Genocide in South Africa

[Winehole23]

lemme guess, Obama's fault?

[ElNono]

tbh, I think it's pretty hilarious to see the demagoguery of racism coming out of the closet one more time. This is one of the many perils of insecure, populist leadership. It brings out de able positions from people stuck in the past, and tries to legitimize them, when the reality is that the world learned the painful lessons many decades ago, moved on, and it's not going back.

Poland is a very fine country that currently is experiencing much lower levels of xenophobia and antisemitism than in the late 90's, when the economy took a hit while the country was coming out of communism (and had nothing to do with immigration). Once it became part of the European Union, it has steadily increased it's levels of both political and ethnic tolerance. That's what the actual social studies on the country say that's been happening in the past couple of decades.

Even the Polish government has tackled racism head on (look up: Krajowy Program Przeciwdziałania Dyskryminacji Rasowej, Ksenofobii i Związanej z Nimi Nietolerancji). Much like the rest of the civilized world.

To be fair, FrostKing/Infinite Limit/Chicago-whatever-was-before-that, always has been a proud racist. Questions like "do you feel safe?" are the prototypical appeal to emotions question, integral to demagoguery. That's because if you appeal to rationality, you know all the whites are not going back to Europe, and all the blacks aren't packing their bags and going back to Africa, and LkrFan isn't going back to Mejico. It's a moot point, there's no racial wars coming, and there's no segregation making a comeback, etc. Why? Because even the vast majority of white people don't want to go back there. They know it was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

[Winehole23]

hope you're right about that. I wouldn't underestimate a zealous quarter.

[ElNono]

hope you're right about that. I wouldn't underestimate a zealous quarter.

It's not a matter of energy or momentum, it's simply lack of support, IMO. Behind the snark remarks about how major European metropolis are being overtaken by ethnic pluralism, is both the lament and tacit admission that the world has moved on. Any master plan for any kind of racial revolution, will require winning the minds of those people too.

[LkrFan]

tbh, I think it's pretty hilarious to see the demagoguery of racism coming out of the closet one more time. This is one of the many perils of insecure, populist leadership. It brings out de able positions from people stuck in the past, and tries to legitimize them, when the reality is that the world learned the painful lessons many decades ago, moved on, and it's not going back.

Poland is a very fine country that currently is experiencing much lower levels of xenophobia and antisemitism than in the late 90's, when the economy took a hit while the country was coming out of communism (and had nothing to do with immigration). Once it became part of the European Union, it has steadily increased it's levels of both political and ethnic tolerance. That's what the actual social studies on the country say that's been happening in the past couple of decades.

Even the Polish government has tackled racism head on (look up: Krajowy Program Przeciwdziałania Dyskryminacji Rasowej, Ksenofobii i Związanej z Nimi Nietolerancji). Much like the rest of the civilized world.

To be fair, FrostKing/Infinite Limit/Chicago-whatever-was-before-that, always has been a proud racist. Questions like "do you feel safe?" are the prototypical appeal to emotions question, integral to demagoguery. That's because if you appeal to rationality, you know all the whites are not going back to Europe, and all the blacks aren't packing their bags and going back to Africa, and LkrFan isn't going back to Mejico. It's a moot point, there's no racial wars coming, and there's no segregation making a comeback, etc. Why? Because even the vast majority of white people don't want to go back there. They know it was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

Solid points son tbh.

[boutons_deux]

South African Farmers 'Furious' over Trump Land Reform Tweet

South African farmers have demanded Donald Trump "leave us the alone"

after the U.S. president criticised the country's land reform plans, accusing him of trying to deflect attention from his own scandals.

"The people were furious about Trump — and I think they still are,"

said Preline Swart, a 37-year-old black woman who farms grain and cattle with her husband east of Cape Town.

"He's an outsider and he knows nothing about farming,"

she said on the sidelines of a summit of farmers, officials and industry players in Bela Bela, 160 kilometers northeast of Johannesburg.

South Africa's government reacted to the tweet with officials

telling their American counterparts Trump's comments were "alarmist, false, inaccurate and misinformed."

"He doesn't understand the South Africa situation.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...0826-0007.html

[FrostKing]

[FrostKing]

tbh, I think it's pretty hilarious to see the demagoguery of racism coming out of the closet one more time. This is one of the many perils of insecure, populist leadership. It brings out de able positions from people stuck in the past, and tries to legitimize them, when the reality is that the world learned the painful lessons many decades ago, moved on, and it's not going back.

