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    I can’t even think what’s a lower bar than killing an innocent person in their own home, without even a dangerous episode going around. That goes not just to laws, but even cons utional protections.
    Killing an innocent person in their own home, without even a dangerous episode going around, and then releasing to the media that you found pot in his apartment.

    Wonder what other private and irrelevant information is going to be leaked out about this innocent dead man.

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    I don't even know how the pot revelation helps the narrative, considering the lady's story is that she accidently ended up at his place and fully acknowledged she killed him over a 'mistake'. Pigs are amazing.

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    It’s not an issue of giving LE some leeway, it’s where do you draw the line.

    In a perfect world, every American should look exactly the same under the law. If somebody kills another person, it shouldn’t matter what’s your job description.

    But we know we’re not in a perfect world, and LE will get some leeway, the question is where do you draw the line?

    I can’t even think what’s a lower bar than killing an innocent person in their own home, without even a dangerous episode going around. That goes not just to laws, but even cons utional protections.

    Whether it wasn’t intentional or she’s really sorry about it shouldn’t preclude from applying the full extent of the law.
    What is clearly part of the reason this has gained so much traction is the poor guy was black. And the cop/perp is white. Did she know he was black? What if he was white, would it have gained this inertia? I don’t think so. Why did this gain traction? Because it looks like it’s a persistent problem. From my personal experience I absolutely don’t doubt that the SA police force, on the whole treats color differently.

    So another issue is not only what we as a society want from cops (and therefore procedures that are consistent what we want), but transparency and data. The CDC has mounds of data on child abuse. Mountains. We know so much more about this issue than ever before. Uncle Cletus is gonna actually be a suspect now. He will be questioned. Stranger danger is a tiny fraction of child sexual abuse. We know this from analysis of stats, court cases....
    We really don’t know a damn thing about incidents with cops and the public that involve guns. There are independent groups who TRY and follow this closely, but the organizations that can give you the best answers are only funded for only certain public health issues. This is a travesty imo.

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    It’s not an issue of giving LE some leeway, it’s where do you draw the line.

    In a perfect world, every American should look exactly the same under the law. If somebody kills another person, it shouldn’t matter what’s your job description.

    But we know we’re not in a perfect world, and LE will get some leeway, the question is where do you draw the line?

    I can’t even think what’s a lower bar than killing an innocent person in their own home, without even a dangerous episode going around. That goes not just to laws, but even cons utional protections.

    Whether it wasn’t intentional or she’s really sorry about it shouldn’t preclude from applying the full extent of the law.
    Dallas County just put away a cop for 15 years for killing a black kid on duty. It's the city this time but it's not the most favorable area for her to get a trial. Watch it get moved to the sticks.

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    Btw...

    Good data can also protect the innocent cop or day care worker.
    Imo each side gets stimulated by cell phone videos etc...showing/printing incidents intended to incite anger with no sense of proportionality. Each side of the issue can find their vid/article and go viral with it to make it the norm.

    This board excels at this tactic.

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    Can't trust police to investigate their own. It wouldn't surprise me if the weed was planted.

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    Okay then...

    Lets get that good cop recruiting program in full swing.

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    Okay then...

    Lets get that good cop recruiting program in full swing.
    NRA Pres ex-con Oliver North said a long time ago, 20, 30 years on radio?, that citizens should aim for the neck and head when the cops come wearing body armor.

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    NRA Pres ex-con Oliver North said a long time ago, 20, 30 years on radio?, that citizens should aim for the neck and head when the cops come wearing body armor.
    This is a job that, imo, requires individuals who are good with people. It also requires the officer having very tough skin, especially when anyone in a crowd can yell anything they want at you. You must have enough self confidence in realizing they may not hate you as an individual. And silence, or actually explaining what you as Peace Officers intend to do to diffuse a situation peacefully. Including finding a vocal leader in a situation and possibly acquiescening to their plan on diffusing situations. This has become an extremely dangerous and difficult job.

    So, thanks Oliver. It’s gonna be really tough to recruit Peace Officers, if this is what society wants out of the job.

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    This case is all kinds of crazy and all kinds of unusual. I mean, how does she not know where her apartment is? It's sad that someone dies in this scenario. I hope it's not because he played his music too loud for her liking.

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    This case is all kinds of crazy and all kinds of unusual. I mean, how does she not know where her apartment is? It's sad that someone dies in this scenario. I hope it's not because he played his music too loud for her liking.
    She was relatively new and tried to get in the apartment vertical with her own. Maybe a little booze after a tough nite. I could have made this mistake. But I have an incredibly bad sense of direction. She parked on the exactly the wrong floor as well. I’m in on that as well.

