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    why is Ryan retiring?
    Accepted and disbursed Russian funds throughout the GOP.

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    you seem fairly certain. what has you convinced?

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    Yeah, but them uppity colored folk can run track better than ol Bone spurs ever could.
    Obama might have read and run better than any of Avante’s friends, even while smoking and shooting hoops.

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    you seem fairly certain. what has you convinced?
    twitter drivel...

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    it's amazing how people fall for anything that's printed anywhere, so long as it flatters what they already believe.

    I guess that's sort of the genius of the internet: stovepiped, individually tailored content.

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    you seem fairly certain. what has you convinced?
    The way the entire GOP conducted a sham investigation - defending Trumps team, blocking subpoenas, attacking the FBI, etc.
    Also the NRA and all the money they funneled from Russia to the GOP and made sure the origin of where the funds came from was hidden. Finally - Ryan - and that mtg that he was overheard shutting up Kevin McCarthy after McCarthy said that Putin pays Trump and Rohrbacher - and Ryan shut them up and swore them to secrecy - here is the gist of it;

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.20df8ad722ae

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    you're pretty gullible if you take a bull session like that as evidence Ryan is compromised.

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    There's something extremely weird, suspect, going back to Obama's years, about so many Repugs and rightwingnutjobs like so-called sheriff Clarke, AND Christian Taliban, adoring Pootin and 4th rate Russia.

    And now we hear the NRA was laundering Russian $Ms.

    Ryan must have known that Russian $100Ms were pouring into Repugs and Trash. He's Catholic s bag.

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    you seem fairly certain. what has you convinced?
    A 48 year old Speaker of the House retiring. Because that’s normal right?

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    it's amazing how people fall for anything that's printed anywhere, so long as it flatters what they already believe.

    I guess that's sort of the genius of the internet: stovepiped, individually tailored content.
    Pretty sure I called the NRA Russian ties out before anyone in the media. Funny how that’s all coming out. Also sure I noted which Trump campaign members were intially gonna be legally ed first.
    I understand why you are bitter. You generally have no ing clue of what’s going on and I get that. But you do have a few options. You really don’t have to read my threads. You complain about drivel, yet you keep coming to read my threads that’s got half a million views, with multiple indictments plea deals and Russian links everywhere. You complain about it but can’t stay away. You come to me for news and that’s okay baby boy. Now go sit in your corner and cry some more. Maybe when this is over I’ll allow you to get on your knees and beg for forgiveness. That’s the least I can do for you.
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    don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back

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    you're pretty gullible if you take a bull session like that as evidence Ryan is compromised.
    That is just SOME of the reasons. Look at Ryan approving of Nunes' obstruction - that is the biggest proof there is - Nunes basically took it upon himself to trash the investigation into Trump/Russia - but Nunes could not have done anything without Ryan allowing him to.

    If you refuse to see that - then you are just refusing to see evidence in open sight/public availability.

    Gullible - is believing a word that comes out of the biggest liar in the world.

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    you're pretty gullible if you take a bull session like that as evidence Ryan is compromised.
    Ryan doesn't need to be compromised to be as guilty as the lot.

    He's more than happy to allow his own house members do as they please. Nunes for example being the more egregious one.

    In reality Nunes should have been removed from his post but since he's Ryan's boy he gets to break the rules most so than others.

    BTW, most of the GOP is compromised one way or the other. One obvious en y that owns the GOP being the NRA.

    They have them hostage. Now Trump has them hostage along with the NRA.

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    Woke this morning and thanked the lord for another day and thanked him for Mueller.

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    That is just SOME of the reasons. Look at Ryan approving of Nunes' obstruction - that is the biggest proof there is - Nunes basically took it upon himself to trash the investigation into Trump/Russia - but Nunes could not have done anything without Ryan allowing him to.
    explain how Ryan can prevent the HPSCI from doing whatever it chooses to do.

    If you refuse to see that - then you are just refusing to see evidence in open sight/public availability.

    Gullible - is believing a word that comes out of the biggest liar in the world.
    not drawing evidentiary conclusions from a jocular private conversation is not equivalent to buying DJT's word about it.

    that you've already arrived at what you think are legally sufficient conclusions before the evidence has been examined by a competent tribunal is not proof that anyone else is dim -- it just means you've prejudged the situation.