Poland is a very fine country that currently is experiencing much lower levels of xenophobia and antisemitism than in the late 90's, when the economy took a hit while the country was coming out of communism (and had nothing to do with immigration). Once it became part of the European Union, it has steadily increased it's levels of both political and ethnic tolerance. That's what the actual social studies on the country say that's been happening in the past couple of decades.

Even the Polish government has tackled racism head on (look up: Krajowy Program Przeciwdziałania Dyskryminacji Rasowej, Ksenofobii i Związanej z Nimi Nietolerancji). Much like the rest of the civilized world.

To be fair, FrostKing/Infinite Limit/Chicago-whatever-was-before-that, always has been a proud racist. Questions like "do you feel safe?" are the prototypical appeal to emotions question, integral to demagoguery. That's because if you appeal to rationality, you know all the whites are not going back to Europe, and all the blacks aren't packing their bags and going back to Africa, and LkrFan isn't going back to Mejico. It's a moot point, there's no racial wars coming, and there's no segregation making a comeback, etc. Why? Because even the vast majority of white people don't want to go back there. They know it was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

I find your post fair and I agree with it for the most part

I believe this was low hanging fruit on my part. In the grand scheme of things: I am satisfied that certain topics are now back on the table.

My perspective of America: wild, individualism, patriotic, mass, and light beer


America must remain: Capitalistic and American dream [low taxes, legal immigration, free speech/expression]. When the MidWest fills up with bodies then strategy re-calculates.

[TDMVPDPOY]

one must question about those former/current colonies of the white euopean overlords in that hole called africa, why didnt they develop them countries?

[FrostKing]

one must question about those former/current colonies of the white euopean overlords in that hole called africa, why didnt they develop them countries?

The Asian man basically accuses the Africans (certain part of it) as lazy and either allowing the railroads to rott in the sun or outright they took it apart and sold the pieces! He says the Belgium raised Africans party too much - drink their paycheck away. IMO atleast these types worked.

[Pavlov]

lol white people

[FrostKing]

lol white people

22K posts?

Show off which main act you are. The main Left handle on this Forum or just a minion?

[ElNono]

I find your post fair and I agree with it for the most part

I believe this was low hanging fruit on my part. In the grand scheme of things: I am satisfied that certain topics are now back on the table.

My perspective of America: wild, individualism, patriotic, mass, and light beer

America must remain: Capitalistic and American dream [low taxes, legal immigration, free speech/expression]. When the MidWest fills up with bodies then strategy re-calculates.

But are they on the table? The reaction to a racially charged comment now among the vast majority of the population in pretty much any civilized country is repulsion. It's been like that for the past 50+ years, and, if anything, it has gradually become more prevalent over time.

White supremacists always had the right to speak and say whatever they want (at least in the US), and they're still massively shunned whenever they spew their stupidity. Their ideas of racial superiority have become obsolete and thus, they're a fringe minority nobody really pays attention to anymore.

That doesn't mean racism doesn't exist, or white privilege doesn't exist. They do, but they're generally no longer a major handicap/advantage to success, and rightly so.

Polish people also don't have to look back too far to recall that having sex with a German woman was an offense punishable by death under the Nazi rule (racial defilement or Rassenschande). It's unfortunate so many people had to die so we could move away from sheer stupidity.

[FrostKing]

But are they on the table? The reaction to a racially charged comment now among the vast majority of the population in pretty much any civilized country is repulsion. It's been like that for the past 50+ years, and, if anything, it has gradually become more prevalent over time.

White supremacists always had the right to speak and say whatever they want (at least in the US), and they're still massively shunned whenever they spew their stupidity. Their ideas of racial superiority have become obsolete and thus, they're a fringe minority nobody really pays attention to anymore.

That doesn't mean racism doesn't exist, or white privilege doesn't exist. They do, but they're generally no longer a major handicap/advantage to success, and rightly so.

Polish people also don't have to look back too far to recall that having sex with a German woman was an offense punishable by death under the Nazi rule (racial defilement or Rassenschande). It's unfortunate so many people had to die so we could move away from sheer stupidity.

