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    Why do you think White was even trying out for the team rather than the main players? Why do you think the last tourney was played by all guys without NBA contracts? Why do you think Van Gundy is coaching rather than Pop? Whether you want to say it's because they're "too good" or because the NBA and FIBA have changed the standards for who plays in international ball. The answer is the same.
    FIBA changed the dates for the qualifying, not any kind of standards. They dropped it right in the middle of NBA training camp. Most NBA coaches wouldn't let their players participate. That's why the pool of players is what it is. It's also not critical. There are 16 teams from the Americas that will be narrowed down to 7 for next year's world cup tournament.

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    It’s good for White he gets to bond with Pop and gets to play against against good compe ors.
    Pop's not coaching that team, JVG is.

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    Weird that anyone would consider selection to Team USA a bad thing.

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    White could easily be in the top half of the rotation in total minutes played next season. My concern is that Pop doesn't see it that way and considers him a fringe rotation guy like pretty much everyone else on that list. For me, White joining the squad gives me a reason to watch those games next year. That's not the problem. Him not playing next season and having to watch Forbes run the point is.
    It's a concern. The tournament also has marginal players on the international side as well. No one who is a rotation player in the NBA is participating in that. As you mentioned, it seems to be designed that way to relieve pressure on NBA players from participating. I do question whether Pop doesn't expect White to be a rotation player this season.

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    FIBA changed the dates for the qualifying, not any kind of standards. They dropped it right in the middle of NBA training camp. Most NBA coaches wouldn't let their players participate. That's why the pool of players is what it is. It's also not critical. There are 16 teams from the Americas that will be narrowed down to 7 for next year's world cup tournament.
    FIBA changed their dates after consulting with the NBA. Imagine if they had done this a few years ago when the Argentine team was still a medal contender. Without their NBA players, it would have been really difficult for that club to have qualified.

    I also don't get why the games not being critical makes it better for White to be there.

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    I could be mistaken but I remember hearing around the time of USA training camp in Vegas that they were worried that the team might not qualify for the basketball World Cup. Jeff Van Gundy who is coaching the team said each game they play is seriously like a game 7 in the nba playoffs, it’s that important. Since Pop is the head coach of USA maybe he wanted to send a player that is a bit better then the rest of the team to assure that they win and the U.S qualifies.

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    It's two games and his commitment is over Monday. This is the best time for a young NBA player to participate. Classic ST overanalysis.

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    IMO, no doubt it will be a great experience, and considering White's humble basketball beginnings (not getting a scholarship to a Div. 1 school and having to prove himself + transferring, I bet he personally is honored and excited about this challenge to continue to prove himself.)

    It's really not about that, but a risk for injury so close to the start of training camp and the season, and him missing the scrimmage type of preparation + bonding that players go through in the 2-3 weeks prior to training camp, since most of them are already training with their clubs ...

    It doesn't matter if he's a rotation player next season, just Pop thinking he can be risked like that bc he got Forbes is ????

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    IMO, no doubt it will be a great experience, and considering White's humble basketball beginnings (not getting a scholarship to a Div. 1 school and having to prove himself + transferring, I bet he personally is honored and excited about this challenge to continue to prove himself.)

    It's really not about that, but a risk for injury so close to the start of training camp and the season, and him missing the scrimmage type of preparation + bonding that players go through in the 2-3 weeks prior to training camp, since most of them are already training with their clubs ...

    It doesn't matter if he's a rotation player next season, just Pop thinking he can be risked like that bc he got Forbes is ????
    This is ridiculous. Dude volunteers to train with and play for JVG on the national team for a total of two weeks that ends a week before training camp and you're taking it as a sign Pop doesn't want him in the rotation.

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    no, taking it as a sign that he's not a given in the rotation, thus expendable. If he were to need to miss time, it would be no biggie.

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    no, taking it as a sign that he's not a given in the rotation, thus expendable. If he were to need to miss time, it would be no biggie.
    Equally ridiculous.

