's messages and mixed stances and the pandering to ultra minority groups isn't paying off because those ultra minority groups make up the ultra minority of the voting base, as shocking as that is to them.

[Pavlov]

You’re claiming a frame job by the FBI/DOJ to set up the eventual President and attack the legitimacy of his Presidency is somehow worse than said President slow rolling the release of do ents proving the frame job in order to swing the mid-terms.

That is ing hilarious.

Yes. It's is incalculably worse, TSA. I always thought you were a reasonably intelligent person but you're a ing idiot if you can't see what a disaster that would be.

[TSA]

you just spout of your conspiracy theories like they are true.

You have no evidence Misfud works for the US government.

You have no evidence "Clinton/DOJ Ohr" had anything to to with the adoptions meeting.

You run away every time you are called out on it.

I never claimed Mifsud works for the US government. Nice try though. Mifsud works with Western intelligence, for which government(s) doesn’t matter.

Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS. Ohr was in contact with Simpson. Fusion GPS set up the meeting. The translator in the meeting was on old State Department contractor.

[Pavlov]

I never claimed Mifsud works for the US government. Nice try though. Mifsud works with Western intelligence, for which government(s) doesn’t matter.

Of course it matters. It's your conspiracy theory. Explain it.

Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS. Ohr was in contact with Simpson. Fusion GPS set up the meeting. The translator in the meeting was on old State Department contractor.

So the Russians were hired by Fusion to work for the Democrats after the Russians hired Fusion to work for them?

Explain your conspiracy theory.

[TSA]

Of a few agents?

Sure.

But you have zero evidence of that.

You actively want Trump to completely politicize the DOJ for his partisan whims because you don't like Hillary Clinton. That's insane. I'm not exaggerating when I say that's insane.

What you're cheering for is insane.

Comey, McCabe, Strzok....just a few “agents”