Brandon Jennings: Manu is a Top 5 Shooting Guard of All-Time

[Chinook]

Iggy of all people should understand how important and great a sixth man can be. I can understand his bias toward Iverson, but come on with Miller and Allen.

[lefty]

I agree with Jennings tbh

And nobody is considering Porker as a top 5 pg

[SpursDynasty85]

Or AI would've been too shortsighted to feed Duncan's strengths effectively freezing him out as he was prone to do with his own bigmen Dikembe or Theo Ratliff.

Lol. Are you listening to yourself, who on earth would've fed Theo Ratliff or Dikembe the ball?

[SpursDynasty85]

Iggy of all people should understand how important and great a sixth man can be. I can understand his bias toward Iverson, but come on with Miller and Allen.

Your arguing Manu is clearly better than Ray Allen and Reggie Miller? Wow. I would argue I take Manu over Miller but arguing over Ray Allen is very difficult. Reggie Miller vs Manu is a great debate.

[dabom]

I agree with Jennings tbh

And nobody is considering Porker as a top 5 pg

[Chinook]

Your arguing Manu is clearly better than Ray Allen and Reggie Miller? Wow. I would argue I take Manu over Miller but arguing over Ray Allen is very difficult. Reggie Miller vs Manu is a great debate.

Allen was clearly the worst of the three: https://www.basketball-reference.com...01&idx=players

I agree that in terms of production, it's close, but Manu was just a much better winner than either of the others, and that's saying something considering that threw away multiple les.

[Canyonero]

Top 3, not top 5.

[BillMc]

Anyone ranking Reggie Miller over Manu

[BatManu20]

Reggie Miller is one of the greatest shooters ever certainly, and a deserved HOFer, but better overall player than Manu? No way.

[cd98]

Manu is special because of his all around game. Some guys were great scorers but couldn’t defend, or ball handle or pass or create. Manu was a great all around player and team leader. That elevates him above a lot of shooting guards.

[Mr. Body]

Pretty sure he was the first to bring the euro step to the NBA though I am probably wrong about that.

Sarunas Marciulionis is credited with bringing the euro step over first, but Manu was absolutely the guy who popularized it. I remember refs blowing whistles on him because they thought they were travels.

I'd pick Manu over Iverson, reluctantly. He's more all-around. Iverson got steals, but was often out of position due to bad gambles. Iverson also burned out rapidly and wasn't a great team player.

Manu is definitely over Reggie Miller, who was a specialist. I think I would pick him over Ray Allen.

And Jerry West always. Not just for his cheating as a GM, but he played when guys could barely dribble with both hands and just dumped it down to the big guys.

[Solid D]

I would put Manu and John Hondo Havlicek in there together. Both were star swingmen who came off the bench and won multiple (4 & 8 respectively) NBA championships.

[Bynumite]

Manu leading a team outside San Antonio and the spurs system would be Victor Oladipo status. A few all star appearances, a few 1st round exits and that's about it. That's in the east, because in the west he would be a glorified Dion Waiters.

[Ice009]

Allen was clearly the worst of the three: https://www.basketball-reference.com...01&idx=players

I agree that in terms of production, it's close, but Manu was just a much better winner than either of the others, and that's saying something considering that threw away multiple les.

Who threw away multiple les? You referring to the Spurs as a whole, or just Manu himself?

[Bynumite]

Top 3, not top 5.

Who's exactly supposed to give up his top 3 spot to Manu? Kobe or Wade?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I honestly think Iguodala doesn't like Manu, tbh. Seriously, during the playoffs last year he was mad dogging him disrespecting him openly. Did anybody else catch that?

[BillMc]

Manu leading a team outside San Antonio and the spurs system would be Victor Oladipo status. A few all star appearances, a few 1st round exits and that's about it. That's in the east, because in the west he would be a glorified Dion Waiters.

So Victor Oladipo or Dion Waiters could lead the Argentinians over the US Olympic team?

[ElNono]

Manu leading a team outside San Antonio and the spurs system would be Victor Oladipo status. A few all star appearances, a few 1st round exits and that's about it. That's in the east, because in the west he would be a glorified Dion Waiters.

So basically he would be Kobe without Shaq and Pau, and without hogging the ball and sinking his franchise...

[SpurPadre]

So Victor Oladipo or Dion Waiters could lead the Argentinians over the US Olympic team?

Thank you for shutting down that nonsense, tbh.

[Barfunk]

lol no. Iverson is a worse player than Manu on pretty much every aspect of the game. I don't care if he averaged 30 points per game on 29 shots, he's not on Manu's level.

3pt shooting? Manu.
Passing? Manu.
Defense? Manu.
Rebounding? Manu.
Blocking? Manu.
IQ? Manu.
Leadership? Manu.

Forcing your coach to play you 45 minutes per game to get a lot of shots up and average a high pts total on ty efficiency? Iverson.

+1 And Pop ruined Manu's stats. He is good for 22, 5, 5, and 2 easily, had he got superstar minutes. In turn, Pop did prolong Manu's career. Give and take.

[cd98]

Dude Iverson was an all time great pound for pound. What held him back was his at ude.

[TimmyBuckets]

I like this Brandon Jennings guy.

[FkLA]

Anyone ranking Reggie Miller over Manu

This. It reminds me of when people actually thought Manu/Rip Hamilton was a close comparison. Players who are good at scoring off of screens/off-ball movement don't have on the great Emmanuel David Ginobili, tbh.

[DAF86]

You must be too young to remember AI destroying the league with no help. I'll take prime AI on my team over prime Manu every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Iverson is my favourite player of all-time, and I know exactly the type of player he is. He was fun to watch play, but he was brutal for a team with actual championship aspirations.

[DAF86]

A little short sided. There is an argument but Manu never had to carry the load AI did. Manu was a swiss army knife for a championship team but AI was unstoppable for the first 6 years of his career. Hard to compare but AI with some help during those years like a Prime Duncan might've dominated like Kobe and Shaq too.

Manu was the number one option on several occasions, even in a couple of seasons with the Spurs. He already proved he can carry a team. Heck, he was the number one option of a 60 wins team. Iverson, on the other hand, never proved he could co-exist with another high usage offensive player.