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    I'm in the camp this will be good for Derrick White. Now that I know his commitment is over 1 week before training camp, this seems like the best way to be ready for training camp. He will be in better game ready mode by training camp and should compete for a spot in the rotation which is what training camp and preseason is for. Incredible opportunity to play intense games with JVG coaching.

    Not to mention if he impresses the coaches on opportunities like this his name may come up more often in the future for even bigger tournaments. Hopefully things go smooth li y and his game and confidence grows from this experience.

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    Equally ridiculous.

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    This is ridiculous. Dude volunteers to train with and play for JVG on the national team for a total of two weeks that ends a week before training camp and you're taking it as a sign Pop doesn't want him in the rotation.
    So no one "better" than White volunteered? No American star decided two games were worth playing even though the US still needs to qualify for the World Cup? That doesn't make a ton of sense.

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    Yes, the drama queening over two weeks of a 24 year old's summer is silly.

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    So no one "better" than White volunteered? No American star decided two games were worth playing even though the US still needs to qualify for the World Cup? That doesn't make a ton of sense.
    I smell Pop putting Derrick's name in the pot because of the great opportunity for him. Derrick White is fighting for playing time wherever he goes. I guess you guys have a different outlook for Derrick or have an unrealistic expectation that Derrick White should be considered some tenured NBA player. He's going to have to have. A blue collar work ethic to stay in the NBA period. No illusions. He's not a made super star.

    They could also be confident in there team especially with Derrick White in the lineup.

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    So no one "better" than White volunteered? No American star decided two games were worth playing even though the US still needs to qualify for the World Cup? That doesn't make a ton of sense.
    So what does make sense to you is that White won't be a rotation player because he's playing two games in September.

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    So what does make sense to you is that White won't be a rotation player because he's playing two games in September.
    Who do you think will be in the rotation, White or Forbes?

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    Who do you think will be in the rotation, White or Forbes?
    Don't know.

    Barring some injury, the next three days will not determine that IMO.

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    Don't know.

    Barring some injury, the next three days will not determine that IMO.
    So, all this time when you were saying "relax, White will play" you weren't saying that because you thought White would be a rotation player, but just because, with all the resting and possible injuries, he would eventually get playing time in some parts of the season?

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    So, all this time when you were saying "relax, White will play" you weren't saying that because you thought White would be a rotation player, but just because, with all the resting and possible injuries, he would eventually get playing time in some parts of the season?
    I don't know for sure, I think he will be a rotation player. Over Forbes? Who's to say they can't both play?

    I think his participation in two games has zero to do with the decision and people who do are being silly.

    Relax, White will play.

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    Who do you think will be in the rotation, White or Forbes?
    Both. White is a better PG. Forbes is a better shooter.

    To be honest, Forbes played 80 games last year and started in 12. So PATFO is already sold on him to play in the rotation.

    The most natural point guard on the team is White. Murray be the designated PG, but until he lowers his dribble and can shoot, there will be opportunity for White.

    Last year Spurs had Parker, Ginobilli and even Anderson to play PG duties. None of them are back.

    It's sink or swim, Murray, White or Forbes will need to learn how to play the position.

    I recall Parker in one of his tweets saying that this is White's opportunity to step up.

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    So what does make sense to you is that White won't be a rotation player because he's playing two games in September.
    You could try answering questions instead of making dump assumptions.

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    White will be behind Forbes to start the season because Forbes was here first. "It wouldn't be fair to others, blah, blah" and all that.

    White will probably surpass Forbes in the rotation relatively soon considering Forbes is complete dog , but the initial rotation is not some big mystery. We know how Pop works, people. Classic Spurstalk overanalysis indeed.

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    I don't know for sure, I think he will be a rotation player. Over Forbes? Who's to say they can't both play?
    The unnecessary Belli signing.

    I think his participation in two games has zero to do with the decision and people who do are being silly.
    I agree.

    Relax, White will play.
    You know or not. Make up your mind, tbh.

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