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    Have British Spies Been Hacking the EU?


    The European Union has accused British intelligence agencies of disrupting Brexit negotiations—creating a new public dispute that could poison further an already toxic situation

    the gist is that that

    the European Union has accused the British intelligence agencies of hacking the EU’s side of the Brexit negotiations.

    Apparently, some highly sensitive and negative EU slides about British Prime Minister Theresa May’s plan for Brexit, the Chequers Plan, had landed in the lap of the British government,

    which then lobbied the EU to suppress publication.

    Of course, this could be a genuine leak from the Brussels sieve, as British sources are claiming (well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?).

    However, it is plausible that this is the work of the spies, either by recruiting a paid-up agent well placed within the Brussels bureaucracy, or through electronic surveillance.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/08/1...acking-the-eu/

    And Pootin laughs his ass off as his strategy of degrading, disrupting, embittering the EU continues to succeed.


    EU's handling of migrant invaders does more damage than anything Putin can do.

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    Pootin ROARING with laughter

    France Could Lose Billions In Brexit Trade Route Redirection

    In the ongoing Brexit debacle creating a lack of clarity over the future of European trade relations, France may end up getting cut out of important trade routes that bring billions in revenue—and Paris is now up in arms.

    France has vehemently slammed the

    European Commission‘s proposal to exclude French ports from the planned re-routing of a strategic trade corridor between Ireland and mainland Europe after Brexit.

    The new route proposed by the Commission would link Ireland by sea with Dutch and Belgian ports, including Zeebrugge and Rotterdam.

    Meanwhile, France‘s Calais and Dunkirk ports would be cir vented.

    French Transport Minister Elisabeth Borne
    excoriated the move, which could prevent France from taping billions of euros in an EU grant, as “not acceptable”.


    In a stern letter to European Commission transport authorities, she said France and Ireland’s “important trade channels” had not been taken into account:

    “The geographical proximity between Ireland and France creates an obvious connection to the single market…

    Surprisingly, the Commission proposal in no way takes this into account…

    This proposal therefore is not acceptable to France.”


    For France, much is at stake, including potentially billions in revenues from the ports themselves, jobs and funding for infrastructure from EU programs.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018...+capitalism%29

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    Current status of Calais


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    First tranche of "no deal" technical papers released:

    The level of what economists call “risk exposure” of no deal is 12.2 per cent of UK GDP. For the EU as a whole, it is 2.64 per cent.
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...no-deal-brexit

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    Checquers plan suplexed by EU Council, no plan Brexit is increasingly likely




    The “philosophy of cake”, as Mr Tusk has previously described it, has also now more generally entered the Brussels lexicon in areas beyond Brexit as a description of a negotiating party being unreasonable and wanting advantages without responsibilities.

    The Prime Minister was visibly shaking and upset at her press conference at the end of the Salzburg meeting following the full-throated rejection of her plan by the other EU leaders, which sources ahead of the summit did not expect in such vivid terms.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8548136.html

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    Current status of Calais

    No four freedoms, no single market.

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    Britain could see widespread medicine shortages if there is no deal to prevent friction at the border with the European Union after Brexit, the AstraZeneca chief executive told the Sunday Times.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KCN1M20Y9?il=0

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    dodgy funding for the leave campaign?

    the Electoral Commission said it had found serious offences in the funding of the Leave.EU campaign since the 2016 Brexit referendum, including loans from impermissible donors and the concealment of financial transactions.
    The Commission said it suspected criminal offences had been committed and that Banks was not the true source of 8 million pounds ($10 million) in loans to the Brexit campaign groups.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1N64W0

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    “In our analysis, Rock Services’ then and historic profits were not sufficient to enable it to have funded the 8 million pounds,” the Electoral Commission said, adding that it suspected the company did not fund the payment from its UK income as required by electoral law.

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    A no deal would be bad at first, but I think it would spark a sense of urgency from both sides that would finally get more compromises.

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    A no deal would be bad at first, but I think it would spark a sense of urgency from both sides that would finally get more compromises.
    rather a sanguine view.

    trade deals are tough enough as it is, imagine how much the tougher when one party is over a barrel.

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    rather a sanguine view.

    trade deals are tough enough as it is, imagine how much the tougher when one party is over a barrel.
    But it's not like trade is going to shut down if there is no deal, they'll revert to WTO rules. That will mean tariffs but it won't mean an end to trade.

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    oh, you sweet person. 20 of the WTO counties challenge the UK pe ion.

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    it's not easy, nor quick.

    Not even Ireland is solved yet.

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    unholy is about to break loose in the UK

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    unholy is about to break loose in the UK
    for the record, I hope I am wrong about that.

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    kind of a big deal: stable text on an Irish backstop and UK/EU customs arrangement.

    it's not a deal yet, but if it turns out to be one, that's a very important precondition of a final EU/UK Brexit deal.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/...7-brexit-deal/

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    kind of a big deal: stable text on an Irish backstop and UK/EU customs arrangement.

    it's not a deal yet, but if it turns out to be one, that's a very important precondition of a final EU/UK Brexit deal.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/...7-brexit-deal/
    Nigel Farage says it's the "worst deal in history".

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    Nigel Farage says it's the "worst deal in history".
    Pootin's tool Farage should STFU.

    He lied UK into Brexit as viciously as Trash lied his way into the WH.

    Both result in huge disasters.

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    Nigel Farage says it's the "worst deal in history".
    presumably because UK will have to comply with EU rules during the transition.

    what else is he ing about?

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    Pootin's tool Farage should STFU.

    He lied UK into Brexit as viciously as Trash lied his way into the WH.

    Both result in huge disasters.
    The UK doesn't participate in the Euro, doesn't participate in the Schengen Agreement, doesn't want to be part of the proposed European Army, etc. etc., etc... They should be allowed to exercise their right to leave and get a fair free trade agreement.
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    The UK doesn't participate in the Euro, doesn't participate in the Schengen Agreement, doesn't want to be part of the proposed European Army, etc. etc., etc... They should be allowed the exercise their right to leave and get a fair free trade agreement.
    what's fair? they want better than other countries, WTO, etc?

    England is still full of idiots, "nationalists" who think England is a superior country still, because 100+ years ago it was ruthless, racist, venal empire.

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    what's fair? they want better than other countries, WTO, etc?

    England is still full of idiots, "nationalists" who think England is a superior country still, because 100+ years ago it was ruthless, racist, venal empire.
    A Canada style trade deal.

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    A Canada style trade deal.
    wouldn't that set a bad example for anyone else who wants to leave the EU?

    can't really see why it's in the EU's best interest to give the UK a sweetheart deal.

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    wouldn't that set a bad example for anyone else who wants to leave the EU?

    can't really see why it's in the EU's best interest to give the UK a sweetheart deal.
    Why would anyone want to leave if it's so great?

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