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    That guy named Bruce Bowen did pretty good for us being limited offensively.....JS . Josh may end up being ok if he truly has a superior work ethic. I like the potential

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    I hope the team can color coordinate some fiesta shoe colors. Like one night everyone wear orange shoes. Only because the Spurs colors are very boring.
    They had been doing so in the playoffs, I think it will continue and the team will embrace the colors even more in other ways. (branding)

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    That guy named Bruce Bowen did pretty good for us being limited offensively.....JS . Josh may end up being ok if he truly has a superior work ethic. I like the potential
    Easier to cover up Bowen when you have prime Duncan tbh. Is Huestis Bowen caliber on defense though? I would put Andre Robertson in that category defensively but not Huestis. Maybe he is a defensive gem, haven't seen enough of him.

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    That guy named Bruce Bowen did pretty good for us being limited offensively.....JS . Josh may end up being ok if he truly has a superior work ethic. I like the potential
    But Bruce was a 40%+ three point shooter. Heustis would be on a roster for sure if he shot as well as Bruce from distance

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    I like Huestis. I hope it works out. He's an energy player that defends. If his shot gets fixed tho...

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    But Bruce was a 40%+ three point shooter. Heustis would be on a roster for sure if he shot as well as Bruce from distance
    Bowen shot almost exclusively from the corners. In his Spurs career, he shot 84 percent of all his threes from that spot. Huestis, by contrast, has shot 36 percent of his threes from that same spot in his career. Not trying to get into this particularly debate, but Bruce's offensive output would not work in today's NBA. He benefited from a league that hadn't yet figured out how to defend the corner-three, so he could space the floor without really having to learn much on offense. Huestis doesn't have that luxury. Bruce did shoot significantly better from the corners than Josh does. Bowen shot 42 percent from that spot in his Spurs career while Huestis shot 36 percent last season (his only real one getting minutes). I agree Bruce was a more impactful offensive player than Josh is, by a good margin even. It's just that he has an even longer way to go to overcome that. What makes it worse that Huestis sucks all over the court, not just behind the arc. For his career, the dude has gone for 48 percent at the rim. To put that into perspective, both Danny and Bruce had seasons where they shot over 60 percent from the same area and averaged 58 and 57 percent for their Spurs careers.

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    I case you guys missed it, but Diaw has retired from basketball.

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    Bowen shot almost exclusively from the corners. In his Spurs career, he shot 84 percent of all his threes from that spot. Huestis, by contrast, has shot 36 percent of his threes from that same spot in his career. Not trying to get into this particularly debate, but Bruce's offensive output would not work in today's NBA. He benefited from a league that hadn't yet figured out how to defend the corner-three, so he could space the floor without really having to learn much on offense. Huestis doesn't have that luxury. Bruce did shoot significantly better from the corners than Josh does. Bowen shot 42 percent from that spot in his Spurs career while Huestis shot 36 percent last season (his only real one getting minutes). I agree Bruce was a more impactful offensive player than Josh is, by a good margin even. It's just that he has an even longer way to go to overcome that. What makes it worse that Huestis sucks all over the court, not just behind the arc. For his career, the dude has gone for 48 percent at the rim. To put that into perspective, both Danny and Bruce had seasons where they shot over 60 percent from the same area and averaged 58 and 57 percent for their Spurs careers.
    Both Bruce and Danny had Chip Engeland as their shooting coach.

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    Keep in mind that OKC couldn't afford to take on additional salary as their luxury tax bill was going to be enormous after signing PG to his max contract and having to eat Carmelo's huge contract. They were looking at the single largest luxury tax bill in NBA history if they were to keep Carmelo, Kyle Singler and Huestis' 4th year rookie deal. They knew before last season ended they were facing a serious salary / luxury tax situation so they really had no choice but to decline his 4th year option. Otherwise, his 4th year contract would essentially cost them twice as much when considering the luxury tax impact which is a dollar for dollar tax. I'm sure the Thunder would've liked to keep him as everyone in their organization says he was developing well and he did get ample playing time in key games during last season. It looks to me like he was not retained purely for salary/financial reasons. It looks like the Spurs may have landed a nice piece if he shows the defensive skills he displayed last season. He can develop his shooting stroke in time but right now he certainly has an NBA-ready skill with his defense.

