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Crazy how some people think Parker was better than Manu. Lmao 😂 Manu is a top 5 SG of all time. For a bench player that’s ing ridiculous. Give this man the amount of shots kobe or wade had he would be much higher on the scoring list.
Manu was one of the all-time greats in the game.
I think NBA players recognize it more than the talking heads out there. Cris Carter and Shannon Sharpe have taken one too many blows to the head.
Crazy how some people think Parker was better than Manu. Lmao 😂 Manu is a top 5 SG of all time. For a bench player that’s ing ridiculous. Give this man the amount of shots kobe or wade had he would be much higher on the scoring list.
this feels like a death in the family. I all still watch spurs games, of course, but it won’ t feel the same. I wonder how long pop will go on. I will be hoping that Manu and his family will be in the stands watching some of those games.
Well i never expected manu to go this long so the last few years were an added bonus. Along with David , my altime favourite spur. Thank you Manu for everything you gave to basketball. You made the game a pleasure to watch & still won. In my era of watching ball only the likes of MJ & magic can boast the same.
Shaq hasnt said a word, neither Rasheed
Too bad nothing came from that for the MavsThanks for the memories, Manu!
When will the city of Charlotte put anything up in the rafters?
Never has there been a Spurs player that gave me more ups and downs that Manu. Manu (especially in his prime) would do 2-3 things a night that made you just say, "Wow." Now he also did 2-3 things that same game that had you cussing at the TV and throwing the remote. Can't talk about one without the other.
Just a few things I'm gonna remember: The entire Pistons Finals. The dunk on the entire Lakers team. Halloween night and the bat. These two passes...1)Behind the back to Blair 2)Bullet pass to Bonner.
These are just to name a few.
He's just a class act. Terrific guy. Never any nonsense outta him. Took a bench role happily. One of the best to ever don the Silver & Black. Now I'm waiting for both his Jersey Retirement Speech and his HOF Speech.
Enjoy retirement Manu. You deserve it. Many thanks.
Dan Rather lol
Very well said. I'd like to add that those "ups and downs" weren't just run-of-the-mill ups and downs, though. They were typically monumental peaks and deep canyons often during the course of a single game. That was the nature of his high risk/high reward style.Never has there been a Spurs player that gave me more ups and downs that Manu. Manu (especially in his prime) would do 2-3 things a night that made you just say, "Wow." Now he also did 2-3 things that same game that had you cussing at the TV and throwing the remote. Can't talk about one without the other.
Just a few things I'm gonna remember: The entire Pistons Finals. The dunk on the entire Lakers team. Halloween night and the bat. These two passes...1)Behind the back to Blair 2)Bullet pass to Bonner.
These are just to name a few.
He's just a class act. Terrific guy. Never any nonsense outta him. Took a bench role happily. One of the best to ever don the Silver & Black. Now I'm waiting for both his Jersey Retirement Speech and his HOF Speech.
Enjoy retirement Manu. You deserve it. Many thanks.
Very difficult to do, let’s not be hypocrites...
Its possible the Spurs never again reach the levels they played at for so long... They need someone unexpected to develop into a top player eventually...
Wow. There was literally no off ball players and 0nly Stephon Marbury was a decent shooter.
Amazing... at 40!
Ill miss him 4 sure.
He sounded so happy with his decision though and it felt like it was time... so to those who couldn’t bear last season... they missed it.
I was hoping he'd play at least one more year. I just don't like how last season went. I think this season we would have had a better chance to finish higher without all the Kawhi bull . For some reason, though, I'm nowhere near as sad as when Tim retired. I thought I would be, but maybe that is because I'm disappointed he retired while he could still play. Last season Manu showed he was still a good player in limited minutes, and it if was me, I'd still play if I was physically healthy enough. I'm pretty sure that Tim would also still be playing if his knees didn't pack it in. If I was in the same situation, and I was still physically OK (no major injuries), I'd only retire if I was having a negative effect on the team and hurting the team due to age related decline (less hops, slower reaction time/s, not being able to do what I want to do out on the court), but I don't think that was the case with Manu as he was still in pretty decent/good shape IMO.With Timmy you knew the knee was gone and so it was easier to accept him retiring I think. Manu could still play this year and play well I think...but him walking away on his own terms though is pretty cool for Manu. He had some really good moments last year and carried the Spurs in many games, especially down the stretch.
