Dallas cop fearing for her life shoots scary black man in apartment

[SpursforSix]

making more excuses for a murderer. it's all good.

I’m not making excuses got. Just correcting someone misstating the facts.

[Winehole23]

possible motive: Botham Jean was too noisy.

Merritt said that typically he can come up with some kind of theory about what happened in the cases he works, but in this situation he really doesn’t have a theory about what happened. And the only connections he can find between the two are a series of noise complaints.

Apparently, one of those complaints was made on the day that Jean was shot.

Merritt told CNN: “There were noise complaints from the immediate downstairs neighbors about whoever was upstairs, and that would have been Botham. In fact, there was a noise complaint that very day about upstairs activity in Botham’s apartment. Botham received a phone call about noise coming from his apartment from the downstairs neighbor.”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/amber...se-complaints/

[Winehole23]

pure scuttlebutt, no corroboration here, but scandalous if true. Mr. Kingston is a Dallas City Councilman.

[Winehole23]

Guyger surrendered to Kaufman County (wait, wut?)

Dallas County District Attorney Faith Johnson was tight-lipped Monday morning about the facts of Thursday night's shooting at Jean's apartment at the South Side Flats in the Cedars, saying she wanted to make sure the case could stay in Dallas County.

"If the people of Dallas County have already made up their minds based on what they heard, it'll be very hard to get a fair jury," Johnson said at a news conference.

http://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-...-jean-shooting

[Winehole23]

Kaufman County is 83% white.

[Winehole23]

yes, that Barrett Brown:

[Winehole23]

Le Brocq noted the interesting and atypical choice of language used to describe Jean in the affidavit. “The individual the officer killed is referred to as ‘complainant’ when often times it is the ‘victim’ and reading it, I would think it was drafted by a defense attorney,”

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...rest-do ent/

[Winehole23]

having punted almost immediately to the Texas Rangers, Dallas PD can now blame them for any subsequent investigative improprieties.

[Winehole23]

search warrant and arrest warrant do not agree as to facts. it's a ing mess.

[ElNono]

Jean wasn't in the wrong apartment, but he was in the wrong State, tbh...

[Winehole23]

Dallas has just wasted any bona fides gained through the successful prosecution of the cop who killed Jordan Edwards, if it soft pedals this one.

[Winehole23]

Jean wasn't in the wrong apartment, but he was in the wrong State, tbh...

ouch.

hurts cause it's true.

[Winehole23]

Daily Caller blames the media and race-baiting complainers, and solicits empathy for the 30 year old shooter. They might as well have blamed Botham Jean for turning up his stereo too loud.

Early reporting indicates the young officer had just left a 15-hour work day. Fatigue impacting her judgment and perception could prove a pivotal factor in the incident.


If the fatigue of a single or back-to-back overtime shifts, rather than race or inexperience or drugs or alcohol, proves to be a probable cause of Officer Guyger’s fatal misjudgment, municipalities across the country better be paying attention.


Police understaffing, exacerbated by retirement-eligible officers rushing to the exits, mainstream and social media negativity toward the profession and the concomitant dwindling recruitment pools that are being reported across the country have added stress to often stretched police forces.


The inevitable result is that the remaining workforce will face mandatory overtime shifts, canceled vacation days and less and less time to rest or decompress from already demanding work shifts.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/15/w...ned-in-dallas/

[Winehole23]

Botham Jean was shot on September 7th.

The warrant was signed and returned on Friday.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ne...493339131.html

[TDMVPDPOY]

so from the start of this case till the present...wtf are those BLM movement? why arent they using those funds they raise to help fight win this case????

[Spurs Homer]

Daily Caller blames the media and race-baiting complainers, and solicits empathy for the 30 year old shooter. They might as well have blamed Botham Jean for turning up his stereo too loud.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/15/w...ned-in-dallas/

The OT thing is why I stated earlier - that for her own sake - she should just throw herself at the mercy of the court, plead guilty, and apologize to the family for ing up, and taking her punishment for her mistake. She can say she was forced to work OT - because this is actually happening all over the country. Won't save her completely, but it is better than making up a bogus "fear for my life" story.

[Winehole23]

Guyger won't plead guilty to murder.

[Spurs Homer]

Guyger won't plead guilty to murder.

She didn't commit murder - from initial reports. She made a colossal blunder and then shot him in a panic.
Manslaughter appears to be her charge.
So far.

[Winehole23]

you're going on the arrest warrant written "as if" from her own point of view and accepting the tale told there as factual.

whether or not Guyger blundered and panicked is for a jury to decide.

[Winehole23]

btw, one of the rumored reasons Dallas PD punted to the Texas Rangers was that they couldn't find a judge to approve manslaughter charges -- because that wasn't the crime described.

so, maybe it's not so cut and dried as you think, SH.

[Winehole23]

are you an LEO, Spurs Homer?

or just biased in favor of the police?

[Winehole23]

coming to factual conclusions before there has even been an investigation?

[ElNono]

She didn't commit murder - from initial reports. She made a colossal blunder and then shot him in a panic.
Manslaughter appears to be her charge.
So far.

That's debatable, regardless of what the initial charge is. Intentionally shooting another person, regardless if her panic was a mistake or not, normally falls in the realm of murder, not manslaughter. It goes to intent: this wasn't a stray bullet or a warning shot gone bad, it was shoot to kill.

[Spurs Homer]

btw, one of the rumored reasons Dallas PD punted to the Texas Rangers was that they couldn't find a judge to approve manslaughter charges -- because that wasn't the crime described.

so, maybe it's not so cut an dried as you think, SH.

I agree - and did not mean to imply - her story was a fact. I meant it as - so far- this is the story until the investigation concludes.

Who knows - she could be a murderer. I do think - right now - it points to Manslaughter but let us see if her story holds up.

[Spurs Homer]

That's debatable, regardless of what the initial charge is. Intentionally shooting another person, regardless if her panic was a mistake or not, normally falls in the realm of murder, not manslaughter. It goes to intent: this wasn't a stray bullet or a warning shot gone bad, it was shoot to kill.

I doubt that.
It cannot be murder under those cir stances reported. It could be murder - if her story is a complete fabrication and another story emerges but we don't know. If her story holds- she will say she was - at this point - under the assumption that this was her apt and that there was an ongoing burglary and she reacted like any cop would - ordered the burglar to freeze and he didn't so she shot him. Manslaughter.

Murder would be way different.