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    McCain was actually friends with many senators and former senators from across the aisle.

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    I've done nothing to disrespect the military, ass hat. In fact, everything I've ever done is to honor the military in so much as it is deserved. I've participated in homecoming parades. I doubt you get off your fat ass for stuff like that.
    How did you participate?

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    McCain was actually friends with many senators and former senators from across the aisle.
    Sure. There are neocons on both sides of the aisle.

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    Most have grown up in wealth that is how most have been able to get elected
    Takes money to win

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    putative enemy of Trump voted his way 83% of the time:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...e/john-mccain/

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    putative enemy of Trump voted his way 83% of the time:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...e/john-mccain/
    The big myth about McC was that he was a Repug moderate, probably because of some maverick-y bull , but he was neocon, always voted UP the military budget, and was in fact very conservative, not moderate.

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    putative enemy of Trump voted his way 83% of the time:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...e/john-mccain/
    When you were in college (assuming you went), was one homework assignment typically worth the same score as an exam?

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    the president's appointments aren't complete without the advise and consent of the US Senate.

    legislation isn't homework from the president, it's the work product of a co-equal branch of government.

    but I see what you mean, the Obamacare repeal was very important to DJT.

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    Most have grown up in wealth that is how most have been able to get elected
    Takes money to win
    The White House and/or Congress? Obama didn't come from wealth.

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    notwithstanding, John McCain by almost any measure was a very conservative US Senator.

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    notwithstanding, John McCain by almost any measure was a very conservative US Senator.
    He was quite a hawk as well but he came from a military family so I think he just had a military mindset. Hard to say he didn't know the cost of war though given his experience.

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    notwithstanding, John McCain by almost any measure was a very conservative US Senator.
    No.

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    Of course he was, he was just from a very different school of politics than the current gotcha, drama queen cadre of pols. I wasn't a fan of McCain's positions in a lot of areas, but he was respected by almost every peer.

    It's a school that I hope makes a comeback some day, one of reaching out, debating, negotiating for something that might not be all you want, but at least what you can get.

    The level of uselessness and unpopularity of Congress has escalated hand in hand with the larger degree of polarization and vitriol. It doesn't work for them and it doesn't work for us.

    That's how we end up with no budget and omnibus spending bills, last minute useless government shutdowns, risking the US credibility over some personal political gambit, etc.

    Ridiculous. If I can have a respectful conversation with you, even though we don't see eye to eye in a lot of things, there's no reason any two civilized adults can't do the same.

    Unless they're patently stupid, or they're putting their personal goals over what's best for their cons uency, which is a major contradiction to being a public servant.

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    "The level of uselessness and unpopularity of Congress has escalated ..."

    ... due to corruption of politics by big and mostly dark money from the oligarchy (oligarchy's SCOTUS5 delivering Citizens-United), where Repugs do exactly what the oligarchy (not voters) wants and block any attempts to reduce the status quo now blatantly rigged by the oligarchy for the oligarchy.

    The feckless Dem establishment, eg the Clinton faction, is also corrupted by money.

    There is no hope that the Repug party will return to its orientation that ended with Nixon and the start of the oligarchy/VRWC in the mid-70s.

    Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-27-2018 at 06:31 AM.

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    Of course he was
    No. He would sell out conservatives at every turn. He was very unliked by Republicans. Sure, he pretended to be conservative enough to get the nomination. He didn't give a after that; and he was gonna over conservatives in the end had he won. It's pretty much just as well that Obama won.

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    but he was respected by almost every peer.
    Doesn't mean a damn thing; The Senate is the good ole boys club.

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    public servant.
    Corporate stooge. There are few public servants, and McCain sure as wasn't one of them.

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    Doesn't get more pathetic than this. I guess dying is for losers.

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    Is Bonnerific someone's swearing alt, or does someone really need medication that badly? Fess up, guys.
    some fat church member who moonlights online as a hard ass. Its all self cartharsis. His fat wife likely has no idea.

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    Doesn't get more pathetic than this. I guess dying is for losers.
    Alpha Trump is supposed to honor McCain for ing over Americans? He made it clear that he's not a hero; tranny tears won't reverse that.

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    Alpha Trump is supposed to honor McCain for ing over Americans? He made it clear that he's not a hero; tranny tears won't reverse that.
    lol cheering your petty coward

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    notwithstanding, John McCain by almost any measure was a very conservative US Senator.
    Not by the Trump fellation measure which is the current definition of conservative in the conservative media.

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    Not by the Trump fellation measure which is the current definition of conservative in the conservative media.
    It was always the measure. Conservatives are rising beyond the ashes of cuckservatives like McCain.

    The chumpettes trying to tell us how conservative McCain was while talking about how much they like him.

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    lol cheering your petty coward
    You talking about you? I don't claim you (no matter how many times I've owned your ass), and I'm not cheering for you.

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    You talking about you? I don't claim you (no matter how many times I've owned your ass), and I'm not cheering for you.
    lol derp too stupid to realize I'm talking about Trump.

    Trump is the petty coward you worship.

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