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    State dept Appointee at the international symposium I’m at could not have seemed more like an ignorant stooge reading a presidentially mandated bloviating bullsh$t script. The whole week had been filled with blunt, honest, open discussions about capability gaps and potential solutions with partner nations. Then this dingbat gets up there and (very poorly) reads a terribly written statement about how wonderful this administration has been in this part of the world (not true). And while the rest of the panel from Norway, Finland, Canada, Iceland, and Denmark all speak openly and conversationally about the topic, he only responds from poorly written talking points. It was embarrassing. In a following panel another person mentioned “if you want to hear about all the huge terrific things we’ve done here, go ask the state department. But for the rest of us, here are some of the things we need to address...” (insert lots of laughs from the room.) UGH. Other state dept person I was sitting next to made sure to lean over and specify that this doesn’t represent the whole department and this person is a RECENT appointee. At least the international delegations were there for enough discussions to see that this one fool does not accurately represent us as a whole.
    Trump's administration is literally a laughingstock.

    Kakistocracy.

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    yes! aid to other countries? that and bring it back here for our own people. time to cut the world off and let them try and swim on their own!

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    Legal Experts: White House NDAs Cons ute Felony Bribery For Both Trump And The Signers

    According to legal experts the non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) that the Trump Administration required White House staff to sign are felony criminal violations, and put BOTH Trump Administration officials and the signers in serious legal jeopardy.

    Much has been written about how the White House staff NDA’s are unprecedented and unenforceable:
    Dozens of White House aides have signed NDAs in exchange for working for Trump, who has long relied on such agreements in his business career, according to current and former administration employees.

    But NDAs have not been widely used by past administrations outside the transition time between presidents,

    in part because most legal experts believe such agreements are not legally enforceable for public employees.
    However, these NDAs are not just unenforceable.

    First, they are a clear violations of the
    Whistleblower Protection Act:

    Simply put, it is illegal for anyone in the Trump administration to impose a nondisclosure agreement on a member of the federal government

    that in any way limits that person’s ability to communicate with Congress and expose waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement.
    And it gets worse, much, much worse. These NDAs cons ute bribery of public officials:
    18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

    (c)Whoever—

    (A) directly or indirectly gives, offers, or promises anything of value to any public official,…for or because of any official act performed or to be performed by such public official...; or
    (B) being a public official,...directly or indirectly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally for or because of any official act performed or to be performed by such official or person;

    shall be fined under this le or imprisoned for not more than two years, or both.
    What needs to be understood is that a person’s cons utionally protected right to free speech is a “thing of value,”

    and hiring a public official is an “official act.”

    Further, because the NDAs forbid speech that could be injurious to Trump,

    it is a thing of value to Trump in particular, not to the government

    who is the actual prospective employer.

    As far as the law is concerned,

    it is no different from a cash payment to Trump for a government job.

    If Trump were requiring that prospective employees pay him $1000 for a job he would be clearly understood to be soliciting a bribe.

    Here’s where it gets interesting.

    Signing the NDA is therefore

    no different from paying the bribe in order to get the job, the thing of value to the prospect.

    Again, no different from paying Trump $1000 for a government job.


    Former
    White House ethics counsel:

    [Norman] Eisen points to the federal bribery statute (18 U.S.C. 201) as a statutory tripwire that Trump stumbled across.

    He says it is also clear that this is a personal concession to Trump,

    not to the government (e.g. a policy that says “thou shalt not leak”).

    “The thing that makes these NDAs, at least as described,

    different is that they continue to vest rights personally in the president even after he leaves office,” he says.

    “That shows that this is not a concession being made to the government in exchange for a job,

    but a personal one being made to the man who occupies the office.

    The president couldn’t of course demand a monetary payment from someone in order to be employed,

    and neither should he be able to do this.”
    White House staff may not have considered that they were committing a felony,

    and exposing themselves to two years in federal prison,

    when they signed Trump’s NDA to secure their White House job, but they were.


    Former director of the Office of Government Ethics:

    Walter Shaub says simply that

    “you can’t go around trading things of value for federal appointments.”

    What’s apparent here is that

    Trump has no idea that working for the American people is different from working for his family operation.
    Add to that extortion and emoluments violations, as cons utional scholar Laurence Tribe spells out:
    “I’ve argued and believe that the NDAs Trump might have extracted from executive branch employees (if that story proves accurate) are

    a form of extortion in terms of what they extract from government employees and have the stench of bribery as well,” he tells me.