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    there's no doubt in my mind that DJT is a liar and a crook and the most deeply compromised president in my own lifetime and perhaps ever.

    but that doesn't mean I'll buy whatever lefty rage-twitter and bulletin board whiners throw on the wall.

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    Ryan doesn't need to be compromised to be as guilty as the lot.

    He's more than happy to allow his own house members do as they please. Nunes for example being the more egregious one.

    In reality Nunes should have been removed from his post but since he's Ryan's boy he gets to break the rules most so than others.
    so then, Paul Ryan's failure to discipline rule-breaking committee members amounts to obstruction of justice? seems a bit a of a reach.

    what rules did Nunes break?

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    explain how Ryan can prevent the HPSCI from doing whatever it chooses to do.

    not drawing evidentiary conclusions from a jocular private conversation is not equivalent to buying DJT's word about it.

    that you've already arrived at what you think are legally sufficient conclusions before the evidence has been examined by a competent tribunal is not proof that anyone else is dim -- it just means you've prejudged the situation.
    Ryan either could have approved or disapproved when a subpoena was issued for a witness or a do ent. Democrats have repeatedly stated that they begged the majority to call back witnesses who refused to answer questions without any legal reason. Dems asked for subpoenas to require witnesses to turn over do ents, emails, etc - but were turned down. Then - after a sham investigation - they ended it and declared "no collusion."

    The other committee is only slightly better with another Repug in charge.

    There is no pre-judging - I am mainly pointing out public evidence. All of Muellers results are more than enough to see that this is nothing more than a criminal enterprise occupying the white house. That is just going on what is publicly available.

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    The committees were unfair and partisan, true.

    Hate to break it to you, but that's how Congressional committees work. They're composed of politicians from one of two parties.

    Congressional committees are not judicial bodies. They're political ones.

    If they do wrong (short of demonstrable criminality) they are accountable to the voters.

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    so then, Paul Ryan's failure to discipline rule-breaking committee members amounts to obstruction of justice? seems a bit a of a reach.

    what rules did Nunes break?
    Ryan could have and should have told Nunes to recuse himself first of all. Nunes was in the Trump campaign. Second he should have refused to allow any of those fishing expeditions that Nunes, Jordan, McCarthy, DeSantis, Gaetz,etc - were conducting. Attack the FBI, fish for texts until they exposed some, run to FOX news and begin spinning their conspiracy theories.
    Ryan could have done his job and just said - "allow the FBI to do its job and let the truth set Trump free if he is indeed innocent."

    Actually, Nunes sham-recused himself because he ran to the white house to warn Trump and handed over materials which were damaging to Trump. Then after he sham-recused - he continued to obstruct the investigation with his ridiculous memo-gate charade. Ryan just allowed all this to happen.
    Rosenstein went to Ryan and told him that his henchmen were trying to extract do ents from the investigation. Rosenstein explained that for a hundred years - the FBI policy is to never release materials of an ongoing investigation because of "sources & methods", "classified info" etc..

    But Ryan instead - said - no. He said he would allow his henchmen to continue to obstruct and continue to release info from an ongoing investigation. He told Rosenstein that "sunlight is the best disinfectant"
    Really?

    Then why did Ryan refuse when he was presented a bill by Democrats to compel Trump to release his income taxes?
    I guess - not THAT much sunlight lol.

    Rosenstein - so far - has tried to carefully comply - while under the gun from a rogue, criminal president and his complicit henchmen - and Ryan - who allows them to run amok and obsruct the ongoing investigation.

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    that Paul Ryan was unwilling to remedy the unfairness of the work of committees benefiting his majority does not make him a criminal, it makes him a politician.

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    that said, maybe djohn is right. maybe evidence that Paul Ryan spread around Russian campaign cash will come to light. it hasn't yet.

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    Actually, Nunes sham-recused himself because he ran to the white house to warn Trump and handed over materials which were damaging to Trump. Then after he sham-recused - he continued to obstruct the investigation with his ridiculous memo-gate charade. Ryan just allowed all this to happen.
    shady af. I agree.

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