I'm really bummed I didn't get to see him play one last time, but really grateful for all the memories.
I still respect his decision, though. Maybe he wasn't interested in playing if there was no chance at winning a Championship. If that was the case, then I'm cool with that, and don't blame him one bit for retiring as we're used to competing for Championships rather than just to make the playoffs, and an ultimate compe or like Manu might not be interested in continuing to play just to make the playoffs.
damn, are you sure they aren't argies? daslicer, tell me again, what guard has more legend than manu from the 90s and 00s?
Lots of nice articles coming from my network of argentinean spies:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/sport...social_twitter
https://www.gq.com/story/manu-foreve...social_twitter
https://hoopshype.com/2018/08/27/man...source=twitter
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/08/27/ma...n=thecrossoverNevertheless, for the duration of his prime, the Argentinian lefty put up starter-like numbers anyway. Over a seven-season stretch between 2004-05 and 2010-11, Ginobili averaged 16.8 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 1.5 steals and 1.7 three-pointers per contest, shooting 45.4 percent from the floor, 37.4 percent from deep and 84.4 percent on 5.3 nightly free-throw attempts.
In that time frame, Ginobili led the Spurs in regular-season Win Shares on two separate occasions. (Yes, you read that correctly: Manu Ginobili, on a team with arguably the greatest power forward of all time on it, actually bested Tim Duncan in ac ulated Win Shares over a season – and he did it more than once.) More importantly, San Antonio won two championships over that stretch, one in 2004-05 and another in 2006-07.
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What helped Ginobili find all that ludicrous team success was that throughout his prime and even late in his playing days, he possessed an otherworldly ability to make outcome-changing impact in extended stints off the bench. That trait is best exemplified by the fact that the ball-handling maestro’s career Box Plus/Minus (+4.9) is the third-best mark since the inception of the three-point line among qualified players with fewer than 400 starts – and the two players ahead of him are current full-time starters who just haven’t crossed the requisite games-started threshold yet.
You might say that’s making a decent impact.
http://ballislife.com/nba-players-re...is-retirement/
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/n...medium=twitter
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.77e8078f0225
https://fansided.com/2018/08/28/nylo...-bench-player/When people think of the Spurs, Ginóbili isn’t the first to come to mind — that would be Tim Duncan or Coach Gregg Popovich. When people think of the best international players in basketball history, he isn’t at the top of the list, either — that would be Dirk Nowitzki or Hakeem Olajuwon. He made an all-star team only twice and earned the same number of all-NBA selections, both times to the third team.
But looking at Ginóbili through a narrow lens obscures the bigger picture. There are few players of the past generation who have made a larger impact on basketball.
With Kevin McHale as the only other non-starter to cross 100 Wins Added, Manu compiling an impressive 129 is a testament to his incredible impact across the board. He also leads all bench players who played at least 10,000 minutes in career Player Impact Plus-Minus.
Manu even stacks up amazingly against full-time starters in terms of career accomplishments, with his career Wins Added as the 35th highest since 1973-74.
Without a doubt, the most amazing part of having the privilege to enjoy Manu Ginobili for the past 16 years have been the what-in-the- -did-he-just-do moments that he provided every game he played in. He only had below a 20 assist percentage twice in his career and if insane, no-look, behind-the-back passes were tracked, I am sure he would have finished near the top of the league every single season.
NEXT: How will Carmelo transition to the Rockets?
As an elite compe or, Manu Ginobili just made his teams better. When he came on the court for his 25 minutes a night, the entire dynamic of the Spurs offense shifted. For his career, across countless iterations of the Spurs ever evolving offense, the team was 4.3 points per 100 possessions better with him on the court offensively.
Manu is one of just 15 qualifying players to average more than 18 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists per 36 minutes. He is the only one to do it from a bench role. He would and could do anything asked of him, sacrificing what surely would have been more individual acclaim to win four NBA les and become a legend for the Spurs, Argentina, and basketball as a whole.
Thank you, Manu, for an amazing ride.
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Manu Ginobili peak percentiles from my insider sheet:
scaled APM: 100%
AuPM: 99%
PS 3yr AuPM: 91% (among stars only)
Creation: 99%
Passer rating: 99%
And by my BPM:
8x All-Star
5x All-NBA
Top-5 in 2005
41st in career CORP
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