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    Keep in mind that OKC couldn't afford to take on additional salary as their luxury tax bill was going to be enormous after signing PG to his max contract and having to eat Carmelo's huge contract. They were looking at the single largest luxury tax bill in NBA history if they were to keep Carmelo, Kyle Singler and Huestis' 4th year rookie deal. They knew before last season ended they were facing a serious salary / luxury tax situation so they really had no choice but to decline his 4th year option. Otherwise, his 4th year contract would essentially cost them twice as much when considering the luxury tax impact which is a dollar for dollar tax. I'm sure the Thunder would've liked to keep him as everyone in their organization says he was developing well and he did get ample playing time in key games during last season. It looks to me like he was not retained purely for salary/financial reasons. It looks like the Spurs may have landed a nice piece if he shows the defensive skills he displayed last season. He can develop his shooting stroke in time but right now he certainly has an NBA-ready skill with his defense.
    They declined his option before LAST season, assuming in October. I'm not saying PG on a max wasn't in the thought process. But they didn't know they were going to be in tax when they made their decision. They also didn't know that Roberson was going to get hurt, and that likely factored into their decision, as did the fact that they had just drafted Terrance Ferguson.

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    https://twitter.com/T1m_NBA/status/1037893680949067776

    Huestis played 1,000 minutes last season and wasn't good even if he was given ample opportunity. Highlight videos are tricky. Everyone's assuming he can shoot, block, and be Danny Green 2.0 but until he actually shows up in camp and earns a contract, it pays to be skeptical regarding his skill.

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    Keep in mind that OKC couldn't afford to take on additional salary as their luxury tax bill was going to be enormous after signing PG to his max contract and having to eat Carmelo's huge contract. They were looking at the single largest luxury tax bill in NBA history if they were to keep Carmelo, Kyle Singler and Huestis' 4th year rookie deal. They knew before last season ended they were facing a serious salary / luxury tax situation so they really had no choice but to decline his 4th year option. Otherwise, his 4th year contract would essentially cost them twice as much when considering the luxury tax impact which is a dollar for dollar tax. I'm sure the Thunder would've liked to keep him as everyone in their organization says he was developing well and he did get ample playing time in key games during last season. It looks to me like he was not retained purely for salary/financial reasons. It looks like the Spurs may have landed a nice piece if he shows the defensive skills he displayed last season. He can develop his shooting stroke in time but right now he certainly has an NBA-ready skill with his defense.
    Spurs may benefit from OKC's financial bind.

    Remember, OKC drafted Heustis before Spurs drafted Anderson. So we'll never know if Heustis was preferred over Anderson by the Spurs.

    Fingers crossed here that OKC' loss is Spurs win!

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    I like how Walker is smiling through that drill.., Presage of good things to come hopefully.

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    I like how Walker is smiling through that drill.., Presage of good things to come hopefully.
    Yeah , I picked up on that too. I really like our group of guys, I value player progression so much.

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    I like how Walker is smiling through that drill.., Presage of good things to come hopefully.
    I don’t think he’s smiling he’s just looking and trying to catch his breath at the same time. Almost like a slight grimace from being tired. Poetl is smiling though.

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    They declined his option before LAST season, assuming in October. I'm not saying PG on a max wasn't in the thought process. But they didn't know they were going to be in tax when they made their decision. They also didn't know that Roberson was going to get hurt, and that likely factored into their decision, as did the fact that they had just drafted Terrance Ferguson.
    Thinking about this, I imagine they could have signed him back on a minimum contract had they wanted to anyways.. GSW did that with Looney iirc.