    The wrong floor and apt. is not as mysterious as what went down at the door. I think it’s fairly clear she got the wrong apartment on accident.

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    She was relatively new and tried to get in the apartment vertical with her own. Maybe a little booze after a tough nite. I could have made this mistake. But I have an incredibly bad sense of direction. She parked on the exactly the wrong floor as well. I’m in on that as well.

    The wrong floor and apt. is not as mysterious as what went down at the door. I think it’s fairly clear she got the wrong apartment on accident.
    Anyone can make that mistake in an apartment complex where the doors and upper floors all look similar.

    The problem is why she opened fire instead of getting out of there and calling 911

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    Can't trust police to investigate their own. It wouldn't surprise me if the weed was planted.
    The weed is pretty irrelevant in this case. Someone just took an inventory and reported it. No reason to run with it and think something ominous.
    She will be prosecuted fully and will pay for what she did.
    The weed is not being used in any way at this moment.

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    Anyone can make that mistake in an apartment complex where the doors and upper floors all look similar.

    The problem is why she opened fire instead of getting out of there and calling 911
    easy. wants to avoid the situation at 1:41


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    Anyone can make that mistake in an apartment complex where the doors and upper floors all look similar.

    The problem is why she opened fire instead of getting out of there and calling 911
    Someone reported a female voice saying "let me in" -
    Maybe she did think it was her apt so she tried to get in and arrest the "burglar" in her mind - until she realized she ed up and entered his place.
    She can't get off - she clearly made a huge mistake.


    She was a cop - she would not call 911- she would just handle the ongoing crime herself. Except her mistake ends up being the actual crime.

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    that should be in prison already or have the same done to her. lights out!

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    that should be in prison already or have the same done to her. lights out!
    Didn't you just post else where that people are wrong to rush to judgement of Kavanaugh?



    Must be that big (R) next to Kavanaughs name?

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    Didn't you just post else where that people are wrong to rush to judgement of Kavanaugh?



    Must be that big (R) next to Kavanaughs name?
    i don't care if SpecialK is a republican or not. and it's a totally different situation. that went into that man's apartment and killed him in cold blood. totally different than being accused of a crime 40+ yrs later without proof.

    you run on your feelings and get your directives from the left. your type sickens me.

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    i don't care if SpecialK is a republican or not. and it's a totally different situation. that went into that man's apartment and killed him in cold blood. totally different than being accused of a crime 40+ yrs later without proof.

    you run on your feelings and get your directives from the left. your type sickens me.
    This is priceless!

    Judge attempts a sexual assault. "is was 40 years ago/irrelevant"
    Cop s up - will probably be imprisoned for her up. "rape the now-lock her up"

    lolol

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    that should be in prison already or have the same done to her. lights out!


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    This is priceless!

    Judge attempts a sexual assault. "is was 40 years ago/irrelevant"

    Cop s up - will probably be imprisoned for her up. "rape the now-lock her up"

    lolol
    you claim SpecialK attempted a sexual assault as if you're judge and jury or have actual proof to convict him. if you do, come forward and help!

    as for the lady cop. i never advocated raping her. i think a life sentence behind bars or a quick death by lethal injection would suffice too. answer this, how many times have you mistaken your home/apt/condo, gotten inside, and drew your weapon and killed a man in cold blood while playing dumb? yeah, sounds like it was all just some accident.

    you're a special type of dumb.

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    you claim SpecialK attempted a sexual assault as if you're judge and jury or have actual proof to convict him. if you do, come forward and help!

    as for the lady cop. i never advocated raping her. i think a life sentence behind bars or a quick death by lethal injection would suffice too. answer this, how many times have you mistaken your home/apt/condo, gotten inside, and drew your weapon and killed a man in cold blood while playing dumb? yeah, sounds like it was all just some accident.

    you're a special type of dumb.

    Really?

    that should be in prison already or have the same done to her. lights out!







    I said a few times "if this is proven" it is a crime.

    I also think the cop should be imprisoned - but it isn't murder - probably manslaughter - but I am pretty sure she cannot get out of jailtime.
    My hope is that she just pleads guilty of ing up and making a horrible mistake with deadly consequences.



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    This is priceless!

    Judge attempts a sexual assault. "is was 40 years ago/irrelevant"
    Cop s up - will probably be imprisoned for her up. "rape the now-lock her up"

    lolol
    It's kw shooting par on double standards

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    It's kw shooting par on double standards

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