Topics that were laughed at: demographic replacement; are now openly referenced. But I agree it is a lost cause in the USA. Current population, legal immigration, illegal, suicides/gay/mixed children ; USA will be in the next 25 years not majority white devils. But i spent most my life in California so I am use to the minority role.

[boutons_deux]

"My perspective of America: wild, individualism, patriotic, mass, and light beer

America must remain: Capitalistic and American dream"

goddamn, you're ing stupid, propagandized into idiocy, duped by bull myths, ignorant the most fundamental facts

[ElNono]

Topics that were laughed at: demographic replacement; are now openly referenced. But I agree it is a lost cause in the USA. Current population, legal immigration, illegal, suicides/gay/mixed children ; USA will be in the next 25 years not majority white devils. But i spent most my life in California so I am use to the minority role.

It's talked about because it's a relatively novel event (I mean, there was a demographic replacement too when Europe invaded the Americas, but in that case it wasn't as organic as this is), not because it's seen in a bad light, unless you're particularly fixated on race. And it's relatively well studied that has nothing to do with gays/suicides/mixed children (which always existed, even when the white population was growing), but much more to do with socioeconomic factors. The baby boomer generation rode the bonanza post-World War II, and that was going to end at some point, plus, the fact that society relaxed much more about interracial relations, which, I should add, it's far from being a phenomenon confined to the USA, tbh...

Even in the USA, a lot of hispanic whites are also descendants of Europeans. After all, the Americas were colonized throughout. In that sense, skin color majority is probably pretty safe in the US for probably more than 25 years.

[boutons_deux]

one must question about those former/current colonies of the white euopean overlords in that hole called africa, why didnt they develop them countries?

the European colonists of Africa were only interested in extracting wealth from Africa, and that meant slaughtering Ms of Africans, selling them into the slavery in the New World. Nations and businesses have only SELF-interests, they aren't saintly do-gooder charities.

[FrostKing]

It's talked about because it's a relatively novel event (I mean, there was a demographic replacement too when Europe invaded the Americas, but in that case it wasn't as organic as this is), not because it's seen in a bad light, unless you're particularly fixated on race. And it's relatively well studied that has nothing to do with gays/suicides/mixed children (which always existed, even when the white population was growing), but much more to do with socioeconomic factors. The baby boomer generation rode the bonanza post-World War II, and that was going to end at some point, plus, the fact that society relaxed much more about interracial relations, which, I should add, it's far from being a phenomenon confined to the USA, tbh...

Even in the USA, a lot of hispanic whites are also descendants of Europeans. After all, the Americas were colonized throughout. In that sense, skin color majority is probably pretty safe in the US for probably more than 25 years.

I am fascinated by whether social debates will shift when Whites are <50%. For example will nepotism by Whites be allowed as with other demographics. IMO it won't because there is a portion of the population that will always default to: "But the founding fathers were all White and they created a system that would benefit Whites".

[FrostKing]

"My perspective of America: wild, individualism, patriotic, mass, and light beer

America must remain: Capitalistic and American dream"

goddamn, you're ing stupid, propagandized into idiocy, duped by bull myths, ignorant the most fundamental facts

Do you have an argument?

the European colonists of Africa were only interested in extracting wealth from Africa, and that meant slaughtering Ms of Africans, selling them into the slavery in the New World. Nations and businesses have only SELF-interests, they aren't saintly do-gooder charities.

So cute. There is no "saintly do-gooder charities". Not even the Church. Not even China's investment in Africa right now.

European colonists of Africa built infrascture to extract wealth. In the video the China man states: we didn't even have railroads in parts of China at that time and you Africans did. The Africans wasted it all. Europeans left, fast forward a century, those parts of Africa remain poor. What gives?

[hater]

you got deep- ed fingercuffs style by Russia and Germany in your last real war.

Your hole country is such a military joke that it became a meme.



https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-forgot-poland
https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/You_Forgot_Poland

[Winehole23]

I've been aware of the South African extermination for atleast 4 years.

yet oddly, you've posted close to zero information about it in this dedicated thread.

[RandomGuy]

I've been aware of the South African extermination for atleast 4 years.

I have been aware of Santa Claus for over 4 decades.

[Winehole23]

it's obvious he isn't trying to get the story out there so much as to identify possible allies. looks like he's already got a couple.

[Chris]

[Winehole23]

I'm not gonna click that.

What does the guy say, Chris?

Can you quantify this so-called genocide?

Do you agree it is one?