    “I also see them as akin to the domestic emoluments

    a president is flatly forbidden by [Article] II from receiving from any state or from any component of the federal government because,

    in effect, they add to the president’s congressionally fixed compensation something that amounts to a personal benefit contributed to him by federal employees as a condition of their jobs.”

    He explains that even if “financial supplements to Trump’s White House salary …

    aren’t in the form of cash but instead take the form of reputation insurance or enhancement shouldn’t obscure the principle at stake.”

    He adds that these concerns are, of course, in addition to “First Amendment issues with enforcing the NDAs through prior restraints.”
    What

    we have is a criminal administration

    behaving in a criminal manner and

    not surprisingly breaking all sorts of laws in the process.


    Anyone that joins this criminal organization is unavoidably swept into criminal conduct and at extreme risk for serious criminal penalties.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

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    Legal Experts: White House NDAs Cons ute Felony Bribery For Both Trump And The Signers

    According to legal experts the non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) that the Trump Administration required White House staff to sign are felony criminal violations, and put BOTH Trump Administration officials and the signers in serious legal jeopardy.

    Much has been written about how the White House staff NDA’s are unprecedented and unenforceable:
    Dozens of White House aides have signed NDAs in exchange for working for Trump, who has long relied on such agreements in his business career, according to current and former administration employees.

    But NDAs have not been widely used by past administrations outside the transition time between presidents,

    in part because most legal experts believe such agreements are not legally enforceable for public employees.
    However, these NDAs are not just unenforceable.

    First, they are a clear violations of the
    Whistleblower Protection Act:

    Simply put, it is illegal for anyone in the Trump administration to impose a nondisclosure agreement on a member of the federal government

    that in any way limits that person’s ability to communicate with Congress and expose waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement.
    And it gets worse, much, much worse. These NDAs cons ute bribery of public officials:
    18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

    (c)Whoever—

    (A) directly or indirectly gives, offers, or promises anything of value to any public official,…for or because of any official act performed or to be performed by such public official...; or
    (B) being a public official,...directly or indirectly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally for or because of any official act performed or to be performed by such official or person;

    shall be fined under this le or imprisoned for not more than two years, or both.
    What needs to be understood is that a person’s cons utionally protected right to free speech is a “thing of value,”

    and hiring a public official is an “official act.”

    Further, because the NDAs forbid speech that could be injurious to Trump,

    it is a thing of value to Trump in particular, not to the government

    who is the actual prospective employer.

    As far as the law is concerned,

    it is no different from a cash payment to Trump for a government job.

    If Trump were requiring that prospective employees pay him $1000 for a job he would be clearly understood to be soliciting a bribe.

    Here’s where it gets interesting.

    Signing the NDA is therefore

    no different from paying the bribe in order to get the job, the thing of value to the prospect.

    Again, no different from paying Trump $1000 for a government job.


    Former
    White House ethics counsel:

    [Norman] Eisen points to the federal bribery statute (18 U.S.C. 201) as a statutory tripwire that Trump stumbled across.

    He says it is also clear that this is a personal concession to Trump,

    not to the government (e.g. a policy that says “thou shalt not leak”).

    “The thing that makes these NDAs, at least as described,

    different is that they continue to vest rights personally in the president even after he leaves office,” he says.

    “That shows that this is not a concession being made to the government in exchange for a job,

    but a personal one being made to the man who occupies the office.

    The president couldn’t of course demand a monetary payment from someone in order to be employed,

    and neither should he be able to do this.”
    White House staff may not have considered that they were committing a felony,

    and exposing themselves to two years in federal prison,

    when they signed Trump’s NDA to secure their White House job, but they were.


    Former director of the Office of Government Ethics:

    Walter Shaub says simply that

    “you can’t go around trading things of value for federal appointments.”

    What’s apparent here is that

    Trump has no idea that working for the American people is different from working for his family operation.
    Add to that extortion and emoluments violations, as cons utional scholar Laurence Tribe spells out:
    “I’ve argued and believe that the NDAs Trump might have extracted from executive branch employees (if that story proves accurate) are

    a form of extortion in terms of what they extract from government employees and have the stench of bribery as well,” he tells me.

    “I also see them as akin to the domestic emoluments

    a president is flatly forbidden by [Article] II from receiving from any state or from any component of the federal government because,

    in effect, they add to the president’s congressionally fixed compensation something that amounts to a personal benefit contributed to him by federal employees as a condition of their jobs.”