    I am reflecting on that video of Huestis saying he'd rather play in a team where he will get a real opportunity to play, so maybe he's figured out that between Paul George and Roberson coming back from his injury, + the commitment made to Jerami Grant, he wasn't going to get minutes... anyway. It's on him, he had opportunities to earn a role the same way those guys made it (Grant for example was far from a given staying player when initially traded there)... Maybe he was offered the min. deal and he wasn't interested, but it's real risky. What if he doesn't make it in the Spurs? So, I am thinking he wasn't offered even the min. deal or his agent miscalculated interest in him. Either way, he should be desperate. It's now or never.

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    I don’t think he’s smiling he’s just looking and trying to catch his breath at the same time. Almost like a slight grimace from being tired. Poetl is smiling though.
    scroll to the second video.
    the first one is Bryn Forbes clearly grimacing.
    the second one is Walker clearly smiling

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    scroll to the second video.
    the first one is Bryn Forbes clearly grimacing.
    the second one is Walker clearly smiling
    I clearly didn’t notice the second video. And , they’re actually BOTH grimacing from pushing themselves through the drill.

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    Looking at 2019 draft prospects for SF's. I know nothing about college basketball but this: http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/08/...loaded-at.html suggests its a good draft. If we can move into the late lottery using both picks and Forbes if he has a great season then we can draft the SF of the future and have a rotation of pick/Gay/Blossomgame.

    EDIT: Looks like two French combo forwards are available. Interesting . . .

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    Looking at 2019 draft prospects for SF's. I know nothing about college basketball but this: http://www.nbadraftroom.com/2017/08/...loaded-at.html suggests its a good draft. If we can move into the late lottery using both picks and Forbes if he has a great season then we can draft the SF of the future and have a rotation of pick/Gay/Blossomgame.

    EDIT: Looks like two French combo forwards are available. Interesting . . .
    I think the Spurs need to trade both their picks and gather as many assets as they can. Right now they have a very strong balanced team. This draft is weak outside of the lottery. More than likely the 2 picks will be in the late 20's. The Spurs have a great young core of Murray, White, Walker, and Poeltl who all will need to be payed. There is no real need for a SF right now with Bertans locked up and Walker on the rise and especially if Gay sign for more years. Also I can't imagine a dynamic SF falling outside of the lottery in this weak draft. Draft and stash is a possibility, but more than likely that pick will bust. It might be smart to trade Militunov, Hanga, and Dangubic as well. I like Militunov but he's a worse Poeltl. DYK the Celtics might get 2 lottery picks this year? They are going to rule for a very long time. We have the opportunity to gather some assets while still competing. We might need to trade Derozan as well maybe for a overpaid veteran and picks in the last year of his deal. I just don't see how he could be in the future plans for the Spurs. Of course winning a le or getting to the WCF would complicate these ideas. Those are problems I would like to have.

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    Does anyone know anything about the spurs signing blossomgame? I’ll be pissed if he doesn’t get a camp invite at least

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    Does anyone know anything about the spurs signing blossomgame? I’ll be pissed if he doesn’t get a camp invite at least
    I'd give him less than a 10-percent chance of getting out of camp if they sign him. I could see him thinking that's not good enough. It's also not too likely he gets a two-way offer from the club unless Pon falls apart. I'd still like to see another wing brought in to compete for that last spot with Huestis and QP. But I could understand why both PATFO and Blossom wouldn't be too hasty in making him that guy.

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    Does anyone know anything about the spurs signing blossomgame? I’ll be pissed if he doesn’t get a camp invite at least
    Blossomgame can force his way into camp or a quick waiving by taking up his tender offer. I'm sure he knows where he stands with the club and will act accordingly.

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    We’re not going to get much in a trade with two mid late draft picks. The best I think we would be able to do would be mid 15 to 18 range which could get a very good player. I don’t know if next year will be a weak draft a lot depends on who comes out.

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