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    In B4 Apa/HH and CN show up in this thread

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    In B4 Apa/HH and CN show up in this thread
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    The 90's reputation of "physicallity" comes from the atrocious spacing that allowed for close body contacts. It was also an idicament of poorer skillsets and significantly poorer systems.

    To the 90s credit, they are closer to todays athletes in athletic ability but they lacked skillsets. Jordan, Hakeem, Reggie etc all deserve significant credit for ushering a new wave of players with a combined skillsets of those era.

    The truth of the matter is that the average NBA player in the 90s, if we were to evaluate talent in a vacuum would be flipping burgers or playing basketball in the indonesia league. Stever Kerr a man who played in the 90s even alluded to this.

    Should we however punish the 90s because they played in their own less compe ive era? I think not.

    But 90s basically really is trash compared to todays nba if we are speaking in terms of skills.

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    So many great centers in the 90s. Anthony Davis would be 2nd rate back then.

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    The 90's reputation of "physicallity" comes from the atrocious spacing that allowed for close body contacts. It was also an idicament of poorer skillsets and significantly poorer systems.

    To the 90s credit, they are closer to todays athletes in athletic ability but they lacked skillsets. Jordan, Hakeem, Reggie etc all deserve significant credit for ushering a new wave of players with a combined skillsets of those era.

    The truth of the matter is that the average NBA player in the 90s, if we were to evaluate talent in a vacuum would be flipping burgers or playing basketball in the indonesia league. Stever Kerr a man who played in the 90s even alluded to this.

    Should we however punish the 90s because they played in their own less compe ive era? I think not.

    But 90s basically really is trash compared to todays nba if we are speaking in terms of skills.
    I agree that today players are superior gym warriors = run faster and jump higher

    Superior skill set? Not seeing it. Just a bunch of 6'7' guards jacking up 3's or driving thru wide open lanes


    All of the Dream Team players attended College. Off the top of my head they did so for 2 to 3 years. Some of them were 2nd or 3rd fiddle players on their College team. This forced them to work on weaknesses and improve skill set.

    The current NBA player would be impotent on a non-spaced floor. Can't shoot mid range shots, can't consistently make free throws when fouled driving the lane and low basketball IQ to run an offense or play.

    Not to even mention they are mentally weaker, more fragile. As evident by their social media meltdowns

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    I agree that today players are superior gym warriors = run faster and jump higher

    Superior skill set? Not seeing it. Just a bunch of 6'7' guards jacking up 3's or driving thru wide open lanes


    All of the Dream Team players attended College. Off the top of my head they did so for 2 to 3 years. Some of them were 2nd or 3rd fiddle players on their College team. This forced them to work on weaknesses and improve skill set.

    The current NBA player would be impotent on a non-spaced floor. Can't shoot mid range shots, can't consistently make free throws when fouled driving the lane and low basketball IQ to run an offense or play.

    Not to even mention they are mentally weaker, more fragile. As evident by their social media meltdowns
    People hate to admit it, but a 3 pointer is an NBA skillset and we're seeing that skill reach its peak hence the ridiculous amount of three pointers. There is no evidence to suggest the current NBA player cant hit midrange shoots, infact Paul, Leonard, Durant etc are all super elite midrange shooters.

    Any player today would easily adjust in any era. They shoot lots of threes because its a systematic design not because they are atrocious at 2s. Even the Average free throw has risen.

    Social Meltdowns is embarrasing but thats a result of their own generation. Its not like Social Media was around the 90s for us to make a fair comparison. In the 90s, many NBA players probably raped thousands of White Chicks in bars etc, but those were rarely reported due to the lack of communication platform. In other words, who knows what 90s players would do if they are constantlt watched.

    Maybe they will end up like Leonard who just decides to not give a about social media but these decisions have financial implications.

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    A lot comes down to the 3 ball. It's just a more efficient shot, which makes scoring more efficient today, whatever you think of the product.

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    Mark Price would average 35 ppg and 18 apg in tday's NBA
    Steph Curry would be his backup

    Klay Thompson is a dumber looking Craig Ehlo

    KD is a skinnier Alex English

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    Mark Price would average 35 ppg and 18 apg in tday's NBA
    Steph Curry would be his backup

    Klay Thompson is a dumber looking Craig Ehlo

    KD is a skinnier Alex English
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    s are better than any arabcoons.

    Arabs are fine to be honest, but no respect given to arabcoons.

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    s are better than any arabcoons.

    Arabs are fine to be honest, but no respect given to arabcoons.
    What is an arabcoon?

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    s are better than any arabcoons.

    Arabs are fine to be honest, but no respect given to arabcoons.
    Ok, be@nercoon

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    The 90's reputation of "physicallity" comes from the atrocious spacing that allowed for close body contacts. It was also an idicament of poorer skillsets and significantly poorer systems.

    To the 90s credit, they are closer to todays athletes in athletic ability but they lacked skillsets. Jordan, Hakeem, Reggie etc all deserve significant credit for ushering a new wave of players with a combined skillsets of those era.

    The truth of the matter is that the average NBA player in the 90s, if we were to evaluate talent in a vacuum would be flipping burgers or playing basketball in the indonesia league. Stever Kerr a man who played in the 90s even alluded to this.

    Should we however punish the 90s because they played in their own less compe ive era? I think not.

    But 90s basically really is trash compared to todays nba if we are speaking in terms of skills.
    Demarcus cousins being the best Center in todays nba because he’s the only guy who can post up in the league and you are saying the league has superior skill set.

    Haven’t even seen a nice reverse pivot in years.

    No player can play the post like an Adrian dantley or Mark Aguirre, let alone a Mchale or Hakeem.

    And with regards to 3pters. The top 3 pt shooting seasons, by percentage, is dominated by seasons in the 90s, even when you take away the two season of shortened three point lines.

    http://bkref.com/tiny/BFdVj

    What we see today is merely an increased focus of using the three pointer as a weapon and rule changes that encourages way more three pointers (handcheck, no physicality in the paint so perimeter players have to give ridiculous space to stop drives, no low post presence).

    Players don’t suddenly learn to become they crazy shooters that players in the past can’t be. Ft shooting percentages and three point shooting contests are the best gauge of this as they are a view of shooting with absolutely no defense played and they have stayed constant or even dipped slightly in the last few decades.

    Early entry in the league has killed fundamentals and the league changed the rules to compensate for the total lack of basic basketball skills in order to boost up scoring.
    Last edited by ambchang; 08-30-2018 at 05:52 AM.

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    today's NBA players need more 2 pt balls to score 25 pts in the 3pt contest

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    Mark Price would average 35 ppg and 18 apg in tday's NBA
    Steph Curry would be his backup
    Steph Curry would be a role player in the 80's when players were allowed to hand check and be physical. Might've been out of the league in the 70's with no 3-pt line.

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    Steph Curry would be a role player in the 80's when players were allowed to hand check and be physical. Might've been out of the league in the 70's with no 3-pt line.
    True true

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