    He explains that even if “financial supplements to Trump’s White House salary …

    aren’t in the form of cash but instead take the form of reputation insurance or enhancement shouldn’t obscure the principle at stake.”

    He adds that these concerns are, of course, in addition to “First Amendment issues with enforcing the NDAs through prior restraints.”
    What

    we have is a criminal administration

    behaving in a criminal manner and

    not surprisingly breaking all sorts of laws in the process.


    Anyone that joins this criminal organization is unavoidably swept into criminal conduct and at extreme risk for serious criminal penalties.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre
    Only 6 more years

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    John Dean


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    Memo To Trump’s White House Staff: FYI.

    Very few people who worked at Nixon’s White House later included that fact on their resumes.

    It doesn’t do much for a career to be on the wrong side of history,

    nor to have worked for the worst president in American history.


    12:19 AM - Aug 17, 2018

    "awesome" career advice from John Dean


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    GOP consultant Rick Wilson crushes ‘politically spent’ Steve Bannon for trying to ‘slither back into the spotlight’


    Bannon is going to keep trying to slither back into the political spotlight,” Wilson added,”

    “He wants Trump to be a nationalist populist because

    Steve Bannon is an authoritarian-curious kind of guy

    who has infected the Republican party with an anti-conservative pro-nationalist message —

    and for a while, Trump was their avatar.”


    “This is Bannon trying to come back,” he concluded dismissively.

    Wilson later

    called out President Trump for destroying the dignity of the presidency,

    adding the president,

    “Rage tweets on the toilet in the morning while he’s engaged in petty tabloid and reality TV beefs with people.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/gop...e+Raw+Story%29

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    Donald Trump and the Rise of Patriotism

    When Donald Trump says he is anti-establishment he means that

    he is against the protections of nature, poor people, peace, immigrants, minorities and women the state has traditionally provided, however lamely.

    Donald Trump has replaced the concept of a government with the concept of a fascist oligarch state.

    The focus of trade deals is “winning”.

    The number one purpose of the United State government is not to provide for its people, but to keep immigrants out.

    Environmental protections of the land in the United States are a joke to Trump,

    as the only purpose is the growth of global business, a.k.a the 1%.

    Remarkably, many people do not care.

    The only product Donald Trump has delivered on is hate,

    and this appears to be enough for almost everyone in the Republican party.


    Donald Trump has proven that

    patriotism represents

    xenophobia,

    environmental degradation,

    global oligarchs,

    fundamentalism,

    police and

    the military.

    There is nothing else he stands for.

    Clearly Trump is a nationalist, in a rather new way.

    He is focused only on winning and self-interest. He doesn’t care about anything else.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/17/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-patriotism/

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    New York Times Anything but ‘Failing’


    CNN:

    “In his tweet, Trump again called the Times ‘failing,’

    but the newspaper actually reported a healthy second-quarter profit.

    Two years ago today, he also called the Times ‘failing’ and ‘dying.’

    The Times‘ stock is up nearly 77% since that tweet.”


    http://www.pensitoreview.com/2018/08/20/new-york-times-anything-but-failing/

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    "he is against the protections of nature, poor people, peace, immigrants, minorities and women"

    Nature - most Americans put higher importance in economy

    Poor people - economy is booming

    Peace - He just met with Kim....

    Immigrants - he married one. Democrats still unable to comprehend illegal immigration =/= immigration

    Minorities - treatment of majority is more important

    Women - ?

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    I don't get the knock on Trump for "speaks perfect English" - if that mattered to him would he marry 2 women with very strong foreign accents and listen to that all day long?

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    I don't get the knock on Trump for "speaks perfect English"
    Of course you don't.

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    Of course you don't.
    Actually, that's something my dh considered - whether he could listen to my accent for the rest of his life.

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    Actually, that's something my dh considered - whether he could listen to my accent for the rest of his life.
    So you're used to that kind of thing.

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    I don't get the knock on Trump for "speaks perfect English" - if that mattered to him would he marry 2 women with very strong foreign accents and listen to that all day long?
    Why do you think he said the officer spoke perfect English? What was he implying with that statement?

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    "He's great. Very articulate."

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    Why do you think he said the officer spoke perfect English? What was he implying with that statement?
    so you are suppose to read minds and imply things now

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    so you are suppose to read minds and imply things now
    That's what's speech is for dumb .

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