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    Comedian laments GOP attacks on socialism-friendly Democrats


    Comedian Jim Carrey says Democrats need to stop running from Republican attacks and “say yes to socialism”

    “We have to say yes to socialism — to the word and everything,” Mr. Carrey said Friday on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher.” “We have to stop apologizing.”

    His comment came after Mr. Maher complained that Republicans have targeted progressive Democrats who identify themselves as socialist by throwing up the Venezuela example.

    “But that word — the Democrats need to get a plan to fight this slander of, ‘Socialism, you’re going to be living in Venezuela,’ ” Mr. Maher said. “And I don’t see it yet.”

    Republicans pounced after a number of up-and-coming left-wing candidates — led by New York’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America — picked off established Democrats in this year’s primary contests.

    Mr. Maher described the Democratic Party’s move to the left in reaction to President Trump’s 2016 victory as a “shining spot.”

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    failing Capitalsm sucks, is why America is ed and un able

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    He's correct. There's nothing inherently wrong about socialism. Heck, the US has a ton on socialist-style programs, including the Military.

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    The notion that it's either capitalism or socialism is wrong. They can coexist depending on the context. And reasonable arguments can be made where capitalism works on certain areas, and socialism makes sense in others.

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    He's correct. There's nothing inherently wrong about socialism.
    Except for the fact that it always leads to communism. Collectivism in general is a pipedream and relies on 0% bad actors. It will never work.

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    Canadian.

    Hes seen government sponsored programs work, and not work.
    Shocker.

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    Except for the fact that it always leads to communism. Collectivism in general is a pipedream and relies on 0% bad actors. It will never work.
    Political scientist on the loose!

    Chris knows his history.

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    Political scientist on the loose!

    Chris knows his history.
    Nothing new under the sun. We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not repeat them. Socialism is big mistake.

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    The problem isn't socialist ideals. The problem is that "socialism" is a form of government, and when you try to mix it with capitalism and other "isms" it isn't socialism. It's like saying Islam is peaceful if you don't follow the tenets closely. There's no reason to use terms like socialism or capitalism if your system isn't either of them, which it actually isn't if you actually adhere to the definition of each instead of trying to rewrite the english language to make a point.

    Also, Jim Carrey is a nutjob. How much of his wealth do you think he's spread around to the needy?

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    this weirdo, would love to hear his take on how he gave pills to his ex and she died.

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    Except for the fact that it always leads to communism.
    Except that it doesn't. I can give you as many examples as you want about socialism used in contexts where capitalism can't fit the bill. Even in the US. None devolved in communism.
    Last edited by ElNono; 09-12-2018 at 09:23 PM.

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    The problem isn't socialist ideals. The problem is that "socialism" is a form of government, and when you try to mix it with capitalism and other "isms" it isn't socialism. It's like saying Islam is peaceful if you don't follow the tenets closely. There's no reason to use terms like socialism or capitalism if your system isn't either of them, which it actually isn't if you actually adhere to the definition of each instead of trying to rewrite the english language to make a point.
    Socialism is a range of both economic and social theories. You could create a form of government solely based on that, much like you could create a form of government based solely on capitalism.

    In reality the world borrows from each where it makes sense, even if one of the systems is heavily favored over the other. They can both clearly coexist under democracies or any other form of government.

    That's why demonizing the word socialism makes no sense. Almost every area of government that's either revenue neutral or a revenue loser runs some form of socialism, due to a higher mission (national security, social programs, law enforcement, etc).

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    Nothing new under the sun. We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not repeat them. Socialism is big mistake.
    Sure.

    The problem is you are dead wrong.

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    Except for the fact that it always leads to communism. Collectivism in general is a pipedream and relies on 0% bad actors. It will never work.
    sure...

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    "Those commies in the UK and Canada with their socialist healthcare system" said nobody ever... and the UK had that program running since WWII... they really are due for turning into commies

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    Yeah the good ol' UK who decided to murder Charlie Gard and not release him to his parents for special treatment outside the country. Good ol' Socialist healthcare making the tough decisions for you and your family.

    Sounds great!

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    Yeah the Charlie Gard case really defines UK's last 80 years and their alliance to communism...

    This is why people can't take you seriously, tbh, and likely why Twitter flagged you as a bot...

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    US killed 6 million Vietnamese for Capitalism.

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    US killed 6 million Vietnamese for Capitalism.
    But Charlie Gard...

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    Yeah the Charlie Gard case really defines UK's last 80 years and their alliance to communism...

    This is why people can't take you seriously, tbh, and likely why Twitter flagged you as a bot...
    One single event nulls everything.

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    Yeah the good ol' UK who decided to murder Charlie Gard and not release him to his parents for special treatment outside the country. Good ol' Socialist healthcare making the tough decisions for you and your family.

    Sounds great!
    Well now you will just run straight sideways...

    wtf...

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    Imagine the debate over borders and LEGAL immigration if USA went socialist

    Whoa. Socialism changes EVERYTHING. Prepare to have people judging what food you are intaking and how you are raising your children if socialism were inacted.

    "Do what you want, it doesn't effect me" is thrown out the window under socialism. Doesn't work in a multicultural nation. Western/Northern European nations are increasingly being hit with this reality.

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    And who is going to bring socialism??? Bernie ¨3 mansions¨ Sanders?

    In an essay lamenting what he described as the intractable income inequality of the American economy, Senator Sanders declared: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger.”

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    Doesn't work in a multicultural nation.
    Exactly.

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    The notion that it's either capitalism or socialism is wrong. They can coexist depending on the context. And reasonable arguments can be made where capitalism works on certain areas, and socialism makes sense in others.

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